#character-workshop

[ka-devlog]

Character Workshop 26/06/2016

Overview:

We talked about integrating powers into the day to day roleplay at Kokoro and a few key decisions were made

Powers will not be innate but only gained at the school

We will put together some ‘magic physics’ so as to give magic more meaning, more lore, make it studyable and help balance it into the slice of life school roleplay

Reisen decided to form a ‘magic commitee’ who will be working out the magic physics, this is formed of Viya and Clover as they both seemed to be into that

Transcript:

[12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, lets start the workshop shall we o3o [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, last meeting, for those who weren't there or need reminding [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): but Reisen [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am right here [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): basically, we were talking about powers at Kokoro, and trying to integrate them whilst keeping the slice of life environment [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): now about half of the circle here today was with me earlier and I know pretty well that those people would rather there not be powers at all, so we have a interesting mixture and I'm in the hot seat of it all x3c [12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): there her is [12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): *he [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): What I think I will do is take the wheel as need be here, and to keep the meetings consistent, we will talk about trialing powers, as there are also people in this room who are for them. So, today's meeting  will be discussing how powers work, whether they are innate or not, etc, given the context that we're avoiding using powers for conflict in day to day school life, and assuming we want to keep conflict to specialized events for those people [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So why don't we start with a basic question - given the context of what we're trialing, should powers be an innate thing - Ie, can we have kitsune godesses and 'chosen ones' etc, or are the powers gained at the school? [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Do we have to raise our hands? [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that would be best [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Powers should be gained at the school. [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Why do you think they should be gained at the school? [12:10] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Because if people come in being 300 year old animal gods it hinders true character development. I believe if you want to RP you can have a model for yourself, but coming into Kokoro you need to be a blank sheet. You find your characters strengths, quirks, and weaknesses as you play them. Again, having a general outline is fine. But you shoudl refine it here. [12:11] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Weaknesses make the character. Not powers. [12:11] BrainBaffled: ^ [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that's a pretty interesting view and pretty agreeable too. Would anyone else like to add anything to that? In agreement? disagreement? [12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Minty? [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is a very good point because it adds to the fact that this is a school. You can come to a school with a gift, but you don't exactly have honed any of your skills usually [12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): When you say a 'gift' [12:13] RoyallyJinxed: harry potter (≧ω≦) [12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): this implies that people -do- come to school with a power? [12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No what I meant is... They come here because they can learn magic here. [12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if we go that route [12:14] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:15] BrainBaffled: I think that there shouldn't be special classes for powers though, it would have to be someone discovered here on his/her own [12:15] BrainBaffled: and perhaps developed here as they learn how to deal with it [12:16] BrainBaffled: but if u make a magic class everyone will want powers from the start [12:16] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): That is true... [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: "Nyaa~? What is a sudden multipowerful teenage kitsune goddess to doooo~?" [12:17] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Get nerfed [12:17] BrainBaffled: he goes to Hentai high [12:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): shh [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: xD [12:17] Clover (sarria.yaffle) hand [12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3c That is a pretty interesting perspective, if I can say something myself, it actually surprises me, because, from my point of view if peoples powers were non-innate, they were going to learn them at the school, it just seemed logical to me.. I'm not sure how people would 'discover their powers at Kokoro, though? [12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover? [12:19] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Perhaps if there is a magic class it can be along the lines of a physics or chemistry class rather than "a practical course of throwing fireworks around" [12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf) raises a hand [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hm, so is Clover implying that, magic would have requirements to create effects etc? ie, there are certain formula's and rules to follow to achieve results? [12:21] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((I'll get to the hand raisers, just curious to see what Clover has to say)) [12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): yeah, magic shoulodnt be something whetre you can just go "i grunt a bit and throw a fireball" it should have it's own kind of physics to it [12:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler) likes that idea [12:22] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Same! Its really cool. [12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and a magic class, rather than being a class about casting spells specifically, could be a class about those magical physics [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I personally think that would be a very good idea, and it sort of helps the lore along in a reason why there might not be magic conflicts with kitsune gods and fireball throwing people all the time in a reasonably explained way x3 [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Vincent? [12:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Never mind, people are turning into a proper direction again [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): however, one thing is that we have different races...some might have innate abilities others couldj learn such practices. Thats all [12:26] BrainBaffled: I suggest magic the wrong use of magic to be an offence, the magic physics class idea is alot better then just teaching people how to shoot lasers, perhaps though the magic users could have an underground club or something where they practice on their own, that way it doesn't have to be official but can still be practiced and non magic users don't have to go into the subject at all [12:28] Reisen (extrude.ragu): The sort of vibe I'm personally feeling from all of this, is that perhaps a makeshift 'institute of magic' could be useful, in the sense of, coming up with the 'physics' behind the magic, and what the wrong and right uses of magic are [12:29] RoyallyJinxed: hogwarts [12:29] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦) [12:29] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^ [12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i could help with that :3 [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen feels that for example, someone like Clover would thrive in something like this, as Clover is really into her magic and would be able to come up with a fun system with some people? [12:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): o3o [12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im the kind of person who loves reading into how magic actually works in the lore of fantasy universes and stuff [12:30] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I could work on somethingf like that sure [12:30] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) raises her hand [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Bunnerz? :3 [12:31] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): I really kinda like what Jinxy said, it may be a little easier to pull influence from Hogwarts, when classes come into play, like potion, and defense against the arts. o3o [12:31] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand [12:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle) handsup as well [12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest~ [12:32] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We also need to discuss natural "power" training. Physical strength ,physical speed, martial arts experience, and technology. Not everyone will use magic. [12:33] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is true, those should be things we discuss, and I'm going to write them down so I don't forget, but I think we have really got a ball rolling with the magic physics stuff here so we should stick with that for now :3 [12:34] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Fair. [12:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover? [12:35] Clover (sarria.yaffle): When it comes to bunnerz's comment, I don't think we should look at something like hogwarts too much, we don't really need a bunch of different specific classes on different aspects of magic, as, from the vibe I've gotten, this is a school that happens to have magic as an elective course, rather than a School of Magic [12:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): specific courses are something that you'd go to a trade school for [12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) Raises hand [12:36] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is fair, as we do have a broad range of subjects to teach, but I think there are some things to be learnt from the success of Hogwarts and why it had such fanfare, and I don't think there is too much shame in taking some inspiration from idea's we feel can help with the school [12:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Well it's more that i just dont think magic should be such a huge focus that there's a whole bunch of specific classes dedicated to different smaller aspects of it XD [12:38] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): -raises hand- [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty? [12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we shouldn't overcomplicate things too. I think a few dedicated class and clubs will be fine, but we don't need to go all out on the types. What I am trying to say I guess is that maybe looking at how hogwarts does it is fine, but lifting it 1:1 would not be a very good plan. I also don't think there needs to be a dedicated council to look out for magic abuse? Seems like it'd be easy enough to set up rules like any other for it and treat it as that kind of offense [12:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My view is that, having an institute of magic kind of helps to make it fun, and gives it a little bit of validation and helps the story along for those people, ofcourse, we run the risk of it becoming too much the focus of the school, but I feel there might be more harm in leaving it too loose and without story than proving too much story and background to it personally [12:42] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand [12:45] BrainBaffled: Right, so to cover that part even further, i'm all for limiting powers and having specific ones on a board or something like that, people who want powers can pick just one from those so that we don't end up with kitsune etc. one class should be enough to focus on powers for the people that are into it, but it should indeed not take over the whole school. [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((Nobody else raise hand after this now, I'd like to say some stuff myself and make a proposal)) [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, bunnerz? [12:46] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): by taking influence from hogwarts, i didnt mean pulling every class and teaching it here, i meant for those who teach the magic could maybe use the spells and charms from the Harry potter series because, like Rei-pyon said, the fandom is big, and the spells would be widely know, and easier to remember, and you would have recipies (which im sure can be found on google) for potions, and have a type of cirriculum instead of having to come up with stuff from scratch? [12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My opinion on it is, we can take inspiration and idea's on how hogwarts came up with their potions etc, but we should not copy their spells, ingrediants etc, we want to create something unique and new, otherwise people might aswell teleport over to that hogwarts sim that's also in secondlife x3c [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty o3o [12:48] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): fair enough. [12:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah I think it's important to be your own thing. But that's not what I wanted to talk about. Regarding this magic council, I am not sure what their job would be however? Just a group of hall monitors that happen to be also good at using magic? I don't know what you imagine under this group of people [12:51] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Right, I think that the main purpose would be figuring out the physics behind the potions and what the rules of magic are etc are, I don't expect the council would have much workload on a day to day basis other than perhaps planning out and running the magic classes and magic events [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, finally, Viya [12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): so its more of a ooc group that sets everything up? [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu) (( ^ a mix)) [12:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i was just gonna ask if something like alchemy is tied up as "magic" or if its like, something in between magic and technology and is its own thing? by alchemy i mean dealing with elements and stuff, not potion making [12:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I think unless we're going way far into the magic side of things, that would just be chemistry o3o [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think this would be something discussed amongst the magic council, right? [12:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Perhaps magic should be more originated spiritually, then physics/chemical [12:54] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds like it [12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think science would be exactly as it is in RL though due to the existence of magic o.O i feel like a chemistry class thats like what we already have in rl would just seem out of place x3 [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay so lemme intervene with everyone here and make a proposal [12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): olkie [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): okie* [12:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Here's what I think should happen: [12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, as we now have a basis for what we're trying to achieve with powers, and a rough idea of how it should be run and managed, we should branch off this magic council/magic institute thing, which should hold it's own meeting and have it's own representatives, so that the Character Workshop can focus back on slice of life stuff and the workshops themselves [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I propose that, seeing as Clover and Viya are the most into magic and most likely to thrive at this, they will be in charge of the new magic council and running the meetings with us, which we can all attend and be a part of, and that is how the powers trial will continue [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): How does everyone feel about that? [12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand related [12:58] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) gives thumbs up [12:58] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): SeemsGood [12:59] BrainBaffled: so we can discuss something else at these meetings? good :3 [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Viya? [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): should it just focus on magic though? i was thinking could also focus on the level of technology in this school's universe, and how it interacts, or doesnt interact, with the magic side of the world [12:59] BrainBaffled: i still think it should be powers class not magic class [13:00] BrainBaffled: or "power physics" [13:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Are we still split on 3 major races, beastman (furry), humans and nature spirits (fairyies, kitsune, animal ear people)  ? Just asking [13:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to take the wheel here and for now say that it is just for magic, and we can think about powers at a later date as part of the council meetings [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, will Clover be happy with this arrangement? :3 [13:01] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds fine to me o3o [13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): alright, thats all i needed to know x3 im up to task [13:01] Izanami (alexdom.dagostino): clover as magic teacher ! [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Cool so what's gonna happen is [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am not fully on board with this idea [13:02] BrainBaffled: neither am i. [13:02] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): whats the difference between "powers" and "magic" ?! [13:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): in the coming weeks I'll figure out with Clover and Viya when these meetings are gonna run, and I'm going to announce things, and we can continue the magic/powers discussion in those meetings [13:03] Clover (sarria.yaffle): realistically? nothing, just different names for the same underlying thing really I think. just because it's called magic doesnt mean it's nothing but wizardy spellcasting [13:03] Viya (furri.hiereichler): guys its not a class, its a split of function of the character workshop, its an OOC lore development and event organization thing [13:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think there is a very high amount of things really foggy and unclear about this, and it appears like just pushing off the issue to another group of people that is yet again gonna be ran by us and stray people that only show up like once a year? [13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): split off function* [13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): clover and i are stray people? o3o [13:05] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [13:05] RoyallyJinxed: Again I think we're overcomplicating things [13:05] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦) [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to say we'll see how it goes. This is a trial after all [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, to conclude today's meeting, we've got a pretty good basis to start with the potions physics thing, innate powers are not a thing, gained powers are still in question, but we're going to start seperate meetings to continue magic/powers discussion [13:07] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): no innate? ok, everyone is a human again :P [13:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I don't feel like the questions about that new group are really all that concluded yet [13:07] RoyallyJinxed: found the kitsune goddess :3c [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): We will talk about races next workshop meeting I think as that is still also in question [13:08] RoyallyJinxed: I don't understand why they need their own meeting, it's such a small thing to cover [13:08] RoyallyJinxed: over complicating it >.< [13:09] BrainBaffled: still think the voting should be done again [13:09] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^ [13:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): wait..we are gonna discuss races AGAIN?...<.<... [13:09] BrainBaffled: many people joined since that vote was made [13:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): No we're not gonna waste time repeating votes over and over again, we will simply trial it and see how it runs [13:09] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it was a referrendum, not a neverendum [13:10] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i doubt the magic meetings are going to be an every week thing, probably like a monthly thing anyway [13:10] RoyallyJinxed: still [13:10] RoyallyJinxed: it's not like we don't have lots of time in these meetings [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen is going to say for now this meeting is finished, and I look forward to seeing everyone at the first magic committee meeting :3 [13:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): probably just a once or twice thing really, as i'll bang up some lore about just what magic is and get people together to see what they think [13:11] Tsukiomura entered the region (1160.46 m). [13:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, I know that there are a lot of questions on everyones minds, and hopefully over the coming weeks we can sort them out and adress them, but if I do say so myself, personally, I came into this meeting pessimistic, and now I am feeling optimistic :3W

Transcript:

[12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, lets start the workshop shall we o3o

[12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, last meeting, for those who weren't there or need reminding

[12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): but Reisen

[12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am right here

[12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): basically, we were talking about powers at Kokoro, and trying to integrate them whilst keeping the slice of life environment

[12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): now about half of the circle here today was with me earlier and I know pretty well that those people would rather there not be powers at all, so we have a interesting mixture and I'm in the hot seat of it all x3c

[12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): there her is

[12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): *he

[12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): What I think I will do is take the wheel as need be here, and to keep the meetings consistent, we will talk about trialing powers, as there are also people in this room who are for them. So, today's meeting  will be discussing how powers work, whether they are innate or not, etc, given the context that we're avoiding using powers for conflict in day to day school life, and assuming we want to keep conflict to specialized events for those people

[12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So why don't we start with a basic question - given the context of what we're trialing, should powers be an innate thing - Ie, can we have kitsune godesses and 'chosen ones' etc, or are the powers gained at the school?

[12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Do we have to raise our hands?

[12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that would be best

[12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand

[12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest

[12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Powers should be gained at the school.

[12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Why do you think they should be gained at the school?

[12:10] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Because if people come in being 300 year old animal gods it hinders true character development. I believe if you want to RP you can have a model for yourself, but coming into Kokoro you need to be a blank sheet. You find your characters strengths, quirks, and weaknesses as you play them. Again, having a general outline is fine. But you shoudl refine it here.

[12:11] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Weaknesses make the character. Not powers.

[12:11] BrainBaffled: ^

[12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that's a pretty interesting view and pretty agreeable too. Would anyone else like to add anything to that? In agreement? disagreement?

[12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand

[12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Minty?

[12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is a very good point because it adds to the fact that this is a school. You can come to a school with a gift, but you don't exactly have honed any of your skills usually

[12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): When you say a 'gift'

[12:13] RoyallyJinxed: harry potter (≧ω≦)

[12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): this implies that people -do- come to school with a power?

[12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No what I meant is... They come here because they can learn magic here.

[12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if we go that route

[12:14] BrainBaffled: *raises hand*

[12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain?

[12:15] BrainBaffled: I think that there shouldn't be special classes for powers though, it would have to be someone discovered here on his/her own

[12:15] BrainBaffled: and perhaps developed here as they learn how to deal with it

[12:16] BrainBaffled: but if u make a magic class everyone will want powers from the start

[12:16] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): That is true...

[12:17] RoyallyJinxed: "Nyaa~? What is a sudden multipowerful teenage kitsune goddess to doooo~?"

[12:17] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Get nerfed

[12:17] BrainBaffled: he goes to Hentai high

[12:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): shh

[12:17] RoyallyJinxed: xD

[12:17] Clover (sarria.yaffle) hand

[12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3c That is a pretty interesting perspective, if I can say something myself, it actually surprises me, because, from my point of view if peoples powers were non-innate, they were going to learn them at the school, it just seemed logical to me.. I'm not sure how people would 'discover their powers at Kokoro, though?

[12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover?

[12:19] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Perhaps if there is a magic class it can be along the lines of a physics or chemistry class rather than "a practical course of throwing fireworks around"

[12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf) raises a hand

[12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hm, so is Clover implying that, magic would have requirements to create effects etc? ie, there are certain formula's and rules to follow to achieve results?

[12:21] BrainBaffled: *raises hand*

[12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((I'll get to the hand raisers, just curious to see what Clover has to say))

[12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): yeah, magic shoulodnt be something whetre you can just go "i grunt a bit and throw a fireball" it should have it's own kind of physics to it

[12:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler) likes that idea

[12:22] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Same! Its really cool.

[12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and a magic class, rather than being a class about casting spells specifically, could be a class about those magical physics

[12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I personally think that would be a very good idea, and it sort of helps the lore along in a reason why there might not be magic conflicts with kitsune gods and fireball throwing people all the time in a reasonably explained way x3

[12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Vincent?

[12:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Never mind, people are turning into a proper direction again

[12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain?

[12:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): however, one thing is that we have different races...some might have innate abilities others couldj learn such practices. Thats all

[12:26] BrainBaffled: I suggest magic the wrong use of magic to be an offence, the magic physics class idea is alot better then just teaching people how to shoot lasers, perhaps though the magic users could have an underground club or something where they practice on their own, that way it doesn't have to be official but can still be practiced and non magic users don't have to go into the subject at all

[12:28] Reisen (extrude.ragu): The sort of vibe I'm personally feeling from all of this, is that perhaps a makeshift 'institute of magic' could be useful, in the sense of, coming up with the 'physics' behind the magic, and what the wrong and right uses of magic are

[12:29] RoyallyJinxed: hogwarts

[12:29] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦)

[12:29] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^

[12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i could help with that :3

[12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen feels that for example, someone like Clover would thrive in something like this, as Clover is really into her magic and would be able to come up with a fun system with some people?

[12:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): o3o

[12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im the kind of person who loves reading into how magic actually works in the lore of fantasy universes and stuff

[12:30] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I could work on somethingf like that sure

[12:30] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) raises her hand

[12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Bunnerz? :3

[12:31] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): I really kinda like what Jinxy said, it may be a little easier to pull influence from Hogwarts, when classes come into play, like potion, and defense against the arts. o3o

[12:31] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand

[12:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle) handsup as well

[12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest~

[12:32] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We also need to discuss natural "power" training. Physical strength ,physical speed, martial arts experience, and technology. Not everyone will use magic.

[12:33] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is true, those should be things we discuss, and I'm going to write them down so I don't forget, but I think we have really got a ball rolling with the magic physics stuff here so we should stick with that for now :3

[12:34] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Fair.

[12:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover?

[12:35] Clover (sarria.yaffle): When it comes to bunnerz's comment, I don't think we should look at something like hogwarts too much, we don't really need a bunch of different specific classes on different aspects of magic, as, from the vibe I've gotten, this is a school that happens to have magic as an elective course, rather than a School of Magic

[12:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): specific courses are something that you'd go to a trade school for

[12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) Raises hand

[12:36] BrainBaffled: *raises hand*

[12:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is fair, as we do have a broad range of subjects to teach, but I think there are some things to be learnt from the success of Hogwarts and why it had such fanfare, and I don't think there is too much shame in taking some inspiration from idea's we feel can help with the school

[12:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Well it's more that i just dont think magic should be such a huge focus that there's a whole bunch of specific classes dedicated to different smaller aspects of it XD

[12:38] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): -raises hand-

[12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty?

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we shouldn't overcomplicate things too. I think a few dedicated class and clubs will be fine, but we don't need to go all out on the types. What I am trying to say I guess is that maybe looking at how hogwarts does it is fine, but lifting it 1:1 would not be a very good plan. I also don't think there needs to be a dedicated council to look out for magic abuse? Seems like it'd be easy enough to set up rules like any other for it and treat it as that kind of offense

[12:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My view is that, having an institute of magic kind of helps to make it fun, and gives it a little bit of validation and helps the story along for those people, ofcourse, we run the risk of it becoming too much the focus of the school, but I feel there might be more harm in leaving it too loose and without story than proving too much story and background to it personally

[12:42] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand

[12:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain?

[12:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand

[12:45] BrainBaffled: Right, so to cover that part even further, i'm all for limiting powers and having specific ones on a board or something like that, people who want powers can pick just one from those so that we don't end up with kitsune etc. one class should be enough to focus on powers for the people that are into it, but it should indeed not take over the whole school.

[12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((Nobody else raise hand after this now, I'd like to say some stuff myself and make a proposal))

[12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, bunnerz?

[12:46] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): by taking influence from hogwarts, i didnt mean pulling every class and teaching it here, i meant for those who teach the magic could maybe use the spells and charms from the Harry potter series because, like Rei-pyon said, the fandom is big, and the spells would be widely know, and easier to remember, and you would have recipies (which im sure can be found on google) for potions, and have a type of cirriculum instead of having to come up with stuff from scratch?

[12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My opinion on it is, we can take inspiration and idea's on how hogwarts came up with their potions etc, but we should not copy their spells, ingrediants etc, we want to create something unique and new, otherwise people might aswell teleport over to that hogwarts sim that's also in secondlife x3c

[12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty o3o

[12:48] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): fair enough.

[12:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah I think it's important to be your own thing. But that's not what I wanted to talk about. Regarding this magic council, I am not sure what their job would be however? Just a group of hall monitors that happen to be also good at using magic? I don't know what you imagine under this group of people

[12:51] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Right, I think that the main purpose would be figuring out the physics behind the potions and what the rules of magic are etc are, I don't expect the council would have much workload on a day to day basis other than perhaps planning out and running the magic classes and magic events

[12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, finally, Viya

[12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): so its more of a ooc group that sets everything up?

[12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu) (( ^ a mix))

[12:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i was just gonna ask if something like alchemy is tied up as "magic" or if its like, something in between magic and technology and is its own thing? by alchemy i mean dealing with elements and stuff, not potion making

[12:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I think unless we're going way far into the magic side of things, that would just be chemistry o3o

[12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think this would be something discussed amongst the magic council, right?

[12:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Perhaps magic should be more originated spiritually, then physics/chemical

[12:54] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds like it

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think science would be exactly as it is in RL though due to the existence of magic o.O i feel like a chemistry class thats like what we already have in rl would just seem out of place x3

[12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay so lemme intervene with everyone here and make a proposal

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): olkie

[12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): okie*

[12:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Here's what I think should happen:

[12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, as we now have a basis for what we're trying to achieve with powers, and a rough idea of how it should be run and managed, we should branch off this magic council/magic institute thing, which should hold it's own meeting and have it's own representatives, so that the Character Workshop can focus back on slice of life stuff and the workshops themselves

[12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I propose that, seeing as Clover and Viya are the most into magic and most likely to thrive at this, they will be in charge of the new magic council and running the meetings with us, which we can all attend and be a part of, and that is how the powers trial will continue

[12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): How does everyone feel about that?

[12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand related

[12:58] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) gives thumbs up

[12:58] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): SeemsGood

[12:59] BrainBaffled: so we can discuss something else at these meetings? good :3

[12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Viya?

[12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): should it just focus on magic though? i was thinking could also focus on the level of technology in this school's universe, and how it interacts, or doesnt interact, with the magic side of the world

[12:59] BrainBaffled: i still think it should be powers class not magic class

[13:00] BrainBaffled: or "power physics"

[13:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Are we still split on 3 major races, beastman (furry), humans and nature spirits (fairyies, kitsune, animal ear people)  ? Just asking

[13:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to take the wheel here and for now say that it is just for magic, and we can think about powers at a later date as part of the council meetings

[13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, will Clover be happy with this arrangement? :3

[13:01] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds fine to me o3o

[13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): alright, thats all i needed to know x3 im up to task

[13:01] Izanami (alexdom.dagostino): clover as magic teacher !

[13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Cool so what's gonna happen is

[13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am not fully on board with this idea

[13:02] BrainBaffled: neither am i.

[13:02] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): whats the difference between "powers" and "magic" ?!

[13:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): in the coming weeks I'll figure out with Clover and Viya when these meetings are gonna run, and I'm going to announce things, and we can continue the magic/powers discussion in those meetings

[13:03] Clover (sarria.yaffle): realistically? nothing, just different names for the same underlying thing really I think. just because it's called magic doesnt mean it's nothing but wizardy spellcasting

[13:03] Viya (furri.hiereichler): guys its not a class, its a split of function of the character workshop, its an OOC lore development and event organization thing

[13:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think there is a very high amount of things really foggy and unclear about this, and it appears like just pushing off the issue to another group of people that is yet again gonna be ran by us and stray people that only show up like once a year?

[13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): split off function*

[13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): clover and i are stray people? o3o

[13:05] BrainBaffled: *raises hand*

[13:05] RoyallyJinxed: Again I think we're overcomplicating things

[13:05] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦)

[13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to say we'll see how it goes. This is a trial after all

[13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, to conclude today's meeting, we've got a pretty good basis to start with the potions physics thing, innate powers are not a thing, gained powers are still in question, but we're going to start seperate meetings to continue magic/powers discussion

[13:07] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): no innate? ok, everyone is a human again :P

[13:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I don't feel like the questions about that new group are really all that concluded yet

[13:07] RoyallyJinxed: found the kitsune goddess :3c

[13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3

[13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): We will talk about races next workshop meeting I think as that is still also in question

[13:08] RoyallyJinxed: I don't understand why they need their own meeting, it's such a small thing to cover

[13:08] RoyallyJinxed: over complicating it >.<

[13:09] BrainBaffled: still think the voting should be done again

[13:09] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^

[13:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): wait..we are gonna discuss races AGAIN?...<.<...

[13:09] BrainBaffled: many people joined since that vote was made

[13:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): No we're not gonna waste time repeating votes over and over again, we will simply trial it and see how it runs

[13:09] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it was a referrendum, not a neverendum

[13:10] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i doubt the magic meetings are going to be an every week thing, probably like a monthly thing anyway

[13:10] RoyallyJinxed: still

[13:10] RoyallyJinxed: it's not like we don't have lots of time in these meetings

[13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen is going to say for now this meeting is finished, and I look forward to seeing everyone at the first magic committee meeting :3

[13:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): probably just a once or twice thing really, as i'll bang up some lore about just what magic is and get people together to see what they think

[13:11] Tsukiomura entered the region (1160.46 m).

[13:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, I know that there are a lot of questions on everyones minds, and hopefully over the coming weeks we can sort them out and adress them, but if I do say so myself, personally, I came into this meeting pessimistic, and now I am feeling optimistic :3

[ka-devlog]

CW Commitee Meeting 28/5/2016

(Character Workshop Commitee)

Overview

In this meeting the world Kokoro Academy exists in was discussed, and some general idea’s for backstories started to be constructed!

We ended the meeting with some homework - A story about personal growth between two or more people, as to how the school started, to compliment the school’s hearts symbols!

Transcript

[12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Welcome to the first proper RP committee meeting today, I would like to say thank you for attending. As I said earlier, today's points will be the rp background of the school and after perhaps a few logistic questions we can solve.

[12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I believe some of you already prepared a littlebit of reading material on the topic?

[12:02] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Yes. Although I don't know if passing a notecard about would be a thing(?)

[12:03] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I think we could start at the front of the row and work our way down and around

[12:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hehe I think if the notecard is copyable you can hand me a copy and I will pass it out to the others

[12:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): make sure it is transfer too

[12:05] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay everyone should have gotten their copy, or did I miss someone?

[12:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I can see Sable did his homework well, that's a lot of ideas here. I am thinking... Should we discuss these ideas first or would others like to maybe tack their own ideas on and then we discuss them all one after the other?

[12:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Anyone?~

[12:08] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Well, its a list of ideas. But we should start with world-building, i guess so we have a foundation

[12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I like it. lets start there

[12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): So what do you mean by world building?

[12:08] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm okay, can you define what you understand under the term "World building", vincent?

[12:09] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): ah, she appeared

[12:09] Clover (sarria.yaffle): x.x

[12:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): General tech/magic level, possible races, current state of the world (its earth-variant? different world? ), floating island origin?

[12:09] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm so you say we should start and set up the world the story is set in first, got it.

[12:10] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Yeah, then we can grow our stories from

[12:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): wow you came up with a lot of story in 10 minutes x.x

[12:10] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is a good angle to start it from, lets start there if you wish

[12:10] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): unless Reisen has a concept already, and we build from top to bottom...but otheriwse, bottom to top is best then

[12:10] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The way we do this discussion is, we will do it just like the regular meetings, so the discussion does not get too heated and we can let everyone has their word

[12:11] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No I think Reisen is pretty open

[12:11] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): that said, nothing here will be set in stone today, we will run this all by Reisen first :P

[12:11] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Its unfortunate that she can't show up today

[12:11] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I do believe she wanted a warmth, comfortable and classy school right?

[12:11] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Well lets start big and get more detailed. SO lets start with the planet

[12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay I think the planet is just earth. Maybe not our earth, but earth

[12:12] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Variant Earth then...perhaps one where fairy and mankind didnt split up (to explain various animal-ear races, pixies, etc)

[12:13] RoyallyJinxed: #NoGameNoLife

[12:13] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): no game no life is a good thought =.=

[12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah I think the general idea in my eyes would be Earth where stuff happened. Like leaving it a bit foggy in the details to let people come up with their own stories

[12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Maybe you want to be a failed experiment, or a different race

[12:13] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): fwuffy tails

[12:13] Clover (sarria.yaffle): stuff~

[12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): or an alien

[12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): think superhero lore I guess?

[12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Other suggestions?

[12:14] Viya (furri.hiereichler): just finished reading the notecard

[12:14] RoyallyJinxed: Just a school that lingers between worlds which various people from different ones to get to? lol

[12:14] RoyallyJinxed: like the jerry daycare from rick and morty

[12:15] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): thats good~ i think so at least, it explains the fact that were in a giant floating void too

[12:15] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ohh inbetween dimensions

[12:15] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): A general idea Reisen had towards getting here was through an airship

[12:15] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): That might be dangerous ,might lower involvement if you do multiple dimensions

[12:15] RoyallyJinxed: how's that?

[12:15] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Plus some other RP sims already kind of run the multiple dimensions blue print

[12:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm

[12:16] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): if everyone is from a different dimension, only to temporary join the school and return, then most characters wont have any shared world background

[12:16] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): ahh, that's true

[12:16] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): variant earth might be better then

[12:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): That is fair, though I think it is best to keep the details of the world purposefully vague?

[12:16] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): introvert characters might not even want to involve themselves with other dimension characters, cause its just a tempoary meeting

[12:16] Clover (sarria.yaffle): If there's any kind of "alternate world" it should probably be limited to an overlapping fairy world or something

[12:17] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Although you can have exceptions, its best to have a common "Reason" for the variant races...wether fairy world collaspsed into mortal world, or mutations from a magic war., or whatever...this will build consistency and therefor a more believable world

[12:17] Viya (furri.hiereichler): what if theyre from another universe but can no longer return?

[12:18] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is a little dark

[12:18] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): that still kinda throws up the multiverse thing

[12:18] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Thats possible, thats like a planar collapse...different planes merged forever

[12:18] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Different worlds merged together would be a new idea alltogether

[12:18] Clover (sarria.yaffle): it all seems rather out of place for a school setting, even considering a world where magic and animal people exist

[12:19] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): a single overlapping plane might make sense

[12:19] RoyallyJinxed: Whole story line: " It's anime, just accept it."

[12:19] RoyallyJinxed: LOL

[12:19] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): denied!

[12:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I will write that down

[12:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): well its inevitably going to be a little wild if you want to incorporate as many people as possible

[12:19] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): likee dnd-type: material plane, arcane plane

[12:19] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): all the magic comes from the arcane

[12:19] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): yeah, but then mnore earth-based, so earth-realm, fairy realm (sidhe), gaia realm (beast people), all collaspsed into a single plane

[12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): also explains weird effects, like floatingislands

[12:20] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Or just

[12:20] Clover (sarria.yaffle): an alternate earth where magic happens to exist

[12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): also possible, renaissance in magic, instead of science

[12:21] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I think they should have existed in the beginning alongside humans and animals. The tales of their "origins" being lost in the annals of time. Where you're from pretty much stops at what street you grew up on and the stories of your ancestors.

[12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I believe sable wishes to say something. I do not wish to slow down the conversation, but lets try to give everyone a voice

[12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): ah

[12:21] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): No, its fine, this is great

[12:21] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I'm glad to hear all the opinions these are EXCELLENT ideas

[12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think Sable brings up a lovely point. What about a world that is normal except that not just humans evolved to the point where we are?

[12:21] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I like the renaissance i nmagic idea a lot

[12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): So like

[12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): different kingdoms

[12:22] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): but then wouldnt stuff like air conditioners look out of place?

[12:22] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): if it is magic juice or electricity, same idea :)

[12:22] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Air conditioners run on mana

[12:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): mm it does seem a little out of place still

[12:22] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): true, i just feel like stuff would have more arcane looking designs

[12:22] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think a bit of modern fantasy could work, though aren't we drifting away from the world and go a little more in depth with that already? :P

[12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): no reason magic and technology can't get along side by side. It doesn't have to be like harry potter where magic users are completely dumbfounded by it XD

[12:22] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): rather than "magic" air conditioner that looks like a normal air conditioner

[12:22] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): also possible humans went tech, while fairies/beast went magic/spirits

[12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): true

[12:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): and the world became a mix of it

[12:23] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): oh that's a good idea

[12:23] Clover (sarria.yaffle): some things just work better one way or the other~

[12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): that could be an interesting dynamic, humans are not very sensitive to magic but could still learn it if they really practice hard

[12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): so as a result, most humans just turned to technology instead

[12:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay do we have any ideas that are vastly different from the proposed ones still?

[12:24] Clover (sarria.yaffle): The school is actually an online game where middle aged people come on to play to live out their fantasies o3o

[12:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): other ideas? sure...perhaps humans created all other races as companions until they revolted and gain their own rights :P

[12:24] Clover (sarria.yaffle) ducks

[12:24] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): lmao

[12:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): sounds rather realistic

[12:24] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): mehh, that would just add likee a heavyyy racism dynamic

[12:24] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay so

[12:24] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): a virtual world

[12:24] Viya (furri.hiereichler): I, Animal Person?

[12:24] Clover (sarria.yaffle) was just joking XD

[12:25] Clover (sarria.yaffle): There's potential there but that's way too meta I think XD

[12:25] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay lets have a little voting on the proposed ideas and then delve deeper, shall we?

[12:25] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Kokoroception?

[12:25] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I wrote down a few concepts here and I'd like you to raise your hands for the one you like the most

[12:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 1: simple earth with fantasy elements

[12:26] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): (shows us th whole list, with number..and let us choose an umber)

[12:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ohh okay

[12:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): yeah thats good

[12:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I'll write it on the board

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay I'll list them for Reisen too

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 1. A simple earth with fantasy elements

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 2. A place between dimensions

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 3. Different worlds merged into one

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 4. A world with multiple races evolved alongside each other

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 5. A virtual reality world

[12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Please say your numbers now~

[12:28] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i like 2 and 3 equally

[12:28] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): 4

[12:28] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Whats the main differences between 1 and 4 ?

[12:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): 1 would be one where the world is earth 100% but fairy people and stuff kinda just live in it

[12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): 3 would probably be a bit less messy though so ill go with that

[12:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): where 4 would be that they have their own culture

[12:29] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): yup, 4

[12:29] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): 1 or 3  (cause it allows to have recognizable culture/architectture/etc)

[12:29] RoyallyJinxed: 4

[12:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): 4 is 1 but more detailed i think

[12:30] Clover (sarria.yaffle): so I think 4

[12:30] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Yeah 3 or 4

[12:30] DarthBunny Petrov: 3 or 4, no real preference for either

[12:30] Rosy Writer (animegirl4216): 4

[12:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): 3 allows a "catastrophe" to change the world (like flaoting island), 4 allows difficult cultures, but also needs more history building...a lot

[12:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): *different cultures

[12:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and would explain both science and magic

[12:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): because typically i dont think both would evolve side by side

[12:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hold on, let me write down the results. Malic still needs to vote :P

[12:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle): 4 also allows players to come up with their own cultures though, it's not something that needs to be fleshed out in detail so much

[12:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I will choose 3. in the end

[12:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i think if a culture had access to magic, they might find science to be a waste of time for little gain

[12:32] Malic Tolsen: I think 4 right now

[12:32] Viya (furri.hiereichler): because science really doesnt do much until you are very advanced

[12:32] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): okay can you guys give me a moment to count

[12:32] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I do not mean to interrupt just, number curunching x3

[12:32] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): IT depends on the limits of magic system

[12:32] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): how it compares with science, i mean

[12:33] Viya (furri.hiereichler): also it doesnt have t obe REAL science

[12:33] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): if telepathy only works for people within your sight, then phones still rock

[12:33] Viya (furri.hiereichler): it could be sci-fi obviously

[12:33] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think the theme has been relatively well established by the school itself already

[12:33] Clover (sarria.yaffle): magic and science can just be different ways of doing the same things, neither strictly better than the other, though one may have an edge in certain things over the other

[12:33] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): perhpas the school is one of the first places that offers combined tech/magic, magitech classes :P

[12:33] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): A bit of modern fantasy, since we will allow for powers

[12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hmm but like

[12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): with magic, you can just sort of do it naturally

[12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): like a skill

[12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): science requires much more than just that

[12:34] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): not if youre bad at magic

[12:34] Clover (sarria.yaffle): you assume magic needs no energy of it's own to accomplish

[12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im not talking strictly fuel

[12:34] RoyallyJinxed: I ate so much food I think I'm gonna die

[12:34] Clover (sarria.yaffle): or any kind of tool

[12:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but like

[12:35] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): nothing about magic is natural perse...that depends on the world

[12:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): if someone can just, for exaggerated example, enchant a broom to fly

[12:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): why would they go through the trouble to learn aerodynamics

[12:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): metallurgy

[12:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): etc, to build a plane?

[12:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is going too much into detail already

[12:35] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): cause you can fly only for 50mils before crashing down?

[12:35] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): not to mention ,lack of oxygen, wind-shearing, etc, when going faster

[12:36] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): if it takes 4 years to learn how to enchant a broom why wouldnt you learn more efficient ways to travel?

[12:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): because in many settings enchanting a broom to fly is a whole lot of work involving many different kinds of spells and expensive reagents and liots of time

[12:36] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I think we're dipping into a discussion more on strengths and weaknesses now though.

[12:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): for some people it may be easier to build an ultralight

[12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah lets try not to derail this too much, okay?

[12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Uhhm

[12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The votes indicate that idea 4 is the most popular for now

[12:37] Clover (sarria.yaffle): so that's, a world with magic and technology, where we have like, the country of cat people, and the country of elves, and so on?

[12:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah kinda like that

[12:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we can now dig into the crust some more. Vincent would you like to input what your thought on the next step should be?

[12:38] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): do we still have countries then or more like smaller regions and city-states?

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we keep that undefined

[12:38] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): If you want to go toward kingdoms, you will need to develop some history ..how the world is split and the position of each races in it

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Imagine it like in our real world. Where our heritage became very muddied and we just live all over the place now

[12:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): that could be up to wherever a player wants to be from really

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No I don't think thats necessary at all to be honest

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): We just say

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): There is an animal people kingdom

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): a human one

[12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): a fairy one

[12:38] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah i was going to say, if its a modern world then its most likely that "kingdoms" are nothing more than a name

[12:38] Viya (furri.hiereichler): with everyone spread out

[12:39] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and intermixed

[12:39] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): whats the technology level of the kingdoms?

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): All the same

[12:39] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): modern like humans?

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): no kingdom is at war

[12:39] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i'd assume modern or a little more advanced

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): we just

[12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): shared technology

[12:39] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): never heard of such a peaceful world before, but ok :)

[12:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): This is Kokoro academy after all

[12:40] Viya (furri.hiereichler): she meant right now

[12:40] Viya (furri.hiereichler): no kingdom is openly at war i think

[12:40] Viya (furri.hiereichler): thats not to say they all get along perfectly

[12:40] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but thats not important right now\

[12:40] Clover (sarria.yaffle): again, that sort of thing I think can be generally left up to the player saying "I am from the Land of Bloopledorf, we are a bit behind on technology from the rest of the world and our population is primarily nomadic cat people. But we make good meat pies"

[12:40] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): well, you do know that saying "Stories about happy families are boring, but stories about unhappy families are the most enticing" :)

[12:40] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): well think of it like the modern world

[12:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well the conflicts will be made at Kokoro and not in the backstory I think :P

[12:41] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): there's plenty of tension

[12:41] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): is teh world metropolic ? ( or whatever the term is)

[12:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think Clover brings up a few good points. Even in our modern world we still have nomadic tribes and japan is a little ahead of everyone else

[12:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Metropolic?

[12:41] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): one city can have multiple cultures/races

[12:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes

[12:41] Viya (furri.hiereichler): metropolitan?

[12:41] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): just not a lot of open faced wars between the large, developed nations

[12:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that would be good

[12:41] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): gah i type slow

[12:41] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): so if i walk in my human city, 20 percent could be animal-ear people, etc

[12:42] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah like immigrants

[12:42] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Thoughts?

[12:42] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): that'd be good

[12:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i support that idea

[12:42] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): ok, so "race" doesnt really exist in term of "Effect" then

[12:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler): also, are animal ear people their own race? or human/full animal-people hybrids?

[12:43] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): ehh? what do you mean?

[12:43] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): america is intermixed theres plenty of racism and stuff there

[12:43] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): we dont do racism

[12:43] RoyallyJinxed: that would explain minty being a fully fluffy

[12:43] RoyallyJinxed: :o

[12:43] Viya (furri.hiereichler): IC racism could be interesting

[12:43] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am of pure blood

[12:43] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): IC racism could be interesting of course

[12:43] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): animal-eared should be closed to fairies, then furries actually

[12:44] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I thiiink

[12:44] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Wait let me collect my thoughts x3

[12:44] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Furries are beast-people..., animal-ears are more like nature spirits, like kitsune and fairies :P

[12:44] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay I think what could be is that you just decide for yourself. You might wanna be a bunny that came from moon or you are just a bunny whose mommy was a human that did it with a furry bunny

[12:45] Clover (sarria.yaffle): lol rei

[12:45] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i like nature spirit idea

[12:45] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): moon bunny = nature spirit btw

[12:45] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): close to goddess even

[12:45] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay so spirits seem to be a good idea with people?

[12:45] Clover (sarria.yaffle): soor

[12:45] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Not Reisen. She is just a useless bunny, only good for her sex appeal

[12:45] Viya (furri.hiereichler): if all animal ear people were spirits like goddesses thsi school would have a serious power gap x.x

[12:45] Clover (sarria.yaffle): XD

[12:46] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Spirit does not necessarily have to equate to great power though

[12:46] Clover (sarria.yaffle): not goddesses, more like popori and elin o3o

[12:46] Viya (furri.hiereichler): no but it implies inherent power

[12:46] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): goddeses are the highest tier...normal nature-spirit arent like that...gods dont live here :P

[12:46] Clover (sarria.yaffle): who are nature spirits

[12:46] Viya (furri.hiereichler): which humans and such dont have

[12:46] Clover (sarria.yaffle): yes i just made Elin relevant, deal with it o3o

[12:46] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): human have tech, beast people have strongest bodies, spirit have natural magic

[12:47] Viya (furri.hiereichler): pfft~

[12:47] Viya (furri.hiereichler): what if i want to be an animal eared person who uses tech though o3o

[12:47] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): yeah, its like a triangle of natural abilities

[12:47] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): then you do that

[12:47] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We still need to have the "Every rule has an exception" thing

[12:47] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): you can Viya, as everyone is mixxed

[12:47] RoyallyJinxed: Hercules when he fell from olympus

[12:47] Clover (sarria.yaffle): then be an animal ear person that uses tech :3

[12:47] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Humans can learn magic, Bunnies wear walkmans, Spirits do sports

[12:47] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): thats like saying

[12:47] Clover (sarria.yaffle): people arent defined by their birth

[12:47] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): "my talent is drawing but i want to paint"

[12:48] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): "sadly my life is chained to drawing"

[12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): lol yeah

[12:48] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): its just natural inclinaitons or potential..doesnt mean you ahve to focus on it

[12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): not everyone fits their mold

[12:48] Clover (sarria.yaffle): or maybe in your character's culture there's a caste system and you ARE defined by your birth and you struggle against that, that can be interesting too~

[12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Of course

[12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): india is still a thing

[12:48] Viya (furri.hiereichler): lol

[12:48] RoyallyJinxed: savage

[12:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): If you look at our real world I think thats a good example of how different cultures can be even though we are so intermixed at the same time

[12:49] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but we can keep differences between races minimal only...else we might get splitting up of some classes

[12:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes open racism would still be open racism

[12:49] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): thats not what i mean

[12:49] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): if beast-people have better bodies..then having olympics, means beast mean will always win

[12:49] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah

[12:50] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): so people will split olympics in race categoiries

[12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): maybe what it should be is like

[12:50] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): and i dont think we want that

[12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): beast people can learn that stuff faster

[12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but arent necessarily stronger

[12:50] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): same problem

[12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): spirits and stuff can learn magic fastrer, but arent inherently more powerful or something

[12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): humans are jack of all trades like in every rpg ever o3o

[12:50] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): That doesn't have to be regulated

[12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): how fast you want to learn something is up to you in a social rp setting

[12:51] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I agree with Minty 100%. I still think we should keep allowing people to be flexible with their characters in mind.

[12:51] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): though i support just going, "beast is +str, animalear is +magic, human is +tech"

[12:51] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): how fast can panda's run anyway? <.<

[12:51] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): too many rpgs refuse to do race modifiers anymore

[12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): they are very fast at climbing trees you know

[12:51] Clover (sarria.yaffle): this isnt an RPG

[12:52] Clover (sarria.yaffle): this is a social RP

[12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Thank you, clover

[12:52] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): that wass just likee, an example i guess

[12:52] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i meantt

[12:52] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i feel like its moree realistic

[12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Also on a sidenote. We are going into the end of the hour here. Would you guys mind to go into hour two or would you prefer to delay it for next time?

[12:52] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): i can continue

[12:53] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Same

[12:53] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): like, an elf doesnt run around with an orc sized greatsword just cause its fair and not get penalties

[12:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I have no life and can go on as long as you want

[12:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i can continue as well

[12:53] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i can continue

[12:53] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We're thinking about this too much on the plane of DnD though.

[12:53] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): yeah probably

[12:53] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well Aki I think that is up to you as a character. A big wolf person may be able to wield the sword, but a panda like me might now

[12:53] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): dnd is my only rp experience

[12:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Orcs and elves are both M sized creatures, and Orc has a natural strength bonus true, but they would use the same size weapon o3o

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): shh

[12:54] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): ehh? half-orcs are L sized

[12:54] Clover (sarria.yaffle): do not make me grab my PHB, i have it in arms reach

[12:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I dont think orcs can join this school, not enough intelligence. Reisen only accept the smartest of students

[12:54] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Social RP is a lot more about the strength and weaknesses in ones individual person rather than their race. Though those can be influenced by their race.

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): pffft

[12:54] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): And yes the general theme is anime looking characters

[12:54] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Yep what Minty said

[12:54] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): so Kemono furries and animal people

[12:54] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i was just going off the first big thing i thought of =.=

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i have to make an anime orc now

[12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): just to see if i can

[12:54] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Don't worry, Aki

[12:55] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): regardless, you can see the argument i was making

[12:55] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i can just swap races to human and halfling

[12:55] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well yes

[12:55] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if you are a small human

[12:55] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): you may be slower and weaker

[12:55] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): up to you

[12:55] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): yeah true

[12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think any race should be inherently locked out of something

[12:56] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): ^

[12:56] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i like how minty put it

[12:56] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): never said they should be locked.

[12:56] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I think we should keep it mostly "human" in those aspects (like height, strength, etc)

[12:56] Viya (furri.hiereichler): a huge wolf can probably do something she cant

[12:56] Viya (furri.hiereichler): even though theyre the same "race"

[12:56] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): oh nevermind =.=

[12:56] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it's okay, Aki

[12:56] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): there there

[12:57] Clover (sarria.yaffle): In the end it's a matter of what makes sense for any given character rather than what makes sense for a species as a whole

[12:57] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): So characters should be flexible, no one size fits all models? Can we sum it up to that?

[12:57] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes I think we can

[12:57] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Done. Next

[12:57] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): ..dangerous

[12:58] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I'm not going to try and sit here to think about all the dangers before they happen honestly. Power balancing and stuff is a topic for another discussion

[12:58] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): thats too slack...we might end up with goku and vegeta flying around then

[12:58] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): This conversation wasn't supposed to be about power balancing today. I think thats for the future

[12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah this is just laying the groundwork

[12:58] Clover (sarria.yaffle): that's a matter of bopping them upside the heads and telling them that sort of thing isn't really appropriate for this kind of RP

[12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and yeah like clover said

[12:58] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): its about world building, which includes, "powers" actually

[12:58] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah I think the hard limits to how strong, how magical, how technologically adapt you can be is another discussion?

[12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): its not like yo ucant just say "thats OP, change it"

[12:59] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): The topic was supposed to be "Backstory". Powers are the fruits that spring from the soil of that ground work.

[12:59] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): thats just avoidance <.<

[12:59] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Vincent you have to understand that powers are a BIG BIG topic that needs its own discussion. I think that is something we can quite literally leave out for now to just set up the world

[13:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): i am not talking about the details of powers...but you need to define "levels", like which technology level the world has

[13:00] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I agree, Powers are important. But they're not the topic of discussion today. ESPECIALLY without Reisen here 9no offense to anyone)

[13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i thought the technology level is modern/slightly future

[13:01] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): You are underestimating "powers" of any kind. Personap power shapes the world and its history...ignoring it will just lead to holes and frustration

[13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): we arent ignoring it though

[13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): its not like the school is opening tomorrow

[13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): we have plenty of saturdays to cover that o3o

[13:01] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Exactly.

[13:01] Clover (sarria.yaffle): We're saying "That's a huge topic that doesn't fit the scope of this discussion of the basics, and should wait for another time when the owner is here"

[13:01] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): its the next step for world-building, why put it off..it aint that hard to simply define some levels

[13:02] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay let's keep the atmosphere friendly, guys

[13:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Vincent I will give you the chance to propose what you understand under "Defining levels." Please go ahead?

[13:03] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Lets take technology which we know the level of. Its modern, we know how far technology can take us, strongest weapon it allows us to use and how far and fast we can travel

[13:04] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): those are levels....we need to those for magic too else it will become chaos

[13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i thought you were talking about personal power

[13:04] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I suggested earlier that doing something with magic should not be inherently any easier than doing it with technology

[13:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay so you want to say just how strong anything can be

[13:05] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): science gives you "guns" , that is personal power.

[13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i thik he wants to establish precisely what point technologically and magically the world is

[13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): which does makes sense

[13:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): but I thought we.. pretty much already did that

[13:05] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Ok, I will make an example

[13:05] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Please do

[13:05] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Personal Power level "stone". A fireball is like throwing a rock to someone, except its on fire

[13:06] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): personal power" nuclear explosion: fireball is like a giant bomb, exploding the school

[13:06] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): same spell, two different levels

[13:06] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah well

[13:06] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): we dont want the last one ,i hope

[13:06] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i would say, maybe the next level up from stone

[13:06] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): not as personal power anyway...perhaps military have conjoined magic that allows a fireball to do that...but personal power wise, it should not

[13:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im confused again, are you talkiong about balancing players power or defining how advanced this school's universe is?

[13:06] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and getting the materials and magickal energy together to cast a nuclear powered fireball spell should be just as difficult as getting the materials for a nuke

[13:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): If I may intervene?

[13:07] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): level is "what does magic allow you to do on personal level"

[13:07] Malic Tolsen: we do need to work on level one of this because this is the first meeting.. not try to skip to lvl 8 of the fine tuning yet because we have not gotten to that point yet

[13:07] Viya (furri.hiereichler): wouldnt that depend on how trained you are?

[13:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay let me just put my take on things to give everyone an ease of mind. I think people will like what I have to say

[13:07] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): no, training is how well you do it, not how strong you do it

[13:07] Viya (furri.hiereichler) is listening

[13:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Go for it Minty

[13:08] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): quick interject: a cantrip and a level 9 spell dont do the same damage

[13:08] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): its aint d&d <.<

[13:09] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that nuclear weapons and spells with an equal level of power should be a thing in the universe, however not at this school as that would be stupid. First of all the main thought of this school is not combat oriented. Guns should be as strictly disallowed as shooting fireballs as shooting fireballs at people. With that being said. The school focus will be on teaching students. Wether it will be magic or how to pick apart a computer. As such I think 99% of people coming here should not have strengths that go beyond a novice level in understanding. At least in terms of violent powers.

[13:10] Viya (furri.hiereichler): that makes sense

[13:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): these ARE kids here after all

[13:10] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): well yeah, i believe he was just using fireball as an easy frame of reference

[13:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): teenagers

[13:10] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Young adults*

[13:10] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but we are the smartest of kids! :P

[13:10] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Still not super saiyans with guns

[13:10] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): either way, i think it should be possible but strength and training are definitely related

[13:11] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Thats want to warn, that if magic as personal power becomes too big, it will become a military asset....which means, Rei-chan will be a general <.<

[13:11] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): obviously we will very firmly not go in that direction, I can ease your mind on that already

[13:12] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): dont just throw out my points cause i used dnd as a reference =.= with no training you can freeze the very top of a glass of water. Learning for 50 years you can freeze a section of river or something. If training didnt affect strength then a 4 year old with enough time on their hands could nuke a city

[13:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Magic should be understood as a tool to make cutesie potions that turn you into a frog for an hour because thats fun and cute

[13:12] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): so magic (personal) is more on the level of "convenience" then

[13:12] Viya (furri.hiereichler): though the notecard did mention military training? i assume thats like ROTC, strategy etc and not actual training?

[13:13] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): You dont have to carry rocks with you, cause you can shoot off a small fireball. You dont need to do hair-coloring, cause that magic potion will instantly turn your hair blue like Clovers

[13:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): It was one of many ideas, we will get to that, viya

[13:13] Clover (sarria.yaffle): you're still making the assumption that magic is something you can just do as opposed to something that you need foci and reagents and such for. Using magic as the equivilent of a rocket propelled grenade is going to need some kind of expensive staff and material component to fire that fireball, no different than firing and RPG to begin with

[13:14] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): that depends on the magic system used

[13:14] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): some races might have magical innate abilities...a kitsune can use foxfire naturally for example

[13:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think it can be a multitude of training and materials. You can understand how to build a computer and train in going in depth with that and you need to have good tools to get a powerhouse pc

[13:14] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think any race should start with a power like that personally

[13:14] Viya (furri.hiereichler): humans cant spontaneously throw grenades

[13:14] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): depends how strong it is..if foxfire is like throwing a glowing rock, its fine

[13:14] Viya (furri.hiereichler): so i dont think a fox girl should be able to spontaneously throw fire, in this setting

[13:15] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): we can still punch you in the face or throw a rock at you

[13:15] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): that's nice, non-humans can do things humans cant do, it's so surpising right?

[13:15] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): humans have internet :P

[13:15] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): thats details guys

[13:15] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Are your worries cleared up for the moment, Vincent?

[13:16] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): yeah

[13:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Good

[13:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): now I lost track of what we wanted to talk about next however. Anyone remembers?

[13:16] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but now there is a question about a "magic system", on what rules it works :)

[13:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Thats fine. The magic system and stuff like that can be expanded upon during it's own meeting

[13:17] Viya (furri.hiereichler): lol

[13:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Uhh

[13:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ahh yes

[13:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): So let's list some things I have written down

[13:18] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im glad i wasnt the only one who though that about her name <.>

[13:18] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Bunny Meister sees the notes, rips it apart and decides to make a concentration camp of the school

[13:18] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am sorry I am completely out of hte loop for a moment

[13:18] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Did we ever discuss why the school exists?

[13:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I wrote down that all races will be intermixed like immigrants

[13:19] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Because reisen wanted it to o3o

[13:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The technology level and magic is the same as modern day roughly

[13:19] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): yeah, reisen willed it

[13:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): with differences

[13:19] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Alright

[13:19] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Wasnt Reisen a savior bunny from the moon, to help out the poor masses with her brilliant ears?

[13:19] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): and on the 4th day reisen gave us KA

[13:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): and characters can be very open to their own interpretation to allow players to play what they want

[13:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we established the outside world roughly. Shall we get to the meat and discuss the backstory of this school?

[13:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): welcome Bunny Meister!

[13:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Reisen you are late, detention

[13:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu) squeaks

[13:20] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Yo

[13:20] RoyallyJinxed: so we are in agreement all races have perks but bunnys are simple and only good for their sex appeal?

[13:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hello reisen

[13:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes

[13:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I concur

[13:20] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Aye

[13:20] DarthBunny Petrov: o.o

[13:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): they are also good for soup :T

[13:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay I gave you all a notecard earlier of Sable having written down a lot of premade ideas

[13:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): alright, thank you

[13:21] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Now we have a basic foundation of the world, we can go through the list of ideas and see what sticks and what not

[13:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): He did his homework very well and we commend him for that. But before we discuss his, does anyone else have their own idea that we shall add on to the notecard?

[13:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen is a little tired and still recovering from her travel, so i'll just be quiet and listen/read through this o3o

[13:21] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Yes, other ideas are paramount to having a story we can all get behind.

[13:22] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Mhhm

[13:22] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): If anyone has something, please raise your hands? Don't worry it does not have to be a tolkien novel. Just a concept is enough

[13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and idea pertaining to something specific or just the world in general?

[13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): an*

[13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): the backstory as to how this school came into existance

[13:23] Clover (sarria.yaffle) handup

[13:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): okie

[13:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): question: can different species interbreed?

[13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Uhh

[13:23] Clover (sarria.yaffle): uhhhhhh

[13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I guess

[13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): If you want that lol

[13:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): so use protection, kids

[13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay Clover raised her hand so we hear what she has to say

[13:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): part of worldbuilding...no idea if hybrids can exist or not

[13:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): (naturally, magic or science can help in hybrids if parents want that)

[13:24] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I think a few of these ideas on the notecard fit together really well, Especially the ones about the Benefactor founding the school to further people's learning, and it being a place to act as a way to bridge the gaps betwen different cultures to build a better tomorrow

[13:25] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): What gap? arent we already mixed together, living together in the same cities and all, without discrimination?

[13:25] Aki Watanabe (sleepyami): i dont recall anyone saying no discrimination

[13:25] Viya (furri.hiereichler): were talking about the history of the school, i doubt it was just built in a day

[13:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think there can still be a gap.

[13:26] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and yes, racism will always be a thing i think

[13:26] Viya (furri.hiereichler): no matter how mixed yo uget

[13:26] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): And yeah it could just be one of the first schools that allowed all people to meet in a neutral ground and learn without prejudice

[13:26] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Humans are sex-crazy, no way they will discriminate bunnies or cat-ear girls <<

[13:26] Clover (sarria.yaffle): just because races live together doesnt mean all culture freely intermingle

[13:26] Viya (furri.hiereichler): one need only look to RL for proof of that

[13:27] Clover (sarria.yaffle): even in modern times, look at cities in the US, all kinds of people living in the same city, but they also tend to self segregate into their own districts like "chinatown" or "little italy"

[13:27] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): thats not really discrimination

[13:28] Clover (sarria.yaffle): it both is and isnt

[13:28] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): if they are forced in districts, then yes

[13:28] Clover (sarria.yaffle): someone not of that culture moving into an area like that is going to get weird looks

[13:28] Clover (sarria.yaffle): it's not forced, like i said, is self segregation, it's cultural rather than legal

[13:28] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but I like chinese culture :(

[13:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): even when legally everyone is equal, people are still slow to integrate their cultures 200+ years later

[13:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Lets not have a political discussion though

[13:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sorry, not meant to be political, just an example of how a school that's dedicated to getting people to intermingle and understand each other still makes sense in a modern setting

[13:30] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I cant really get that. Ofcourse, I just know my own country, but all schools are open to all already...its nothing special that Reisen would need to create a special school for

[13:30] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well imagine

[13:30] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): in the 40s america

[13:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): or maybe a bit earlier

[13:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle): all the coolest schools are really old o3o

[13:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): black and white people were segregated

[13:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): so when the school was founded it may have not been as harmonic as it is nowadays

[13:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): yeah, but we are in a more modern time now

[13:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): yeah but at the time of founding it may have not been

[13:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): ah, true..history wise, its possible

[13:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): were talking about the founding

[13:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle): yes but we're discussing why the school was made to begin with

[13:31] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): so, how old is the school?:)

[13:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): 2 trillion years

[13:31] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Older than Mika

[13:32] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh?

[13:32] Viya (furri.hiereichler): then 3 trillion years

[13:32] Viya (furri.hiereichler): minimum

[13:32] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): thats pretty old

[13:32] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): so, Reisen first student were elemantal spirits, and later dinos?

[13:32] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): the general style of the school is one that has seen its fair share of students however

[13:33] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): perhaps first school to allow multiple races? perhaps even given its own autonomous land? (like church in italty has, etc)

[13:33] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I would like to point out one note in Sable's notecard that I thought was very cute and in depth and plays with the concept of understanding

[13:33] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am lagging out like hell x.x

[13:34] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Wait, if Reisen is founder ...than she is really old and an Great Moon Bunny Spirit with eternal youth?

[13:35] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen is not grandma bunny =3=

[13:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes it could be a school founded by a powerful wizard that raised these islands into the sky to provide a place for everyone to meet and learn. Because he saw the conflicts of ancient past as meaningless and only stopped everyone from advancing. And now a long time later it has evolved in a prestigious school whose origins has become more of a fairytale than anything

[13:35] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Wizard = Grandma Bunny from the moon?

[13:35] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): and Reisen the third, inherited it?

[13:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): yes it was Mika the whole time

[13:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): thats why she lives in the shrine

[13:35] Viya (furri.hiereichler): welcome back

[13:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): but nobody knows that

[13:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen would likely play a character other than reisen for headmaster o3o

[13:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): :o

[13:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Yeah I don't think Reisen will be Reisen given Reisen is a Touhou

[13:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think ive ever seen reisen as not reisen

[13:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): guys focus

[13:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Reisen is not the topic today, as much as she would like to be

[13:37] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): what better thing to focus on, then Reisen?:P

[13:37] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Maybe rReisen will make totally original bunny girl with green hair and blue skirt

[13:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): =m=

[13:37] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I proposed an idea of a basic backstory. What are the thoughts?

[13:37] Clover (sarria.yaffle): anyway

[13:38] RoyallyJinxed: but how can a bunny be a wizard? Unless she raised the islands with the power of sex appeal

[13:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I like that idea minty

[13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): well

[13:38] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): perhaps rather then a wizard, it was three heroes from different races that combine their powers to raise the islands?

[13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I kinda did raise the island with the power of sex appeal

[13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): by selling boobs

[13:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Thats a good point, vincent

[13:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it could be multiple people

[13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but that should not be the story xD

[13:38] Rosy Writer (animegirl4216): Oo\.o

[13:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): many wizards

[13:38] RoyallyJinxed: I think it should

[13:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): or perhaps gods even, but nobody knows if it was actually gods

[13:38] RoyallyJinxed: Reisen was a world known plastic surgeon

[13:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): the backstory could be more of a legend than a reality

[13:39] RoyallyJinxed: who gave god a nice rack

[13:39] RoyallyJinxed: and he raised the islands

[13:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that

[13:39] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Clover thinks discussion is breaking down into sillyness

[13:39] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): sex appeal can make things rise...so why not islands

[13:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes I am getting a little frustrated

[13:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the idea that some mysterious old person who has sinced past away being the person who founded the school is a good idea, because it gives the sense that the school is old which is what the school was meant to be

[13:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): And I still wanted to discuss one of Sable's ideas

[13:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Mhhm

[13:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Sable also proposed the following, which I think has a lot of very endearing elements that fit our general idea

[13:40] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): -An object (Seed/Stone/Gem/Tree/Whatever) has grown at the center of the island. It absorbed power over time and consequently inspired "growth" in all things around it. It called out to other people and creatures to grow. Creatures of all walks of life gathered to it. Wise men philosophized around it. Artists crafted around it. Friendships were fostered around it. Romance blossomed around it. This object was not responsible for the growth in and of itself, but instead nurtured the ability for these pursuits to come out full on.

[13:40] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): a World tree idea?

[13:41] Clover (sarria.yaffle): That sounds like an excuse to build a pretty crystal

[13:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I personally found this very endearing and I think we can maybe take some of that?

[13:41] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Maybe that's how the wizard made the island float

[13:41] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and kept it floating

[13:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen feels like a world tree might be a little too like some elven tale or something

[13:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well we can find an object that fits for us

[13:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it could just be the islands themselves

[13:42] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): well, the norse version of the world tree was how all the worlds/realms/dimensions were connected to eachother

[13:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm

[13:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen thinks we could use idea's from old folklore, but make something new with it, rather than copy it too much

[13:42] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Some kind of artifact that is enriched by the growth of people around it to keep the islands afloat long after the wizard that raised them passed away

[13:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler): maybe

[13:42] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Something from the moon perhaps

[13:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler): with his last breath

[13:43] Viya (furri.hiereichler): he peacefully passed away and touched the crystal or whatever with part of his soul?

[13:43] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and sort of became like a guardian spirit or something? o3o

[13:43] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): make it an old sorceress then!...dont want a pervy old ghost

[13:44] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think it would be sentient

[13:44] Viya (furri.hiereichler): it would just be a fragment of his spirit

[13:44] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Clover is partial to shiny crystals, maybe with vines on it

[13:44] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): okay so we like the idea of people from all kingdoms to come together and raise this school. Perhaps they could have raised it around a powerful artifact. Like a crystal that was said it had fallen from the moon like a tear

[13:45] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): how does that sound?

[13:45] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): sounds fine with me

[13:46] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): could be a plot line where the crystal core becomes sentient and becomes a guardian

[13:46] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): That sounds badass imho

[13:46] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): hehe

[13:47] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think the idea of building a school on the principles of allowing everyone to come also ties in nicely with Reisen's idea that people from other schools are freely allowed to visit as guest students

[13:47] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): what are the thoughts. Reisen?

[13:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen likes the idea, but maybe we should have something other than a crystal, something not yet uh

[13:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): seen

[13:49] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen thinks if we had something like that

[13:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): You want it to be a carrot, don't you

[13:49] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the artifact should be unique to kokoro

[13:49] Reisen (extrude.ragu): maybe we could design a cool artifact

[13:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay do you mean not yet seen as in it's hidden in the island or more like something that hasn't been done yet?

[13:49] Viya (furri.hiereichler): what abouut a crystal tree?

[13:49] Reisen (extrude.ragu): -w-;

[13:49] Clover (sarria.yaffle): should be

[13:49] Viya (furri.hiereichler): <.>

[13:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think an actual artifact would be better

[13:49] Clover (sarria.yaffle): something... hearty

[13:50] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Maybe

[13:50] Clover (sarria.yaffle): it's the heart of the school

[13:50] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Golden Crystal Carrot?

[13:50] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The heart of the school is literally a heart

[13:50] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and the schools iconagraphy is all hearts

[13:50] RoyallyJinxed: magical girl wand LOL

[13:50] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I like the idea of like a really pretty golden heart that is nicely ornamented perhaps?

[13:50] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): could even be a dragon spirit or something

[13:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): A dragonball?

[13:51] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): eh..not that way

[13:51] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): What about a Laurel or a Golden Apple?

[13:52] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I did like the Golden Carrot idea

[13:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think something that ties in with the school iconography would be nice, but without it just being a golden version of the school logo lol

[13:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): How do you iconograph a heart without making it a heart though

[13:52] Rosy Writer (animegirl4216): Abstract?

[13:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): unless you make it an actual heart

[13:52] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): triforce?

[13:52] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Wait, what do you mean by iconography

[13:52] Clover (sarria.yaffle): look at the desk in front of you

[13:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu): r

[13:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): or the hud that atttached to you

[13:53] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The general iconography is that there is a big heart with a smaller heart all over the school as a log

[13:53] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): there are two hearts...something dual then perhaps

[13:53] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think it is a good symbol for multiple people coming together aswell

[13:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): hai~

[13:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): except the hearts are not equal...one is big, one small

[13:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): could be a tangle of roots or vines in the shape of a heart?

[13:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): iunno

[13:54] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): But thats the literal heart again

[13:54] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): What if

[13:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): crystal heart inside a tree

[13:54] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We use an arrow?

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): An arrow symoblizes truth

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Magakoro = True Heart

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Sooo

[13:55] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but instead of a haert, its really a crystal presentation of the moon

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Maybe an arrow of some kind

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): The arrow represent find your "True" self

[13:55] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): or "True" heart while you're here

[13:56] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Cutting through the difficulties of life and attempting to stay on the straight path

[13:56] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): that fits with persona ,fine with me :P

[13:56] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): As you shoot upward as a person

[13:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): what if

[13:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): instead of an artifact

[13:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the two hearts symbol comes from a story of 'two hearts'

[13:57] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Mhhm

[13:57] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Go on...

[13:57] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): How the old Wizard meet an Old Spirit and become a couple, and through their love across races, created teh school and the floating lands?

[13:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): for example.. it could be the story of a wizard and his wife that lead to the school, or some kind of ancient love story

[13:58] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Mhhm

[13:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): or even

[13:58] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): So no artifact, just the story and the symbol tying together?

[13:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how about going one step further

[13:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the two hearts are of differing sizes

[13:58] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Two trees entwined in a shape resembling a heart? Then you can put traditional charms all over it too~ Then tie it into the idea that reisen just said, with a story that the spirit of their love inhabits the trees and caused them to grow like that

[13:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): it could be a story of growth

[13:59] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): what if the core was something they created together cause of their hearts being one,  combining ancient magic with spiritual energy to create a core of life for the islands?

[13:59] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): please let everyoen finish their thoughts

[13:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): where one heart represents the 'teacher' or perhaps the parent of the time, and the smaller one the growing person?

[13:59] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think thats very cute

[13:59] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): oh, One Heart the nurture the other heart

[13:59] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): to nurture

[14:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen thinks a story about personal growth and development would tie in very well with what the school is all about, too

[14:00] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay so a story about growth, development and bringing people of all kinds together

[14:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Thats a nice idea, not only fits teh school motive, but actually is less down then other "heart ideas"

[14:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): less done

[14:00] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): I like it!

[14:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu) squeaks

[14:00] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay how about this

[14:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): reisen saves the day \o/

[14:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Listen up peoples

[14:01] Rosy Writer (animegirl4216): Very cool