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Tea & Cake 02/07/2016

Summary:

We discussed the timeline the school exists in, how fast it travels and how time at the school works in terms of students etc, whether or not students ‘graduate and leave’ and made some decisions

Festivals, Celebrations and Weather will tie in with real life to make it less confusing to players and increase the likelihood of players being able to turn up to special events

The student lifecycle at the school is potentially infinite - They can graduate from a course and start a new one as the same student if they wish and we won’t require them to make new characters for it

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#kokoro-academy #tea & cake #timeline #time

Character Workshop 26/06/2016

Overview:

We talked about integrating powers into the day to day roleplay at Kokoro and a few key decisions were made

Powers will not be innate but only gained at the school

We will put together some ‘magic physics’ so as to give magic more meaning, more lore, make it studyable and help balance it into the slice of life school roleplay

Reisen decided to form a ‘magic commitee’ who will be working out the magic physics, this is formed of Viya and Clover as they both seemed to be into that

[12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, lets start the workshop shall we o3o [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, last meeting, for those who weren't there or need reminding [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): but Reisen [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am right here [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): basically, we were talking about powers at Kokoro, and trying to integrate them whilst keeping the slice of life environment [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): now about half of the circle here today was with me earlier and I know pretty well that those people would rather there not be powers at all, so we have a interesting mixture and I'm in the hot seat of it all x3c [12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): there her is [12:05] Clover (sarria.yaffle): *he [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): What I think I will do is take the wheel as need be here, and to keep the meetings consistent, we will talk about trialing powers, as there are also people in this room who are for them. So, today's meeting will be discussing how powers work, whether they are innate or not, etc, given the context that we're avoiding using powers for conflict in day to day school life, and assuming we want to keep conflict to specialized events for those people [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So why don't we start with a basic question - given the context of what we're trialing, should powers be an innate thing - Ie, can we have kitsune godesses and 'chosen ones' etc, or are the powers gained at the school? [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Do we have to raise our hands? [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that would be best [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest [12:08] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Powers should be gained at the school. [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Why do you think they should be gained at the school? [12:10] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Because if people come in being 300 year old animal gods it hinders true character development. I believe if you want to RP you can have a model for yourself, but coming into Kokoro you need to be a blank sheet. You find your characters strengths, quirks, and weaknesses as you play them. Again, having a general outline is fine. But you shoudl refine it here. [12:11] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Weaknesses make the character. Not powers. [12:11] BrainBaffled: ^ [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that's a pretty interesting view and pretty agreeable too. Would anyone else like to add anything to that? In agreement? disagreement? [12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Minty? [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that is a very good point because it adds to the fact that this is a school. You can come to a school with a gift, but you don't exactly have honed any of your skills usually [12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): When you say a 'gift' [12:13] RoyallyJinxed: harry potter (≧ω≦) [12:13] Reisen (extrude.ragu): this implies that people -do- come to school with a power? [12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No what I meant is... They come here because they can learn magic here. [12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if we go that route [12:14] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:15] BrainBaffled: I think that there shouldn't be special classes for powers though, it would have to be someone discovered here on his/her own [12:15] BrainBaffled: and perhaps developed here as they learn how to deal with it [12:16] BrainBaffled: but if u make a magic class everyone will want powers from the start [12:16] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): That is true... [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: "Nyaa~? What is a sudden multipowerful teenage kitsune goddess to doooo~?" [12:17] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Get nerfed [12:17] BrainBaffled: he goes to Hentai high [12:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): shh [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: xD [12:17] Clover (sarria.yaffle) hand [12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3c That is a pretty interesting perspective, if I can say something myself, it actually surprises me, because, from my point of view if peoples powers were non-innate, they were going to learn them at the school, it just seemed logical to me.. I'm not sure how people would 'discover their powers at Kokoro, though? [12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover? [12:19] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Perhaps if there is a magic class it can be along the lines of a physics or chemistry class rather than "a practical course of throwing fireworks around" [12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf) raises a hand [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hm, so is Clover implying that, magic would have requirements to create effects etc? ie, there are certain formula's and rules to follow to achieve results? [12:21] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((I'll get to the hand raisers, just curious to see what Clover has to say)) [12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): yeah, magic shoulodnt be something whetre you can just go "i grunt a bit and throw a fireball" it should have it's own kind of physics to it [12:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler) likes that idea [12:22] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Same! Its really cool. [12:22] Clover (sarria.yaffle): and a magic class, rather than being a class about casting spells specifically, could be a class about those magical physics [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I personally think that would be a very good idea, and it sort of helps the lore along in a reason why there might not be magic conflicts with kitsune gods and fireball throwing people all the time in a reasonably explained way x3 [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Vincent? [12:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Never mind, people are turning into a proper direction again [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:24] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): however, one thing is that we have different races...some might have innate abilities others couldj learn such practices. Thats all [12:26] BrainBaffled: I suggest magic the wrong use of magic to be an offence, the magic physics class idea is alot better then just teaching people how to shoot lasers, perhaps though the magic users could have an underground club or something where they practice on their own, that way it doesn't have to be official but can still be practiced and non magic users don't have to go into the subject at all [12:28] Reisen (extrude.ragu): The sort of vibe I'm personally feeling from all of this, is that perhaps a makeshift 'institute of magic' could be useful, in the sense of, coming up with the 'physics' behind the magic, and what the wrong and right uses of magic are [12:29] RoyallyJinxed: hogwarts [12:29] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦) [12:29] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^ [12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i could help with that :3 [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen feels that for example, someone like Clover would thrive in something like this, as Clover is really into her magic and would be able to come up with a fun system with some people? [12:29] Clover (sarria.yaffle): o3o [12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im the kind of person who loves reading into how magic actually works in the lore of fantasy universes and stuff [12:30] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I could work on somethingf like that sure [12:30] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) raises her hand [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Bunnerz? :3 [12:31] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): I really kinda like what Jinxy said, it may be a little easier to pull influence from Hogwarts, when classes come into play, like potion, and defense against the arts. o3o [12:31] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand [12:31] Clover (sarria.yaffle) handsup as well [12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Quest~ [12:32] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): We also need to discuss natural "power" training. Physical strength ,physical speed, martial arts experience, and technology. Not everyone will use magic. [12:33] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is true, those should be things we discuss, and I'm going to write them down so I don't forget, but I think we have really got a ball rolling with the magic physics stuff here so we should stick with that for now :3 [12:34] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): Fair. [12:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Clover? [12:35] Clover (sarria.yaffle): When it comes to bunnerz's comment, I don't think we should look at something like hogwarts too much, we don't really need a bunch of different specific classes on different aspects of magic, as, from the vibe I've gotten, this is a school that happens to have magic as an elective course, rather than a School of Magic [12:36] Clover (sarria.yaffle): specific courses are something that you'd go to a trade school for [12:36] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) Raises hand [12:36] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [12:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is fair, as we do have a broad range of subjects to teach, but I think there are some things to be learnt from the success of Hogwarts and why it had such fanfare, and I don't think there is too much shame in taking some inspiration from idea's we feel can help with the school [12:38] Clover (sarria.yaffle): Well it's more that i just dont think magic should be such a huge focus that there's a whole bunch of specific classes dedicated to different smaller aspects of it XD [12:38] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): -raises hand- [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty? [12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we shouldn't overcomplicate things too. I think a few dedicated class and clubs will be fine, but we don't need to go all out on the types. What I am trying to say I guess is that maybe looking at how hogwarts does it is fine, but lifting it 1:1 would not be a very good plan. I also don't think there needs to be a dedicated council to look out for magic abuse? Seems like it'd be easy enough to set up rules like any other for it and treat it as that kind of offense [12:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My view is that, having an institute of magic kind of helps to make it fun, and gives it a little bit of validation and helps the story along for those people, ofcourse, we run the risk of it becoming too much the focus of the school, but I feel there might be more harm in leaving it too loose and without story than proving too much story and background to it personally [12:42] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Brain? [12:42] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand [12:45] BrainBaffled: Right, so to cover that part even further, i'm all for limiting powers and having specific ones on a board or something like that, people who want powers can pick just one from those so that we don't end up with kitsune etc. one class should be enough to focus on powers for the people that are into it, but it should indeed not take over the whole school. [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((Nobody else raise hand after this now, I'd like to say some stuff myself and make a proposal)) [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, bunnerz? [12:46] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): by taking influence from hogwarts, i didnt mean pulling every class and teaching it here, i meant for those who teach the magic could maybe use the spells and charms from the Harry potter series because, like Rei-pyon said, the fandom is big, and the spells would be widely know, and easier to remember, and you would have recipies (which im sure can be found on google) for potions, and have a type of cirriculum instead of having to come up with stuff from scratch? [12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): My opinion on it is, we can take inspiration and idea's on how hogwarts came up with their potions etc, but we should not copy their spells, ingrediants etc, we want to create something unique and new, otherwise people might aswell teleport over to that hogwarts sim that's also in secondlife x3c [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, Minty o3o [12:48] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): fair enough. [12:49] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah I think it's important to be your own thing. But that's not what I wanted to talk about. Regarding this magic council, I am not sure what their job would be however? Just a group of hall monitors that happen to be also good at using magic? I don't know what you imagine under this group of people [12:51] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Right, I think that the main purpose would be figuring out the physics behind the potions and what the rules of magic are etc are, I don't expect the council would have much workload on a day to day basis other than perhaps planning out and running the magic classes and magic events [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, finally, Viya [12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): so its more of a ooc group that sets everything up? [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu) (( ^ a mix)) [12:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i was just gonna ask if something like alchemy is tied up as "magic" or if its like, something in between magic and technology and is its own thing? by alchemy i mean dealing with elements and stuff, not potion making [12:53] Clover (sarria.yaffle): I think unless we're going way far into the magic side of things, that would just be chemistry o3o [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think this would be something discussed amongst the magic council, right? [12:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Perhaps magic should be more originated spiritually, then physics/chemical [12:54] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds like it [12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i dont think science would be exactly as it is in RL though due to the existence of magic o.O i feel like a chemistry class thats like what we already have in rl would just seem out of place x3 [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay so lemme intervene with everyone here and make a proposal [12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): olkie [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): okie* [12:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Here's what I think should happen: [12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, as we now have a basis for what we're trying to achieve with powers, and a rough idea of how it should be run and managed, we should branch off this magic council/magic institute thing, which should hold it's own meeting and have it's own representatives, so that the Character Workshop can focus back on slice of life stuff and the workshops themselves [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I propose that, seeing as Clover and Viya are the most into magic and most likely to thrive at this, they will be in charge of the new magic council and running the meetings with us, which we can all attend and be a part of, and that is how the powers trial will continue [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): How does everyone feel about that? [12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand related [12:58] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi) gives thumbs up [12:58] Quest Sable (waroop.bravin): SeemsGood [12:59] BrainBaffled: so we can discuss something else at these meetings? good :3 [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Viya? [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): should it just focus on magic though? i was thinking could also focus on the level of technology in this school's universe, and how it interacts, or doesnt interact, with the magic side of the world [12:59] BrainBaffled: i still think it should be powers class not magic class [13:00] BrainBaffled: or "power physics" [13:00] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Are we still split on 3 major races, beastman (furry), humans and nature spirits (fairyies, kitsune, animal ear people) ? Just asking [13:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to take the wheel here and for now say that it is just for magic, and we can think about powers at a later date as part of the council meetings [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, will Clover be happy with this arrangement? :3 [13:01] Clover (sarria.yaffle): sounds fine to me o3o [13:01] Viya (furri.hiereichler): alright, thats all i needed to know x3 im up to task [13:01] Izanami (alexdom.dagostino): clover as magic teacher ! [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Cool so what's gonna happen is [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am not fully on board with this idea [13:02] BrainBaffled: neither am i. [13:02] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): whats the difference between "powers" and "magic" ?! [13:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): in the coming weeks I'll figure out with Clover and Viya when these meetings are gonna run, and I'm going to announce things, and we can continue the magic/powers discussion in those meetings [13:03] Clover (sarria.yaffle): realistically? nothing, just different names for the same underlying thing really I think. just because it's called magic doesnt mean it's nothing but wizardy spellcasting [13:03] Viya (furri.hiereichler): guys its not a class, its a split of function of the character workshop, its an OOC lore development and event organization thing [13:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think there is a very high amount of things really foggy and unclear about this, and it appears like just pushing off the issue to another group of people that is yet again gonna be ran by us and stray people that only show up like once a year? [13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): split off function* [13:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): clover and i are stray people? o3o [13:05] BrainBaffled: *raises hand* [13:05] RoyallyJinxed: Again I think we're overcomplicating things [13:05] RoyallyJinxed: (≧ω≦) [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to say we'll see how it goes. This is a trial after all [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Okay, so, to conclude today's meeting, we've got a pretty good basis to start with the potions physics thing, innate powers are not a thing, gained powers are still in question, but we're going to start seperate meetings to continue magic/powers discussion [13:07] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): no innate? ok, everyone is a human again :P [13:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I don't feel like the questions about that new group are really all that concluded yet [13:07] RoyallyJinxed: found the kitsune goddess :3c [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): We will talk about races next workshop meeting I think as that is still also in question [13:08] RoyallyJinxed: I don't understand why they need their own meeting, it's such a small thing to cover [13:08] RoyallyJinxed: over complicating it >.< [13:09] BrainBaffled: still think the voting should be done again [13:09] Bunnerz (miyu.cliassi): ^ [13:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): wait..we are gonna discuss races AGAIN?...<.<... [13:09] BrainBaffled: many people joined since that vote was made [13:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): No we're not gonna waste time repeating votes over and over again, we will simply trial it and see how it runs [13:09] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it was a referrendum, not a neverendum [13:10] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i doubt the magic meetings are going to be an every week thing, probably like a monthly thing anyway [13:10] RoyallyJinxed: still [13:10] RoyallyJinxed: it's not like we don't have lots of time in these meetings [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Reisen is going to say for now this meeting is finished, and I look forward to seeing everyone at the first magic committee meeting :3 [13:10] Clover (sarria.yaffle): probably just a once or twice thing really, as i'll bang up some lore about just what magic is and get people together to see what they think [13:11] Tsukiomura entered the region (1160.46 m). [13:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, I know that there are a lot of questions on everyones minds, and hopefully over the coming weeks we can sort them out and adress them, but if I do say so myself, personally, I came into this meeting pessimistic, and now I am feeling optimistic :3W

#kokoro-academy #character-workshop #magic #powers

Character Workshop 18/06/2016

Summary

We begun tackling how magic/powers will be implemented following the powers vote

We found it was desirable to discourage combat roleplay outside of outlets specifically for those things such as clubs etc so as to keep the school’s slice of life feeling.

Transcript

#charater-workshop #kokoro-academy #powers #roleplay

Tea & Cake 17/06/2016

Summary

We had a discussion about the possibility of a student council, and discussed it’s roles, how it would be managed, how we would handle and cycle the members of the council, etc.

An idea was briefly discussed about a school year actually being a half year in real life, and we decided that we would talk about this idea more next meeting

We also briefly discussed the possibility of alternating Tea & Cake meet up times to allow people with different timezones to attend some meetings

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Tea & Cake 10/06/2016

Summary

We spent the meeting talking about types of big events that can happen at the school

We also briefly talked about some admin-related stuff at the school, and who to contact if trouble arises/announcing a couple of new admins

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Character Workshop 04/06/2016

Summary

Today we had fun telling lots of different stories about how Kokoro came to be!

In the transcript, you can read some of those stories!~

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Tea & Cake 03/06/2016

Summary

The topic was Classes at Kokoro.

We decided that some normal school classes were possible but may not make for fun RP (Maths, English etc) and that these classes would be better off existing as a Roleplay event that we acknowledge happened but don’t actually play out.

We wanted to totally avoid classes in which the teacher dictates and the students just sit there.

Other more fun classes like magic, science etc were more likely to be roleplayed, we decided that roleplay classes and non roleplaying classes can both co-exist at Kokoro.

We discussed rewarding players for good roleplay and various ways these rewards can be done - One of the idea’s that was popular was the ‘build a degree’ idea in which students can make up a course and ‘graduate’ at the school, by completing their course, and engaging in a Ceremony with other students.

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Tea & Cake 27/05/2016

Overview

A Change of Plans for Reisen: Finish the current pipeline of props, and start dedicating time to the Uniforms

We discussed the need and possible ways that players can ‘progress’ at Kokoro

Transcript

[12:01] Reisen: school belll [12:01] Minty Elsa: bibububuuu [12:01] Minty Elsa: Meeting starto [12:01] Matthew Burton Cole Baily is online. [12:02] Reisen squeaks [12:02] Reisen: ah, minty has taken the stage o3o [12:02] ??s??? vocaloid: Sorry about that [12:02] Minty Elsa: I am the stagepanda [12:02] Vincent Wolf: upstaged panda? [12:02] Minty Elsa: I dunno if that person up there will join us [12:02] Minty Elsa: no just the stagepanda [12:02] Minty Elsa: I will do magic [12:02] Reisen: not worrying about that person [12:02] Clover: propapanda [12:03] Minty Elsa: Okay so welcome to the small round that has gathered today. Today's meeting will be an opportunity to ask all the little questions that you are burning to ask! [12:03] DarthBunny Petrov: propane panda [12:04] Reisen: reisen has a question [12:04] Minty Elsa: Yes Reisen [12:05] Reisen: since the whole like [12:06] Reisen: plan to open the school this summer is no longer the case with the sim opening, and my time is gonna be limited whilst I make funds etc.. what would people consider highest priority for the school right now? o3o [12:07] Minty Elsa: Ahh a question for the group [12:07] Minty Elsa: suggestions? Please raise your hands [12:07] Clover handup [12:07] Minty Elsa: Clover [12:08] Clover: I think like, cementing what kind of setting the school actually takes place in should be a pretty high priority, since in the end that will determine some of the stuff that gets built, and will help people prepare characters ahead of time [12:08] Minty Elsa: I think that might be something we will take care of tomorrow by chance [12:09] Zoey Hadazuma is online. [12:09] Reisen raises elbow [12:09] Vincent Wolf: Btw, just how far is the school itself build? I know we have a pool and a classroom here...but is the school itself mostly done? [12:09] Minty Elsa: There will be a few more specialized rooms. Would Reisen like to elaborate? [12:10] Reisen: sure [12:10] Reisen: in terms of like [12:11] Reisen: making props and stuff, for the school, where 0% is there is nothing to put in the school, not even walls, and 100% is all the rooms built and fully decorated [12:12] Reisen: I'd say we're atleast past the halfway mark? maybe 60%? I think we could have all the rooms 'useable' without huge amounts of work now, just recently I was given a whole bunch of fresh meshes for the lab aswell [12:13] Reisen: by useable I would not mean fully decorated though, and with some prop recycling going on [12:13] Reisen: is that what Vincent meant? or am I going off on a wrong tangent x3 [12:14] Minty Elsa: I think it would help if you said what rooms are still in the need of making? [12:14] Reisen: Oooh [12:14] Vincent Wolf: No, thats fine. Props and decoration is of lesser importanace, rather i want to know how far the school usable is at this time [12:14] Vincent Wolf nods to Minty's words [12:14] Reisen: ahhh [12:15] Reisen: then more like 80% of the way, I have most of the props already, each room generally needs a few specialised props but most of the stuff is not that unique and we can recycle stuff until we start making special stuff for each room like we did with the club room [12:15] Reisen: for example [12:16] Reisen: the teachers office we can recycle the desks from the nurse's office and simply reskin those to look a little unique, and having books and general props to put around the teachers office already made [12:16] Reisen: etc o3o [12:17] Reisen: In terms of rooms that are on my mind for making [12:18] Reisen: I'd like to get maybe 3 more general classrooms, one for each wing of the corridor, and then the rest of the space we can use for specialized stuff like a music room, chemistry lab, library, to name a few things [12:18] DarthBunny Petrov: yay chemistry, explosions! [12:18] Minty Elsa: Alright [12:18] Minty Elsa: Uhh [12:18] Minty Elsa: More questions? [12:18] Clover: home economics o3o [12:19] RoyallyJinxed: ^ [12:19] Reisen: home economics [12:19] Reisen: i'm already on the edge of my chair with excitement [12:19] Vincent Wolf: thanks for the answers, Rei-chan [12:19] Reisen: :P [12:19] Clover will cook the yummiest carrot based food~ [12:19] Reisen: ! [12:19] Minty Elsa: No more questions already? [12:19] Reisen: clover is hired as head chef. -w- [12:20] Clover: Clover is already the potential magic teacher, headmaster's secretary, and gardener XD [12:20] Vincent Wolf: Well, we were still working on the "what has priority for people?" question i think...just wanted to know whats already built to get my perspective in order [12:20] Minty Elsa: Ahh yes [12:20] Minty Elsa: Minty would like to chime in [12:20] Minty Elsa: She thinks the uniforms would be nice to get into working condition, then we can already roleplay in the rooms we already have [12:20] Minty Elsa: What is the general consensus on that idea? [12:20] RoyallyJinxed: ^ [12:20] Clover: agreee [12:21] Reisen: mmm [12:21] Reisen: would people prefer I worked on the uniforms over more rooms right now? [12:21] Clover: i mean, no reason to not have.. uh.. "open beta" i guess since a lot of stuff already functions XD [12:21] Reisen: the way i see it is [12:22] Vincent Wolf: I like that..uniforms would create a feeling of "belonging" [12:22] Reisen: the uniforms are a very large task, and they will take a long time, as they need as much love put into them as pretty much the whole of the school combined xP [12:22] Vincent Wolf: We can put Clover up as fashion model for the new uniforms (she takes all the jobs) [12:22] Reisen: so if I were to concentrate on the uniforms [12:22] Reisen: that would likely be all I did for quite some time [12:23] Minty Elsa: Mhh I think we will help you a lot. First we'd have to find a consensus on the design however [12:23] Reisen: reisen is quite happy to do that, she is a bit burnt out from constantly making props [12:23] Clover doesnt take the jobs, raisin keeps assigning them! XD [12:23] Viya: i would prefer uniforms then RP with what we have, rather than wait for the school to be completely done and then have to wait on uniforms [12:23] Vincent Wolf: so uniforms might be a nice change for you? [12:23] Quest Sable: Hello, did I miss anything? [12:24] Reisen: Ok so [12:24] Vincent Wolf: you missed 24min of hot bunny shows [12:24] Quest Sable: Hawt. [12:24] Minty Elsa: We were talking about what people would like to be the next focus for now. We are on the topic of uniforms [12:25] Reisen: here's the thing, I think the uniforms will take atleast a few months, more than 3 probably [12:25] Quest Sable: OK, ty [12:25] Reisen: they are a very big job I think [12:25] Quest Sable: My question is this: Will uniforms be madnatory? [12:26] Reisen: School uniforms will be mandatory, official ones not [12:26] Reisen: but we're gonna try to make the official ones so that people -want- to wear the official ones o3o [12:27] Vincent Wolf: special bunny-ears add-on with each uniform? [12:27] DarthBunny Petrov: just grow your own bunny ears, like I did o.o [12:27] DarthBunny Petrov wiggles her ears [12:27] Clover: Will the official uniform be provided or will it be a purchase? [12:27] Minty Elsa: I think 3 months is an overestimate [12:27] Minty Elsa: But I will not argue that for now [12:27] Reisen: I think it is an under-estimate [12:28] Vincent Wolf: Lots of variations in uniforms is planned, might take a bit of time [12:28] Reisen: you have to consider I am also working on trying to regain my funds during this time [12:28] Vincent Wolf: Perhaps finish the current pipeline of props first, then start on uniforms [12:28] Quest Sable: Its fine and all if its a topic of discussion. But, they don't seem to be that pressing against things like Sim Events/Storylines, Classes, and the facility. [12:28] DarthBunny Petrov: and you probably also don't want to burn yourself out along the way either :o [12:29] ??s??? vocaloid: Excuse me , Something has come up. [12:29] Reisen: well, the current state of affairs is [12:30] Reisen: with the current pipeline of props I am working on the bathrooms [12:30] Reisen: I've got the stalls nearly finished and I've just to make the sinks and then they are done [12:30] Reisen: I gave some work to someone who was keen to help the school recently, to make some science lab props [12:31] Zero is online. [12:31] Reisen: and, I'd really like those to be put to use asap, I don't want them to think that they've given the props to me and they'll never get used, so maybe minty can help me with that and do some prop texturing for me? [12:31] Minty Elsa: Obviously I am firmly inclined to help with anything you need [12:31] Reisen: :3 [12:31] Reisen: Ok at Quest [12:31] Minty Elsa: Though texturing should be easy for you too! :P [12:32] Reisen: I think this is a good point [12:32] Vincent Wolf: well, finish pipeline first and then do uniforms for a change of pace ,while lettiing others work on specialized props :P [12:33] Reisen: my opinion is that, the Character Workshop committee that we are in the process of starting up, should hopefully be a good engine for figuring out the roleplay stuff like Stories, characters etc [12:34] Reisen: my plan is that with these meetings we will be able to figure that stuff out, and it should give people a chance to get involved in that process, too [12:34] Minty Elsa: Reisen [12:34] Reisen: Yus? [12:34] Minty Elsa: I believe clover asked if the uniforms will be purchase or free of charge [12:34] Reisen: Ooh [12:35] Reisen: My opinion of it is that these uniforms should be free, but that does lead me onto something actually that was suggested to me the other day [12:36] Reisen: What was suggested was that, the uniform could be a 'reward' for enrolment at the school [12:36] Clover: no reason to give it out to non menbers yes [12:36] Clover: *members [12:36] Vincent Wolf: Uniforms that detach if you dont have the proper group active, hehe :P [12:36] Robin Ivory is online. [12:36] Clover: at the same time, if the uniform is provided to students, I don't think there is any reason it shouldn't be mandatory barring special cases where it just plain doesn't fit the person's avatar [12:37] Reisen: Reisen does not want complaints about people turning naked when they teleported out of the school to a PG sandbox x3 [12:37] DarthBunny Petrov: that can be fairly annoying if you wanna adjust your av in another sim, where you might need another gruop active to rez stuff [12:37] Minty Elsa: The uniform will be advertising in itself too [12:37] Vincent Wolf was joking ofcourse :P [12:37] Minty Elsa: so people will be allowed to wear it :P [12:37] DarthBunny Petrov: the uniform will flash bright ads when worn in sims outside this one :p [12:38] DarthBunny Petrov: 'I enrolled in Kokoro Academy and all I got was this awesome uniform' [12:38] Clover: i mean, if they had to buy it I could see saying "you have to wear *A* uniform not neccesarily the one Rei made" [12:38] Clover: but with it being provided what reason should there be to not say they have to wear that one? [12:38] Clover: Uniforms are meant to be.. well... uniform after all [12:38] Minty Elsa: I think that is a good point [12:39] Minty Elsa: I would like a more uniform uniform look too to be honest :P [12:39] Clover: like i said, barring avatars where the model plain doesnt fit on them [12:39] ??Muffin is offline. [12:39] H????? is online. [12:39] DarthBunny Petrov used to be in a star trek sim, where everyone had a different style of uniform, it wasn't very uniform at all [12:39] ??Muffin is online. [12:39] Clover is reminded of Star Trek Online XD [12:39] Reisen: hmm [12:40] DarthBunny Petrov: in STO it doesn't bother me, my away team and my captain match, that's all that matters :p [12:41] Reisen: my opinion was that people might not like it if we forced them to wear one uniform, so we could change the lore to make different uniforms more acceptable.. but if people would prefer we just had the one uniform I am pretty open to that too tbh [12:41] VAGINASONG is offline. [12:41] Quest Sable: I think if we had a "strict" school colors it may help those that the uniform doesn't fit for some. So lets say our school colors were black, red, and white. You'll be hard pressed to not find a school uniform that isn't black or a suit that doesn't have a tie of those colors. [12:42] Quest Sable: strict school colors policy for uniforms* [12:42] Clover: I just feel if people are wearing different "uniforms" it's less uniforms and more a dress code [12:42] VAGINASONG is online. [12:42] Reisen: my original idea with the lore was [12:43] Reisen: the people who wear the kokoro academy uniform are the people who go to the school full time, and everyone else was exchange students from around the world [12:43] Clover: oho :o [12:44] Quest Sable: Sure, that works. [12:44] Clover: Wearing the uniform of their home school but some kind of kokoro badge? [12:44] Reisen: that was my idea anyway [12:44] Reisen: reisen would be pretty cool with having all her students wearing one uniform to be honest x3 [12:44] Zoey Hadazuma is offline. [12:44] Reisen: but it was more trying to accomodate everyone else x3 [12:45] Clover: I think even if that is the case most people would end uop wanting to be students here like you originally thought :3 [12:45] Quest Sable: Well if someone walks in here with a Niramyth trying to be a kawaii anime girl you'll need some bigger sizes [12:45] Minty Elsa: Hmm I think that guest student think can work. I think the uniform just has to be good enough that pepole would only want to wear another in fringe cases [12:45] Vincent Wolf: as you are planning to bring out multiple variants of your own unifomr (i.e. open coat, closed, etc), I doubt many wouldnt want to wear your uniform :P [12:45] Clover: as long as I can continue to wear a clover I am happy~ [12:46] Minty Elsa: We have a strict anti-clover policy [12:46] Reisen: in the long term I'd like to bring about variants yes, but each article of clothing will need time love and care ne [12:46] Clover: ;-; [12:46] Minty Elsa: you will have to wear a mintleaf [12:46] Clover will wear 4 mintleafs and pretend =3= [12:46] Minty Elsa: cheater [12:46] Minty Elsa: Okay another question or do we want to talk more about the uniforms? [12:47] Minty Elsa: Anyone? [12:49] Reisen: Ok so, basically when I get around to updating the plan it's gonna be all uniform XP [12:50] Minty Elsa: Deciding on a design would help :P [12:50] Clover: Rei's new goal: make all the cute girls cuter [12:50] DarthBunny Petrov likes cute [12:50] Reisen: Clover in a kokoro uniform ? . <3 [12:50] Reisen: aw it only works on the first one [12:50] Minty Elsa: Minty too, you know [12:50] Minty Elsa: Okay next topic [12:51] Reisen: minty will look like a bum no matter what i put her in :V [12:51] Minty Elsa: Next topic [12:51] DarthBunny Petrov giggles [12:51] Minty Elsa: Uhhh [12:51] Minty Elsa: Okay [12:51] Vincent Wolf: please dont forget the boys, like most creators on SL <.< [12:51] Quest Sable: ^ [12:51] Minty Elsa: What are the plans about classes. Is there any specific class people really want to see? [12:52] RoyallyJinxed: *Whisper* Skinny pants option for dudes pls the baggy ones kill me [12:52] Reisen: reisen will make a super special uniform for the boys, to encourage more boys at kokoro! :3 [12:52] Vincent Wolf: Yaaay... [12:52] Quest Sable: Not necessarily. I have more of a concern about the length of classes. 40 minutes to an hour tops. [12:52] Minty Elsa: Yes of course [12:52] Reisen: noooo [12:52] Tessa Monet is offline. [12:52] Reisen: 3 hour monotone lectures for everyone, no moving! :3c [12:53] Clover: English class! [12:53] Quest Sable: Otherwise, people can teach whatever they want really. I also think there should be an incentive to actually going to class. [12:53] Quest Sable: You don't see that often and if there isn't one I don't think people will attend. [12:53] RoyallyJinxed: you get counted as absent from the class if you don't pay attention [12:53] Vincent Wolf: Dude, you go to class for the cute girls ofcourse [12:53] RoyallyJinxed: (-^??^-) [12:53] Minty Elsa: Ahh an incentive about going to class. How would you like to see that realized? [12:53] DarthBunny Petrov: cookies! [12:53] Reisen: carrot cake :3c [12:53] Vincent Wolf: movies! [12:54] Clover: RP grades! [12:54] Vincent Wolf: unlocking new magic spells! [12:54] Minty Elsa: guys [12:54] Quest Sable: To be honest, I have no planned idea. Experience points, yeah movies, chances for character development, RP grades to encourage RP, hell you could do a storyline around Exam Week [12:54] Reisen: are we gonna test our students o3o [12:54] Minty Elsa: Ohh we could [12:54] Quest Sable: Yes, we need to have an Exam Week Storyline [12:54] Quest Sable: pls [12:54] Minty Elsa: It is hard to say [12:54] Vincent Wolf: If tests happen, why do i imagine Rei-chan with a whip <.< [12:54] Minty Elsa: Make an incentive that does not act as a punishment if oyu don't go [12:55] Minty Elsa: we all have been in school and know how annoying it can be [12:55] DarthBunny Petrov: how would you reward someone for rping they're bored in class for an hour? :p [12:55] Reisen: we're gonna have [12:55] Quest Sable: Classes don't have to be boring. [12:55] Clover: I think, in character, if we were to be semi realistic about it, people that skip classes frequently would be viewed as delinquents by the other students [12:55] Vincent Wolf: attentding classes also raises your academics attribute :P [12:56] Clover: which is both an incentive and disincentive depending on what kind of character you play [12:56] Minty Elsa: If you have classes we also have to account for international people [12:56] Reisen: increasingly higher demanding OFSTED inspections, and bigger exam grade results, and increasingly more paperwork for teachers to get through, and decreasing salary [12:56] Reisen: just like a real school! [12:56] RoyallyJinxed: I've just thought of an easy-ish room to build :o [12:56] RoyallyJinxed: the library ~ [12:56] Minty Elsa: Guys stay serious for a bit [12:56] Minty Elsa: its 6th lesson for me too [12:57] Hally Ormidale is online. [12:57] Quest Sable: I just think the school should build in an incentive system. We don't need to figure it out today, but it would help retain interest in classes. [12:58] Minty Elsa: I think that is something we can take away from today and maybe discuss in a later meeting, it is certainly a good idea [12:58] Vincent Wolf: Raise Academics, get better test results ,get better dates? [12:58] Vincent Wolf: thats how games work that i play :P [12:58] Clover: I personally think any incentives should remain entirely in character, and be a social thing between players [12:58] Quest Sable: Sim Dating 101 [12:58] Yochiru Seda is offline. [12:58] Reisen: Reisen is not the endgame reward!! [12:58] Minty Elsa: I agree [12:59] Clover: because if you try to tie class attendance to anything meaningful you are discouraging players who want to play a Banchou type character [12:59] Vincent Wolf: Reisen only available in secret dlc route [12:59] Minty Elsa: I agree with Clover. Any kind of reward would be entirely for the fun of it [12:59] Quest Sable: I agree with the first part Clover, but I disagree somewhat with the second. [12:59] SinoRaven is offline. [13:00] Reisen: reisen thinks banchou type characters don't live to be rewarded by the system x3c [13:00] Clover: Yes but that's in character, rather than rewarding the players for coming to play [13:00] Quest Sable: I think you end up having a "trade-off" for people who want to be a banchou character by incentivising them differently. Banchous may not care about GPAs, but they may care about gaining "street cred" or something. [13:00] Minty Elsa: I think one thing that could work would be some sort of token system. You attend a class and you get a token that you can turn in for something fun. In turn if you are a delinquent you get to attend detention for tokens [13:00] RoyallyJinxed: maybe the more classes you attend, the higher your grades get and the higher you get on a ranking board that could be put in [13:00] RoyallyJinxed: friendly competition lol [13:01] Reisen: lmao [13:01] RoyallyJinxed: They tend to do that with exam results in japan? [13:01] Minty Elsa: Ohh that sounds really cute actually [13:01] Minty Elsa: yes they do [13:01] Reisen: I can just imagine a discussion between two delinquents [13:01] Minty Elsa: I think Jinx is onto something [13:01] Vincent Wolf: they do in games anyway :P [13:01] Reisen: showing off how many detentions they got [13:01] Clover: I'm not sure that in general "game mechanics" are the kind of thing that need to be in a social RP x.x [13:01] Quest Sable: Yeah something like that would be cool [13:01] Minty Elsa: And delinquents would brag about detention :P [13:02] Clover: otherwise we may as well star breaking out our D20s and rolling for initiative [13:02] Vincent Wolf: then Clover the student council president shows up and uses sparkle-magic on the deliquents [13:02] Quest Sable: I agree with you 100% Clover. But a fun social aspect couldn't hurt and I think most people at this table would advocate that. [13:02] Clover: I'm the student council president now too? D: [13:02] Reisen: nooo [13:02] Reisen: clover is my [13:02] Reisen: sexy secretary [13:02] Reisen: with her red outfit o3o [13:02] Vincent Wolf: Thats red clover...blue clover is student president! [13:03] Reisen: red vs blue x3c [13:03] Clover feels like she needs a time turner to accomplish everything! [13:03] DarthBunny Petrov: and what role does four-minty clover have? [13:03] Minty Elsa is offline. [13:03] miKa??? is offline. [13:03] RoyallyJinxed: the ranking on that board could go up if they do little tasks too, like cleaning the classroom :o [13:03] ??n? is offline. [13:03] Reisen: I think minty is struggling with her connection [13:03] Vincent Wolf: Now it sounds like Hogworth houses...earn points for your House [13:03] Nallfurry is offline. [13:03] Heidi Chung is offline. [13:04] Hally Ormidale is offline. [13:04] Aeka Utani is offline. [13:04] Bro. Valor Kitsuyagi is offline. [13:04] VAGINASONG is offline. [13:04] ClFµd Güa?d?a? is offline. [13:04] Vincent Wolf: or whatever Harry Potter school's name was again [13:04] H????? is offline. [13:04] DarthBunny Petrov: hogwarts [13:04] Hally Ormidale is online. [13:04] Minty Elsa is online. [13:04] Bro. Valor Kitsuyagi is online. [13:04] Clover: wb mintybutt~ [13:04] Minty Elsa: Okay we are back [13:04] Reisen: Hogworth house XD [13:04] Quest Sable: But, how and who would keep track of who goes up and down on the board? [13:04] Minty Elsa: the bell does not end the class, I do! [13:05] Clover: weird, hal and jinx died at practically the same time as minty [13:05] DarthBunny Petrov: they're secret alts o.o [13:05] Minty Elsa: It wouldn't resolve my DNS anymore [13:05] Viya: and my friends aeka and tai [13:05] Viya: at the same time as well [13:05] Vincent Wolf: keep track? experience hud from Reisen [13:05] VAGINASONG is online. [13:05] Reisen: perhaps a dns server somewhere in the world went down for a moment [13:05] ??n? is online. [13:05] DarthBunny Petrov: senpai-hud can notice your scores [13:05] Hally Ormidale sneaks a seat. [13:06] Vincent Wolf: welcome Crow-girl [13:06] Hally Ormidale is not a crow dammit! [13:06] Quest Sable: Raven? [13:06] Minty Elsa: Mhh well I think it is something we can work on for another meeting [13:06] Reisen: Reisen has already written systems capable of displaying and storing data and stuff so it's not out of her scope [13:07] Reisen: you can long press on the school hud to see your lag o3o [13:07] Minty Elsa: Okay you guys wanna discus this now or would you rather wrap up the meeting for today? [13:07] Clover: I think if anything it should just be "RP Participation points" for participating in general [13:07] Clover: rather than for any specific things [13:07] Vincent Wolf: one with highest points at end of year gets date with Rei-chan? [13:07] Quest Sable: Is Character Workshop meeting tomorrow and will we be discussing backstory more in-depth?" [13:07] DarthBunny Petrov: 'cookies' is a nicer name for those points, and tastier [13:07] miKa??? is online. [13:08] Clover: well whatever they'd be called XD [13:08] Vincent Wolf: we acn call them...clovers....we already have a green theme going in our uniforms :P [13:08] Reisen: reisen will be a difficult reward to win :V [13:08] Vincent Wolf: Reisen has Minty Raid-boss as guard [13:09] Reisen: x3c [13:09] DarthBunny Petrov: does that boss drop epic pants? [13:09] Vincent Wolf: drops epic hoodies [13:09] Quest Sable: So no Character Workshop meeting tomorrow? [13:09] Reisen: drops the bass [13:09] Vincent Wolf: Quest, workshop tomorrow ,going into background and setting i think [13:09] Minty Elsa: No there will be a meeting tomorrow [13:09] Reisen: Uuuum, I personally can't run the character workshop tommorow [13:09] Hally Ormidale: What time will it be tomorrow? [13:09] Quest Sable: OK, thanks. [13:10] Quest Sable: Oh, ok [13:10] Reisen: Minty stop assuming things =3= [13:10] Minty Elsa: We will possibly discuss the backstory and perhaps organize a few uhh economical things [13:10] RoyallyJinxed: my internet seems to have done a died (???) [13:10] Reisen: Oi [13:10] Minty Elsa: Well I will run it you bum [13:10] Reisen: minty listen [13:10] Minty Elsa: Fine [13:10] Reisen: -w- [13:10] Aeka Utani is online. [13:10] Minty Elsa: none tomorrow? [13:10] Clover: slidepanda [13:10] Reisen: Well, ok, how about this [13:11] RoyallyJinxed: before my internet did the thing, I was talking about that possible 'ranking' system for people who attend classes for a sort of incentive? Maybe other things could contribute to it.. like doing clean up duty, attending club meetings ect [13:11] Reisen: if you guys are happy with going ahead on the meeting without me, we can go ahead, the commitee was supposed to be able to run without me anyway [13:11] Reisen: but it is not a minty in charge scenario ne :P [13:12] Minty Elsa: No faith in me, this woman [13:12] Reisen: maybe clover can help minty plan out the meeting and stuff [13:12] Clover flails [13:12] Reisen: x3c [13:12] Hally Ormidale: Clovurp, we believe in you. [13:12] Clover: Clover's plan: "sit and listen and say "I like pie" [13:12] Quest Sable: I have a notecard full of Back Story ideas. I think at least one of us can NC the meeting if its happening tomorrow and we should be able to get you a copy Resien. [13:13] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is offline. [13:13] Hally Ormidale: But what time will it be tomorrow? [13:13] Minty Elsa: Well then tomorrow we can do some basic ideas about the backstory and logistics and we will run that by Reisen when she is back [13:13] Reisen: Ok [13:14] Hally Ormidale: I have in the afternoon so I may not be able to make it. [13:14] Reisen: everyone makes a backup of the meeting transcript [13:14] Hally Ormidale: *work in [13:14] Reisen: just incase it gets forgotten by one person or they lose connection or something [13:14] Clover: oh, i do have a question [13:14] Reisen: otherwise the whole meeting is in vain :P [13:14] Reisen: yus Clover? :o [13:14] Clover: how do you change the layout of the room? :O [13:15] Reisen: of this classroom? [13:15] Clover: yeah [13:15] DarthBunny Petrov: wiggle your fingers and say the magic words [13:15] Reisen: there is a cube behind the teachers desk that acts as a switch at the moment [13:15] Heidi Chung is online. [13:15] Minty Elsa: Can I press it? [13:15] Reisen: wait until the meeting is over [13:15] Minty Elsa: meeting is concluded! [13:15] DarthBunny Petrov: hold on to your butts! [13:15] Reisen: it unsits everyone ne [13:15] Clover: *suddenly everyone is upside down* [13:16] Reisen: Ok so [13:16] Reisen: Clover and Minty are tasked with working with the commitee and whoever turns up tommorow to work on the back story [13:16] Clover: tomorrow is... saturday? [13:16] Reisen: yus [13:16] Quest Sable: Yep! [13:16] Hally Ormidale rasies a hand. [13:16] Heidi Chung is offline. [13:17] Clover: also what time [13:17] Minty Elsa: noon [13:17] Reisen: so, Saturday, 12 SLT like tea and cake [13:17] Reisen: Hally? [13:17] Hally Ormidale: Nevermind, you just answered the question. [13:17] Hally Ormidale: I didn't know when the meeting was. [13:17] H????? is online. [13:18] Reisen: is Clover ok with that arrangement? [13:18] DarthBunny Petrov: 12 SLT is a nie time [13:18] DarthBunny Petrov: nice* [13:18] Heidi Chung is online. [13:19] Hally Ormidale: I'd like a copy of the meeting if I can't make it tomorrow. My work may end up needing me to come in early. [13:19] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is online. [13:19] H????? is offline. [13:19] Minty Elsa: The logs will be publicly available like the others [13:19] Hally Ormidale: Woot. [13:20] Heidi Chung is offline. [13:20] Minty Elsa: does this conclude the meeting now? [13:20] Reisen: hold on I want to make sure Clover is ok with the arrangement [13:21] Vincent Wolf: Minty is here to stay, the meeting will never end! [13:21] Reisen: if she is even there x3 [13:21] Clover: arrangement? [13:21] Heidi Chung is online. [13:21] Reisen: Is Clover ok to help Minty run the commitee meeting tommorow? [13:22] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is offline. [13:22] Clover: i'll be here for the meeting but from what i see minty seems capeably of conducting meeting fine o3o [13:22] H????? is online. [13:22] Clover: not sure what i would contribute in that regard XD [13:23] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is online. [13:23] Heidi Chung is offline. [13:23] Reisen: just as a sanity check ne, last meeting I felt like sometimes minty gets a little lost, I think minty can handle most of it herself though ne [13:24] Minty Elsa: To be fair I just didn't want to say things that would contradict with your opinion [13:24] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is offline. [13:24] H????? is offline. [13:24] Clover: my sanity is an illusion o3o [13:24] Clover wiggles her fingers [13:24] Reisen: -w- [13:24] Reisen: Ok [13:24] Heidi Chung is online. [13:24] RoyallyJinxed: (-^??^-) [13:24] Reisen: everyone help minty make the meeting a good one okay? [13:24] DarthBunny Petrov: your fingers are an illusion too! [13:24] Minty Elsa: bum [13:25] Hally Ormidale upthumbs. [13:25] Clover: x3 [13:25] Minty Elsa: It will be a group meeting anyways [13:25] Clover: don't be a meany to minty, got it [13:26] Reisen: Reisen is sorry, reisen is just a bit worried when leaving things to other people without help or something [13:26] Minty Elsa: its ok [13:26] Minty Elsa: can we conclude the meeting? [13:26] Reisen: espescially when i'm not there if something goes wrong x3 [13:26] Clover: minty is itching to push that button :3 [13:26] DarthBunny Petrov: that kind of worrying is normal, unless you start losing sleep over it too o.o [13:26] ? ??R?a?a ??S?a???a? ? is online. [13:26] Clover: i think the meeting is pretty much over at this point and we've evolved into chatting XD [13:27] Reisen: Ok, the meeting is over then :3 [13:27] Minty Elsa whispers: GET YOUR BUMS OUTTA HERE

#kokoro-academy #tea&cake #meeting

CW Commitee Meeting 28/5/2016

(Character Workshop Commitee)

Overview

In this meeting the world Kokoro Academy exists in was discussed, and some general idea’s for backstories started to be constructed!

We ended the meeting with some homework - A story about personal growth between two or more people, as to how the school started, to compliment the school’s hearts symbols!

Transcript

#Character-Workshop #Kokoro-Academy #Secondlife #Meeting #Commitee

Tea & Cake 13/05/2016

Overview:

Talks about how the character workshop committee will operate

The first character workshop meeting is Saturday 21st!

Transcript:

[12:00] DarthBunny Petrov: and a committee to apoint committees that decide about committees [12:01] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): That would be rather neat! Yes committees on committees on committees! [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Silence silence! The bell has rung! we will now proceed with the committee [12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Reisen what are we going to do? [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): just a show of hands [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how many people here would be interested in volunteering to help run the character workshop? [12:02] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Depends on what we're exactly doing [12:03] DarthBunny Petrov: I might be interested in assisting in some way, but not actually run it [12:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we're trying to help new players get into roleplay, help them make fun characters, that sort of thing, generally 'help people in' [12:03] DarthBunny Petrov raises hand [12:04] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Yeah, what Darth said! I could help out but it wouldn't be a full time thing ;v; [12:04] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I will volunteer. So basically: You want us to assist them in fashioning a well thought out character? [12:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im too much of an RP noob myself to help [12:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I'll help out indiscriminately [12:04] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah the idea of the workshop is to get beginners into the world of rping, ne? [12:04] DarthBunny Petrov: maybe it's a good idea to ask everyone also how much experience they have with RP, personally, I have RPed for 15 years, but that's in a slow paced email style, chat/SL based RP I am a bit more nooby with [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I am not expecting that everyone who volunteers is already great at roleplay, the school is just starting out, and we are still finding our ground.. but experience will certainly help. I think we will learn together mostly [12:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Minty rped for a while too [12:07] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I've RP'd for 4-5 years. All of them on SL. Worked in management at one RP sim before. I'm better at creating events and stuff though. [12:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think Malic did too. Cocoa-san would you like to help or rather not? Then again you are busy a lot [12:08] Minami (australis): 0 exp noobcat <- [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:08] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): The guys that wanted to help last time did not show up again [12:08] Malic Tolsen: yeah im new to it too [12:08] Malic Tolsen: all I did in the past was build sets mostly [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, I think minami should still help out if she is up to it, it would be a learning experience ne :3 [12:08] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I think being new to RP is the most fun, but can be the most intimidating time since you're learning. But still it is a good fun and you'll enjoy it. [12:08] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well Reisen do you think we should start out establishing what the committee is going to do? [12:09] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): So don't worry too much. Just go into it looking to have fun and learn from those around you. [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well [12:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf) entered chat range (1.99 m). [12:09] Vincent Wolf (vwolf) entered the region (1.99 m). [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hi hi vincent :3 [12:10] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): onii-chan [12:10] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Hi there. [12:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that [12:11] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we already know our aims from our last few meetings, we came to a decision that we should aim to do different types of sessions, one is more of a giving idea's, concepts etc session, which is non judgemental and people don't actually design characters [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and the other type of session was the one where we actually design characters together, ne [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ehh [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): where did basic and advanced come from? O.o [12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I just tried to sum it up neatly to fit a line [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but that does not describe it at all x3 [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): there [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Minty also thinks that maybe the committee should be responsible for figuring out the rp background story and all that controversial stuff? [12:13] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I am just here for cake and cute girls [12:14] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3; [12:14] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that is actually a good idea [12:14] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Mh. A Backtory would be good. I think doing sim events and branching out in relation to that could create for fun events. [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, so [12:15] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): The character workshops also seem to be divided into Brainstroming and Developmental. Correct? [12:15] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Sorry continue. [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm, that's one way to put it [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:16] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think the Character workshop needs to be self-sustaining, this one is going to belong to you guys ne, it needs to be able to manage itself [12:16] Reisen (extrude.ragu): . [12:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes but for the first issues Reisen will have to attend aswell [12:16] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mhm [12:16] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): What else do you guys think the committee should be responsible for? [12:17] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but what I'm saying is, I think we should have members who are maintaining the group itself, keeping ontop of what is going on [12:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I agree [12:17] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): uhhh, maybe keeping RP active? ovo [12:17] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Do storylines and RP related issues go into one? [12:17] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ohh good point there, Kin [12:17] DarthBunny Petrov: there probably would be some overlap between people wanting to do those classes and people who are new, so welcoming new people maybe as well? [12:18] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): seeing how we have no established background yet I would say that figuring out plotlines or rather events could be something that they could help out with too [12:18] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): they kinda mix a little [12:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that [12:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the committee will need it's own meetings, to ensure that there is effective communication in the commitee and members do not feel forgotten etc [12:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): like, seperate to tea and cake [12:19] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): mhhm thought that too [12:20] DarthBunny Petrov: meetings would still need tea (and cake) [12:20] DarthBunny Petrov: (or waffles) [12:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it will be icecream meeting [12:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): did I disconnect? [12:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): waffle and icecream meetings [12:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): :P [12:21] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I have a pont about the workshops. But its a bit wordy. [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): are we just going to name all the school's meetings over food x3 [12:21] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): point* [12:21] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): u v u; [12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): are the meetings open to public or just for the committee? [12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think Kin you can get your comment in. We are an open debate forum [12:21] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): and we are being very civilized right now [12:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): so civilised -x- [12:22] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Just referring to the workshop, it seems that you still need people to handle the process. Granted this is second life so people will end up being busy, sick, bored, or etc... If you want it to be sustainable it can't be 100% dependent on people being here I believe. In the beginning stages it will be ok, but as the sim grows, we'll run into the issue of not having enough people to handle the growing number of members. So maybe have a rotating system where 3 people handle everyone on one month, then next month, a whole new group of people? Not everyone reads notecards so I'm not in favor of a guide. [12:24] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm I am not sure I quite follow... You mean a new set of "teachers" To introduce the newcomers to rping? [12:24] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Sorry I am a big dummy [12:24] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think what he means is like a supermarket [12:25] Reisen (extrude.ragu): you can't expect the weekday workers to work the weekends too [12:25] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ohh yes of course. Everything at Kokoro is on voluntary basis, ne! [12:25] Reisen (extrude.ragu): or atleast that was my interpretation of it x3 [12:27] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Yeah. People run on different schedules, both members and team leaders. People will fall through the cracks as the sim gets bigger, it happens, and it sucks. But if we want the character workshops to self-sustain we'll need to think of something in the future instead of relying too much on people who are here on a voluntary basis. [12:28] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Its a very down the road concern. As of right now, its not a problem. We're compact enough that we can handle people coming in. But again as leaders of the workshop start racking up the months they'll start to slow down. [12:29] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Does...that make sense? [12:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm I guess what you mean is that people will burn out slowly and that we should make them cycle through rather than having them get burned out on their own accord? [12:29] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Exactly. [12:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that makes perfect sense [12:30] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Opinions? [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hmm [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I didn't think about cycling leaders [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): what came to my mind was a review process [12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): to make sure things are still running ok or if intervention is needed [12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that cycling roles in the group would be a good idea, though [12:32] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): By a review process you mean like people who just glance through to see if a person's character is established sort of thing? or am I off the mark? [12:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ah no I mean [12:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): a review process of the whole committee [12:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): to make sure it is still functional [12:32] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Ah, got it, got it [12:34] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I do think though that when we have weekly classes we should cycle through teachers. So let's say we have 4 teachers so each teacher does one class a month [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): should it be just the one volunteer running a session? [12:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I mean.. it's not so much a class but a workshop, right? [12:37] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Yeah, I think one should be enough if you're doing it once a month. If anyone has questions it should be easy to handle. [12:37] DarthBunny Petrov: initially, it might be good to have at least pairs running the sessions, so they can learn from eachother too, how to run a session, and to have the sessions a bit more consistent between the different people [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I was struggling to express myself but I think Darth hit the nail on the head [12:38] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Thats actually good idea too. [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I feel like, having two people running the classes espescially during the start [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): would act as a 'fail safe' [12:39] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Would probably be better and more efficient then doing one person. [12:39] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I can get behind that. [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): if one person has wildly differing opinions on something and takes the lesson way off course, the other one can step in etc [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): atleast whilst we're starting out [12:39] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah you are right [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): as I think opinions amongst volunteers will naturally differ alot [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and communication will help alot here [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): :P [12:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how is everyone feeling about this so far? It's certainly new territory at kokoro to be setting up committee's [12:43] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I think its good. Committees should arise from necessity to get things done that NEED organization. So I don't have a problem with it. [12:43] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes I think it will be helpful. Reisen do you think we should look for volunteers elsewhere other than in the meetings? And also I think we could get the first meeting going by next week already [12:44] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think we have lost everyone else ne > < [12:44] Reisen (extrude.ragu): anyone still alive? :P [12:44] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hm? [12:45] DarthBunny Petrov lives [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think recruitment should also be something the committee is responsible for @minty [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): meetings are a good place for recruitment, but if we are able to reach people elsewhere I think we should [12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Meetings.. [12:47] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Well where else would you look aside from friends lists? [12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): what day shall we run the workshop meetings? [12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): We can run them saturdays [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Saturday maybe? [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:48] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I don't want them to run on friday cause one meeting is already tiring [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): around when is everyone most likely to be free on saturday? [12:48] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): I also vote Saturday. Probably day most people are free. [12:51] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hellooo [12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think 12 p.m like right now is fine [12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): its a good compromise between america and europe [12:52] DarthBunny Petrov: eumerica [12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay so upon clearing of what to expect from the committee [12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Raise your hands if you wish to volunteer [12:52] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu) will help run things [12:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ne I think everyone tabbed out or something [12:53] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): u v u [12:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Minami, Malic, Mio, Viya, Vincent [12:53] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin) raises hand [12:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu): are you still there? [12:54] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): yis [12:54] Malic Tolsen: yeah [12:54] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): i listen, but in silence [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): -x-; [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im still here yeah [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im just [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): trying not to die from this heat @_@ [12:55] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): If we don't join now, do we have the option to later? [12:55] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but i think 12SLT is good for saturday since no work or school for most [12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that once we have our initial group together it might be hard for new members to join whilst we are still setting things up [12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I would prefer if people try it and decide it is not for them [12:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): rather than join halfway through us setting up, and we have to go back and repeat everything [12:56] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Thats true [12:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): (I will still endeavour to do that anyway) [12:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but it is a inconvenience ne [12:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): i guess we lost minami [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well [12:58] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Eeehhh... How will we know whether or not it's for us if we don't try it out first? @_@ [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): lets say that [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that's what I mean [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I would rather people try it first x3 [12:58] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Well you can still drop out afterwards. And I think we tried to cover what to expect as well as we could [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok [12:59] L i ? n (dewi.fairlady) entered the region (2630.40 m). [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): so, character workshop meeting.. our first one, next week on saturday, 12 SLT? [12:59] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Sounds good [12:59] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Yup ypu [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ^_^ [13:00] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay what else do we need to discuss [13:00] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Alright, well. I think I'll test the waters and see if I can handle it or not :0 [13:00] KK (nzkk) entered the region (860.07 m). [13:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Um, give me a minute, I'm being called, I'll try to be fast, minty can take over for a minute x3 [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay next discussion point: Superiority of red pandas versus regular pandas [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Everyone that agrees Raise your hand [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): everyone that disagrees, please prepare to be terminated [13:01] DarthBunny Petrov raises a hand [13:02] Kin Sable (waroop.bravin): Red pandas are the bestest [13:02] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): good attitude [13:02] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think we are actually just about done. We can open up the round for a couple of open questions if you'd like. Anyone has something to ask still? [13:02] DarthBunny Petrov: regular pandas are just lazy fat beasts that don't even know how to make babies anymore [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok back [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): .. [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): honestly x3 [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): right so [13:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): everyone who can, needs to turn up on saturday, for the first character workshop committee meeting ever :3 [13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i shall try :o [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I will try to find some more people to come along too, since not many people made the meeting today [13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): *still hasnt decided which avatar to use for RP here* [13:05] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Ehh you mean everyone that wants to volunteer or just everyone? [13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im so fickle -.- [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think everyone should come to atleast the first few, it'll help them decide if they want to volunteer ne [13:06] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Hmm okay [13:06] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I am just worried that it might end up being a bit chaotic like the last time we tried to discuss something RP related [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hoki [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): in which case, I think that about covers it ne, we shall run our first meeting on saturday next week :o

Tea & Cake 06/05/2016

Overview:

Sim upgrade plans underway

Opening period delayed, but new things for people to do meanwhile regardless

Character workshop to be started soon

Transcript:

12:01] Haruka: So, the rebels apparently have a base on Hoth. [12:01] Reisen: Ok, welcome everyone, the meeting is starting now :3 [12:01] RoyallyJinxed: (-^??^-) [12:01] Saki Lotte: i made my av AND made it before you! [12:01] Jaric00n is offline. [12:01] Saki Lotte: @viya [12:02] Reisen: So, today, I have an announcement to make, and I'm not sure whether it's going to make you guys annoyed at me, or excited x3; [12:02] Haruka: You're pregnant? :D [12:02] Vincent Wolf: I am innocent!.... [12:02] Reisen: No! XD [12:02] Kit Lyons: And this is why using protection is import- oh. [12:02] Reisen: Ok, so [12:03] Reisen: we've reached a point in the sims development where [12:04] Reisen: after more than a year with this homestead, we're finally starting to run out of prims for building on a regular basis, and i'm constantly having to optimise things.. [12:04] Reisen: And to put things into a little bit of perspective for you guys [12:04] Reisen: we've reached a point where, avatar capacity, is maxxed out [12:05] Reisen: we have a capacity for 14 people on sim, as a homestead [12:05] Reisen: currently, with all you guys here, we're at capacity [12:05] Reisen: nobody can enter the sim right now [12:05] Saki Lotte: 12/14 [12:05] Reisen: ah, someone just left x3 [12:05] .?. ??? .?.: (???) [12:05] Kit Lyons: So we're talking about upgrading to the next tier for a sim then? [12:05] Reisen: but anyway [12:05] Vincent Wolf: eh..thought homesteads were 20 people [12:05] Reisen: Yes, my point is.. it's time. [12:06] RoyallyJinxed: (-O ? O-) [12:06] Haruka: I'm ready for death. [12:06] Haruka: It's okay. [12:06] .?. ??? .?.: It's time to STOP [12:06] Vincent Wolf: bathroom break? [12:06] Reisen: x3; [12:06] Saki Lotte: I dont have a hammer [12:06] unico Bailey is offline. [12:06] Haruka: The cake was poisoned. [12:06] Reisen: now.. [12:06] DarthBunny Petrov didn't touch the cake yet [12:06] Kit Lyons: I believe Kokoro academy need more than a 14 person cap. [12:07] Reisen: Here's the rough outline of the plan [12:07] Matt Gonzalez is offline. [12:07] Reisen: I will, this time next month, be purchasing us, a full commercial sim [12:08] .?. ??? .?.: yey! [12:08] Reisen: Our prim limit will increase from 3,500 to 15,000 [12:08] Reisen: and our avatar capacity will be a lot higher than 15 aswell [12:08] Kit Lyons: Do you require donations? [12:08] Reisen: I do not, however [12:09] Reisen: This is a big upgrade, it hits my pockets hard, it will cost me ~£800 as I plan to buy a sim, and buy it down to grandfathered sim rate whilst that oppurtunity is still with us [12:09] DarthBunny Petrov was aboutto mention that grandfathered rate [12:10] Gerael: good day everyone~ [12:10] DarthBunny Petrov: for a single simy ou plan to keep online for a long time, it's really really worth it [12:10] .?. ??? .?.: Welcome c: [12:10] Kit Lyons: Grandfathered rate? Did I miss something? [12:10] Reisen: I'm going to have to make some sacrifices, I'm selling off some of my gear even which I never normally do as I'm a massive horder x3 [12:10] Reisen: but [12:11] Reisen: here's where you might be annoyed at me [12:11] DarthBunny Petrov: Kit, for 600 USD, until september, you can 'buy down' a full sim, so it's 200 USD/month instead of 300 [12:11] Renoki is offline. [12:11] Reisen: because this is a big increased ongoing cost [12:12] Kit Lyons: Thanks Darth! [12:12] Haruka spits out her tea [12:12] Haruka: 800 SQUID [12:13] Reisen: the opening date will have to change. I will want to dedicate some time to my SL shop, so as to get back some of my losses. I can afford to run the sim without doing so, but I'd like to regain my losses ne x3 [12:13] Gerael: the best part about getting a fullsim is you can then buy homesteads and expand kokoro academy as needed :3 [12:13] .?. ??? .?.: Does this mean I need to cancel the festival? (°?°) [12:13] Haruka raises her hand [12:14] Reisen: Haruka? [12:14] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (56) there is 7 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [12:14] Haruka: Yus. This opening date - Is this when the sim is 100% done or when enough is done to meet the bare minimum requirement for RP to ensue? [12:14] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (53) there is 7 minutes until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [12:15] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (55) there is 6 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [12:15] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (51) there is 6 minutes until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [12:15] Reisen: I think the opening date will be when we have enough of the school up and running to call it open [12:15] Reisen: I doubt the school will ever be 100% finished, it's more of a constant project ne [12:16] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (56) there is 5 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [12:16] Reisen: here is what I'm thinking though [12:16] Haruka nods [12:16] Mizu Voledarski is online. [12:16] Robin Ivory is online. [12:16] Reisen: just because we're not open, does not mean we cannot have things for people to do [12:16] Haruka: ^^^ [12:16] RoyallyJinxed raises hand [12:16] Reisen: perhaps if I help get the Character Workshop up and running [12:17] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) User Minty Elsa will have their objects returned in 4 minutes and 30 seconds. [12:17] Reisen: people can start practising roleplay together, and we can like, reherse and stuff, and people can do some community building whilst the school is being built [12:17] Reisen: RJ? [12:17] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) User Minty Elsa will have their objects returned in 4 minutes. [12:18] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) User Minty Elsa will have their objects returned in 3 minutes and 30 seconds. [12:18] RoyallyJinxed: Is the school still gonna be in the sky with moving to a full sim? Just I remember the issue of prims used to make a nice backdrop being a concern but it kinda eliminates that [12:18] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) There are now enough prims left in the sim. [12:18] Hanako Kashiwagi is online. [12:19] Vincent Wolf: Keeping the school split in parts will help in lag [12:19] Reisen: I plan to keep the school on floating islands, yes [12:19] Reisen: however [12:20] Reisen: When we move, we're gonna have alot more prims than we did before [12:20] Ravesn is offline. [12:20] .?. ??? .?.: \o/ [12:20] Reisen: I'm thinking that perhaps, at a later point, it will be possible, to add a new island to the complex [12:20] .?. ??? .?. raises hand [12:21] Reisen: and we can start to think of having some 'afterschool' buildings [12:21] Reisen: perhaps cafe, dorms, etc [12:21] Reisen: mio? [12:21] Ravesn is online. [12:22] .?. ??? .?.: Reeiii, will there be a residential area/town perhaps? For more RP/OOC activities for people who don't attend kokoro? Or maybe they do and just like the extra travel experience? Maybe for characters who live with their parents/grandparents or something ' v ' [12:22] RoyallyJinxed: ^^^^^ [12:22] Reisen: mmm, this brings me back to the dorms [12:24] Reisen: I think that, we should not overestimate, how many more prims the new sim will give us, and so, there cannot be too many dorms/residential stuff, and we should perhaps try to limit it to people who contribute to the sim so as to make sure they are put to good use :3 [12:24] Kin Sable: raises foot [12:25] Reisen: but there will definitely be some, I feel that having maybe 8 or 10 in the new island is not unreasonable [12:25] Reisen: Kin? [12:26] Kin Sable: I understand that a residency area can be ok if done well, but if we learn from another RP sim, we should avoid dorms and rentals that hinge too much on being private areas people go off to and avoid RP altogether. I don't know if there are plans for rental areas, but if too much focus is put on the town or rentals to the point of where other people can't RP with you it can hurt the RP experience. [12:27] Minty Elsa: good point [12:27] Sky is online. [12:29] Reisen: mmm, this is definitely a tricky area, and why I wanted to make sure they are given to the right people, because, as you say yourself, it can end up being that people only come to stay in their rooms and do not add anything to the sim [12:30] Vincent Wolf: Besides, there are other sims that offer anime residency...they can act as "our" residental areas of "far away land" . But I do like big dorms shared by groups, with a common lounge to interact with eachother [12:30] Aeka Utani is online. [12:31] Haruka: On that sim, the non school areas actually diluted the main RP. Dorm areas like the common rooms in Hogwarts would serve us well. [12:31] Haruka: Provided we have owls and spells, etc. [12:31] Minty Elsa: The idea of a more campuslike experience would probably be more appropiate with campus café's as extracuricular hangout spots [12:31] Vincent Wolf: We have Rabbirds, bunnies with fluffy angel wings :P [12:32] Haruka: ? [12:34] Reisen: I think having some stuff other than the school itself on sim would be good for 'afterschool' activities, but it should be just that, for after school, rather than the full experience [12:35] Kin Sable: Big dorms are fine. Those are more accessible and its probably the most privacy a person should get. But when it comes to personal apartments or rentals I believe a "Door left ajar" rule is necessary. People should have the ability to access you, but RP should still be consensual. That way its more a matter of respect and common sense. It also helps influence IC more. [12:36] .?. ??? .?.: Whose to say people won't just lock themselves in their dorms and not contribute to the RP? @_@ [12:36] Vincent Wolf: just make the rooms in a dorm tiny ...they are just AFK/OOC to hide in temporarily :P [12:37] Miaka is online. [12:37] Kin Sable: Because of the "door left ajar" policy. People can still approach you and come inside, but at least you have the ability to try and make a social connection. [12:37] Reisen: mmm, so dorms/residential stuff will need some thinking about, to make work right. and if even after then we get it wrong, we can change stuff [12:37] Reisen: I don't plan to stop taking feedback when the school is open, we will have a learning experience I think :3 [12:38] Reisen: Ok, so, what's coming next then: [12:38] .?. ??? .?.: Some people may want to use their dorm as a way to escape constant RP. So the whole door left ajar thing seems like it's forcing people to RP if it's not something they want to do at the moment. [12:39] ??n? is offline. [12:39] Minty Elsa: People are not supposed to live in them. They are just rp homes [12:39] Vincent Wolf: We can build an OOC lounge where people not rp-ing can hide in and socialize normally. Most Mushes/Moos has that as well...you are "off the grid" when in the ooc lounge [12:39] Kit Lyons: If you don't want to RP you can always hop off sim, it's not like they are forced to stay there. [12:40] Robin Ivory is offline. [12:40] Haruka: Could we be looking into this issue too much? [12:40] Haruka: Overthinking it? [12:40] Haruka: If people are gonna AFK, they'll AFK. [12:40] Haruka: Wherever [12:40] Kit Lyons: ^ [12:41] Kin Sable: Of course. RP is consensual. Can't consent if you're not there. [12:41] .?. ??? .?.: Seems more sensible than just leaving a sim, onii-chan. xD [12:42] ??n? is online. [12:42] Vincent Wolf: well, depends on the quality of roleplay that will be harbored here [12:42] Haruka: What about the rebel fleet massing near Solluce? [12:42] .?. ??? .?.: I don't think Kokoro is strictly RP, so people shouldn't have to leave the sim if RP isn't what they want to do. It should be fun for everyone. [12:42] Reisen: Personally I think it's Ok for people to go OOC on sim now and then, as long as we prevent it from interrupting people who are in serious RP [12:43] Kin Sable: I don't think anyone should have to leave the sim. I just want people to have a chance to access other people if they want to RP. [12:43] Reisen: mm :3 [12:43] Kin Sable: If someone doesn't want to RP can't force them to. Its more of a "Hey I MIGHT be able to RP with this person. Lets see if they want to as well." [12:43] .?. ??? .?.: Kit Lyons (kariritaisho): If you don't want to RP you can always hop off sim, it's not like they are forced to stay there [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: ?? [12:44] Kin Sable: Thats Kit, not me. [12:44] Kin Sable: I'm Kin. [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: I was referring to kit [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: not you [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: XD [12:44] Kit Lyons: that was meant towards people who would be using their rooms to AFK Mio [12:44] Kin Sable: Ah gotcha gotcha [12:44] Haruka: IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU KIN [12:44] Haruka: GAWD [12:44] Kin Sable: YES IT IS [12:44] Haruka: ? [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: loool [12:44] .?. ??? .?.: It's okay, the convo is all over the place [12:45] Reisen: Ok so look [12:45] Kin Sable: Well anyway, we may have been on this point too long [12:45] Reisen: When I start on this new island won't be for several months atleast [12:45] Reisen: As I have stuff to catch up on with the school, and money with the new sim too lol [12:46] Reisen: the immediate thing I plan to get going though [12:46] .?. ??? .?.: Would you be able to accept linden donations, rei? Even though you're not paying in linden @_@ [12:47] Kit Lyons: We can just shove the L$ into her shoe locker. [12:47] Reisen: normally I reject donations because, with the homestead it was a insignificant amount of money.. but right now I'm not gonna send your L$ back to you if you send it to me :p [12:48] Haruka: The scandal! [12:48] Reisen: Anyway, I think, if you guys are up to it [12:49] Kit Lyons: A confession letter with a bonus linden donation. [12:49] Reisen: we shall try to get the Character workshop thing going soon? And that will be something for everyone to do [12:49] RoyallyJinxed: yus [12:49] Kit Lyons: Sounds good. [12:49] Haruka: Sorry, what is this workshop? [12:49] .?. ??? .?.: How much is insignificant? Because I usually try to donate 20k+ to places I love. I was even considering getting a homestead and paying for it, for a residential area for kokoro. [12:50] Saki Lotte: 20000L a month I think? [12:50] Reisen: and we can sort of work from there, I'd like to do some community building soon, perhaps even reaching into anime communities outside of SL, so our name is reaching people who would get something from a place like this [12:50] Kit Lyons: Haruka, it's a workshop that will help people work on their character build, as well as help them learn the basics of roleplay if they need it. [12:50] Haruka: Ah, I see. [12:51] Haruka: Oh Rei, I IMd about something similar btw [12:51] Reisen: right now I've not really made an effort to get our name out there, or build the community [12:51] Reisen: simply because we have a 14 avatar limit so nobody would be able to come anyway rofl [12:52] Reisen: I will check my IM's after the meeting :3 [12:52] Haruka: Oki [12:52] Saki Lotte: were at full capacity right now sooo, noone can get in the sim, to give an idea [12:52] Miaka is offline. [12:52] .?. ??? .?.: @ v @ [12:52] Haruka: I'd like to stress that there are certain places that we'd be best to avoid. [12:52] Saki Lotte: except her [12:53] Haruka: EG: That one high toxic, elitist sim. [12:53] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:53] Haruka: highly* [12:53] Reisen: x3; [12:53] RoyallyJinxed: wut [12:53] Minami: Nya~ [12:53] Saki Lotte: i really think the cpacity is 20 [12:53] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:53] RoyallyJinxed: #Tea&Shade Meetings [12:53] Reisen: We let other sims do their thing ne, the motivation for kokoro, is kokoro, not other places XP [12:53] Minami: we're at 17 [12:54] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:54] .?. ??? .?.: Concurrent avatar limit set at 20 for homesteads [12:54] .?. ??? .?.: still not enough [12:54] .?. ??? .?.: @ v @ [12:54] Vincent Wolf: it is 20...said so earlier [12:54] Reisen: ow weird [12:54] Haruka: x3 [12:54] Reisen: I remember reading it was 14 [12:54] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:54] Reisen: well, I stand corrected [12:54] RoyallyJinxed: http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http://i.imgur.com/cRDXrL3.png [12:54] RoyallyJinxed: m8 [12:54] RoyallyJinxed: you can adjust it [12:54] DarthBunny Petrov: agent limit in this region is 20 [12:55] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:55] Receiver (Region info thing): Region: Surprise (estate Surprise) Type: Estate / Homestead Agent limit: 20 Version: Second Life Server 16.04.21.314319 Last restart: 3 days, 6 hours and 5 minutes ago [12:55] Peter Vendetta is online. [12:55] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:55] Saki Lotte: sh*t closed photoshop without saving, welp, there goes any chance of editing [12:55] Ravesn is offline. [12:55] SinoRaven is offline. [12:56] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:56] Reisen: So yeah, a sim upgrade, and a pause of development for a short while, and the start of the character workshop coming very soon [12:56] Ravesn is online. [12:56] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami RenderWeight 500000 [12:56] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Izanami is being teleported home. [12:56] Lag-Chan: The object 'Lag-Chan' has added agent 4abaf2ff-a8a9-4f22-a889-97b581c51040 to the estate ban list. [Surprise (147,70,3524)] [12:56] Lag-Chan: user banned;4abaf2ff-a8a9-4f22-a889-97b581c51040 [12:56] Lag-Chan: The object 'Lag-Chan' has removed agent 4abaf2ff-a8a9-4f22-a889-97b581c51040 from the estate ban list. [Surprise (147,70,3524)] [12:56] Lag-Chan: user unbanned;4abaf2ff-a8a9-4f22-a889-97b581c51040 [12:56] Reisen: I think.. that about covers everything I wanted to tell everyone about today :o [12:57] RoyallyJinxed: (-^??^-) [12:57] Reisen: Ah! [12:57] .?. ??? .?.: :0 [12:57] Minty Elsa: Reisen should not forget that the official opening does not mean that you can't rp here beforehand [12:57] Reisen: Kit wants to be a language representative, for spanish people [12:57] Malic Tolsen: I got here late was the stuff about getting the sim to also get the grandfathered rates talked about too? the 195 a month instea of 295? [12:57] Reisen: that was the other thing o3o [12:58] Minami: WHat do language representatives do specifically again? [12:58] Minami: Since i remember saying i would be interested ages ago. [12:58] Reisen: Basically, the idea is to let people who speak another language play at Kokoro, and help them into the community etc [12:59] Kit Lyons: Translation work and outreach then. [12:59] Reisen: mm :3 [12:59] Saki Lotte: nothing id piss in someone's cornflakes about thoughhhh, Its inevitable. If you stick with homestead, it means accepting the sim as it is now, Incomplete and limited on LI. You're essentially just saying that, instead of opening, you'll just be getting the sim upgraded; not only that, people who buy your products in the MP, can expect more, in the coming future. [13:00] .?. ??? .?.: But how would they fair against everyone else? Wouldn't it be less fun for them if no one can understand them? Or will there be a group with only people who speak their language? [13:01] Reisen: mmm, the aim more than anything is to help involve those people [13:02] Reisen: at the moment people who come to the school who do not speak english [13:02] Reisen: they often stick to themselves, and understandably do not join in with everyone else.. but they still want to be here [13:02] Reisen: the aim more than anything is to help those sort of people actually join in with everyone else [13:03] Reisen: so it's more about bridging that gap than supporting the gap [13:03] .?. ??? .?.: I'd suggest a translator tool but it's ahrd to trust thsoe thigns, stuff can easily get lsot in translation. >< [13:03] .?. ??? .?.: hard* those* [13:03] .?. ??? .?.: ..lost* XD [13:03] RoyallyJinxed: things* [13:03] Reisen: Well, anyway [13:03] Minami: i have yet to come across any reliable japanese or any language translator that would be of any use in RP x3 [13:03] Saki Lotte: Kit will be the translation tool, atleast for Moderating and administrative purposes, I assummmmee. [13:04] Kit Lyons: Yay I'm a tool >.> [13:04] Haruka: If it helps, I can speak conversational Japanese as I use it for my career. [13:04] Reisen: how is everyone feeling about knowing about the delay and why I am delaying opening yet again? happy? annoyed? x3; [13:04] RoyallyJinxed: I think it's a fair trade [13:04] Haruka: Meh. It can't be helped. I think we all understand. [13:04] Saki Lotte: Kit will be the Translating cutiepants* [13:04] Saki Lotte: hows that [13:04] Kin Sable: The delay is fine. I think being patient and waiting for Kokoro to come out strong is a good deal. [13:04] Kin Sable: Well stronger [13:04] Kit Lyons: I think it's worth the delay, And woo! [13:04] Reisen is glad ^_^ [13:05] Minami: these things are better decided before it actually opens so its a necessary sacrifice :3 [13:05] Reisen: I'm going to wait till this time next month, because I want to let one more paycheck come in, and also to make the most of the last of the homestead rent left over x3 [13:05] Gerael: you did a great job so far with the place so if it takes more but it's just as good then it's worth it :3 [13:06] Saki Lotte: I can offer to be a translation notsoCutiepants for French and Creole, if you need that, but Id have to come around the sim moooreee [13:06] Reisen: I expect the move itself should be pretty fast [13:06] Reisen: maybe it will take a few days to move everything over tops [13:06] Minami: RP involving translation.. not so sure how that would work.. >.< [13:07] Saki Lotte: not RP, moderating [13:07] ??? is online. [13:07] Saki Lotte: as in, if trouble brews or they wanna make a club [13:07] Minty Elsa: lol [13:07] Saki Lotte: itd help to not have google translate [13:07] Vincent Wolf: english prerequisite...done :P [13:07] Kit Lyons: Oh man google translate can do some funny things to language barriers. [13:07] Saki Lotte: "I base toilet the basement while i walk XD" [13:08] Reisen: what xP [13:08] Kit Lyons: I nearly spit water onto my screen Saki. [13:08] Saki Lotte: exactly [13:08] Reisen: Alright [13:09] Kit Lyons: So our servings of tea and cake are finished for now I think [13:09] Caeil: no, I'm still hungry [13:09] Caeil: more cake please [13:09] Minami: *facedesks* i stayed up until 6am x3 [13:09] Haruka clings to her cake [13:09] Caeil: :3 [13:09] Reisen: well, I will call the meeting finished here today, I will try to sort out the character workshop stuff very soon o3o

Tea & Cake 22/04/2016

Overview:

We announced the supernatural powers vote: Powers won!

We are preparing to start the Character workshop and will be looking for volunteers soon!

Transcript:

[12:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): alright [12:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the meeting starts now :3 [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [12:01] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): I thought my jokes were bad. [12:01] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho heh he ha aha... [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): First and foremost , I want to talk about the Supernatural powers vote [12:01] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Arent we missing Mi-chan? [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): If you remember not so long ago we had a debate that led to us deciding on a vote if we have or have not had supernatural powers [12:02] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): its a go right? [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): if we have or don't have* [12:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): well, the vote is closed now, and I've gone over the results, verified it, and of 48 voters, it was basically a 3/5 for super powers [12:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, yes, supernatural powers is an open topic now at the school :3 [12:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we'll have to organise how that all works in the near future [12:05] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): \o/ Death-Sensei is here! [12:05] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): hmm maybe ill start teaching potions again, its been a while... [12:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Um, we had a open comment thing, during the vote [12:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): would you guys like me to show you everything that was said? [12:06] RoyallyJinxed: pls [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): or want me to summarize it? as it'll be a lot of copy pasta [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'll just copy paste, and you guys can have a read [12:07] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yes just make a notecard or something [12:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): alright hold on :3 [12:09] RoyallyJinxed: ty [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [12:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'll give you a moment to skim over that and we'll continue :3 [12:10] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I find they provide very valid concerns [12:11] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, reading through these comments personally [12:11] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): i see my comment xD [12:12] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): here is one commenting about supernatural traits vs superpowers that can be used in a comment [12:12] Reisen (extrude.ragu): my jist is alot of people shared my original concerns, but there's also people that think it will add something to the school.. and I think one of the themes is that people are saying that we should be careful about how they work and it'll need some regulation [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): mhm mhm [12:13] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): My impression is also that there was a bit of confusion from abilities to be used in a combat type scenario versus just supernatural traits. Like... An imp that has burning hair for example. [12:14] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): or you know a magical moon bunny [12:14] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): I think in roleplay everything needs a bit of regulation, especially on SL otherwise things will be taken to an extreme in order to sway or even destroy rp. [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, so what I'm thinking is [12:15] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): something i want to note... when i rped in doomed ship and necronom there were no limitations in powers... so you often ran into jack the cybersamurai from the future with his plasma sword and black hole grenades (no really, real character ive seen) and it kind of just killed the rp and we all walked out.... regulation is fairly critical [12:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): for those of us who were here you will remember we discussed character workshops before [12:16] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and I'm thinking that, with the help of some volunteers, we can start to figure out, where these limits are, and our own expectations, in an open character workshop debate type thing [12:17] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, communication and open discussion is going to be key to making this work :o [12:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So, I guess, my question is, would anyone here like to help get the workshop off the ground? I expect it will be formed of a few members, and I'll oversee getting it off the ground, but after that it'll be pretty independant ne :3 [12:20] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Shouldnt you be part of that group? <.< [12:20] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): i guess i could help if you want [12:20] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I can help [12:21] RoyallyJinxed: I would :3 [12:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ^_^ [12:21] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): I can always give input I help as an admin consult on a few sims. I have a pretty good eye of what can be taken to an extreme. [12:22] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): yeah... i still admin in HH, so ive seen... alot of extreme things. O.o [12:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I have a friend, Fei, who expressed some interest in helping the character workshop out too, she says to word it herself she is a nerd with 13 years of roleplay experience :P [12:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): so I might see if she can come share her idea's too sometime [12:22] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): only 13? pff..still a green grasshopper [12:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): :P [12:23] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): I dont mind helping out the design once you decided on background/setting [12:24] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): ive played a DM for a long time... im shit at building but know my way around leading rp and setting up storylines [12:24] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): ^ [12:24] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well, I think the background and setting stuff will be coming very soon now that we know people's opinions on supernatural stuff at the school, we can make some informed design decisions [12:25] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Just be carefull if you give too much power/freedom...as it will become a military school (assuming you want realistic consequences to big powers ) [12:25] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): yeah [12:25] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): can we go back to using the discussion rules maybe? [12:26] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): as i said toy ou before when we talked reisen, the more powers you allow in general, the more combat themed rp will be... to use the same line, if you give someone the ability to toss fireballs, theres a finite list of things they can do with it [12:27] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, yes, lets go back to using discussion rules for now as it's a bit of a debate area, if you'd like to make a comment on something that has been said, raise your hand please ^^ [12:28] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Um, right, lets talk Character workshop, then, as I think the sooner this gets set up, the more people we can have helped towards better characters at point of school opening [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): What I'm thinking is, would people be happy if it was like, a bi-weekly session we had? like, every other week? or is that too often? not often enough? [12:29] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): -hand- [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Nox [12:30] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): I think that with a workshop especially with dividing and regulating powers, the smart thing to do is set out at first what you think is the right time and amount of meetings. Say bi weekly like you suggest, as you roleplay and run into problems that can very easily change so be open to flexing on it, maybe it will be needed more often or far less...likely more often at the start to work out kinks. [12:33] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that's a pretty good point.. perhaps the first meetings could even be weekly whilst we sort things out, and relax it as time goes on.. I expect that, the school will at first be seeing lots of new members, so we'll need to work harder towards the start to help the most people get their characters together.. and then after that we can start to relax it a bit maybe [12:34] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Minty? :3 [12:35] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think weekly is fine, but yeah you have to consider that it is a voluntary thing so regardless of time I think it is not easy to work on characters that have already been established unless they volunteer to do so. And as such I think it is important to figure out at least a baseline of what is considered acceptable before we even do the first workshop. [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that's a good point [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Um, my thinking is that actually, figuring out, what is acceptable, what our standards are, could be a part of the workshop sessions we do, so as to keep the tea and cake meetings free for other things, it would help empower the volunteers more aswell, I think? [12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): minty :P [12:38] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think if we do that then it is important that the volunteers know that it is a bit experimental and we should have it worked out by the time the school actually opened though [12:39] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): -hand- [12:39] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): sorry i had to go afk my boss was on the phone [12:39] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): \o/ i just got promoted [12:39] RoyallyJinxed: gj [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Yes, that is definite.. I expect the road to be a bit bumpy whilst we sort this stuff out, we're still putting things together and we don't know what might lie ahead just yet, which is why I'm keen to see the workshop start before the school starts [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): ((Congrats!)) [12:40] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): congrats! [12:40] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): tyty)) [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, as long as everyone is working together and there is lots of communication, we should manage :P [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Nox? [12:42] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): I agree with the set list. I will speak from some harsh experience here that it is cool there should be discussion on what would be allowed and denied. Though having a base line list will really help. Denying certain things up front is essential in a expedient process. Without it, you open yourself up to a lot of arguments and headaches that are just not needed. [12:43] [[ Tsuchino Co.,Ltd. ]] Japanese Teacup (Wear me!) whispers: Have a Japanese green tea! [12:43] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hmm.. [12:44] Viya (furri.hiereichler) entered the region (859.59 m). [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, we can definitely come up with some set guidelines to help the process, I have some things I will personally impose even (queue evil dictatorship accusations :P) [12:45] Viya (furri.hiereichler) entered chat range (3.78 m). [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): my personal musts are that we work towards making the school feel like a school not just in decor but in our encounters etc, for example [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): as that is like [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the whole reason i spent 2 years making this place xP [12:46] Minty Elsa (poopelsa) raises hand [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but other than that it's pretty open ended :o [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu) squeaks [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): welcome viya [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and minty? :3 [12:47] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): I think that raises a very important point. A few of the commenters were concerned about the school turning too "Non slice of life" and focus too much on the supernatural and I find that we should try not to diminish these people as I kind of side with them on that view. [12:48] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): theres a simple solution to that problem [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I definitely side with them on this view, and I think that it'll be a big factor in the workshop for sure, perhaps when we run the workshop it can be a discussion point about how to avoid it becoming too much fight simulator and keeping the slice of life :3 [12:49] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): its called a magic ward, cancels out the magical properties and supernatural powers of non human characters, generally used at schools that have supernaturals and humans in most fiction. [12:50] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): sorry im so quiet, my arm is killing me [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that's an interesting concept, Hisashi :3 remember to raise your hand though please! [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Um [12:50] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): then whats the use of supernatural powers if it is locked away? [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): building into the lore, why magic can't get overused is a good idea for sure [12:51] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): you would use the supernatural powers outside of the school. IE for club activities or whatnot, or just to have an interesting back story [12:51] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): for instance, i play Death or his incarnation in every rp i go to, yet i never use my powers. [12:51] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): its just interesting back story [12:52] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): If we add magic, I prefer it is incorporated into the school educational system <.< [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu) raises their hand! [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hisashi, Vincent, you gotta raise your hands ne o3o [12:52] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): i mean of course, but you can't have people just using magic during class, unless its the magic class, which clearly wouldn't be taught inside the school, thats dangerous [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, so [12:53] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Here's the thing, we're going to work all this stuff out in the Character workshops I think, as it's a big debate type thing and otherwise we'll never get to cover anything else at Tea and Cake [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): What I am thinking is, if I reach out to those who were interested in volunteering in the near future, we can sort out the best days/times to have these sessions, and we can start to unknot all the kinks and figure everything out [12:55] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): i'll volunteer [12:55] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun) has already vollunteered and so stays quiet to let reisen finish [12:56] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): Just hit me up if need. I'll let ya know if I have any other obligations SL/RL. [12:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Perhaps I'll make our first meeting an open meeting so those interested in Volunteering can come along, I suspect it's going to take a bit of organizing and figuring things out [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Right um, I think that's pretty much all I wanted to cover today, personally.. is there anything else anyone wants to make a brief comment about before I say a few notes? o3o [12:59] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): No thank you [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:59] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): No, and thank you for having me. [12:59] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): None [12:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): How about for future meetings? are there any topics people would like to talk about that haven't been talked about yet? I know it is often me who chooses the topic so it might seem a bit closed like that [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): We can talk about classes and stuff next [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Oh? is there something about classes you'd like to talk about? our whole meeting last time was about teachers :P [13:02] Ume Tokisaki (yulan.zsun): bah wish i had attended last meeting [13:02] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Only wondering in what direction the setting/background will go and when it be decided on.. [13:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well perhaps we can figure some of that stuff out next meeting then [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ume, we keep transcripts of previous meetings on our changelog, if you're interested to read about what was said [13:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): http://log.kokoro.academy [13:03] DarthBunny Petrov is getting old, is still not used to those fancy long top level domains x.x [13:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, well, if there's nothing more to be said for now, I guess the meeting is ready to conclude here :3 [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): just a small progress update: I'm currently working on the volleyball system, and have a biiiig chunk of the logic already in place, so you'll be able to play Volleyball in the sports hall soon! :3 [13:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): :o [13:05] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): soonish [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): xP [13:05] Nox (ragnoros.naxos): Gravy [13:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i cant waiitt [13:06] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): but...can we do flaming spike attacks at volleybal? [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3! [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we'll see~ [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Alright, thanks for attending everyone :3

#kokoro-academy #tea & cake

Tea & Cake 15/04/2016

Summary

We talked about all things teachers, teacher recruitment, teacher training, teacher management, teacher duties, expectations, etc!

Transcript

[12:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Okay guys get munching [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): just for the information of Hirashi who I don't think I've seen at the meetings before, we're running a turn based discussion, so if you have some input, you gotta raise your hand first.. remember to keep things short and on point so everyone gets a chance to say what they wanna say [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): welcome mio :3 [12:02] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Thank youuuu [12:02] Saki (sharkeydow): I decreased my clumsy multiplier since I have bad luckk and faceplant every 5ft! [12:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): x3 [12:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so.. todays' meeting, I really wanted to discuss, teachers at the school :3 [12:02] Saki (sharkeydow): now its every 10ft! [12:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): there are a few area's to discuss, obviously, it's quite a broad topic, but um [12:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): as a starting point, why don't we talk about, duties the teacher carries out, what we might expect from our teachers? [12:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): nobody? x3 [12:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler) raises hand [12:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Viya :3 [12:05] Viya (furri.hiereichler): do teachers need to have like, a detailed curriculum or such or can they just make it up as they go along? :o [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmmm, that's a good question, and maybe a nice discussion point? like uh [12:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): personally, I think that it should depend on what the teacher does.. like, if it's just a roleplay lesson for fun maybe it does not need to be as organised as like.. a proper course, to teach a skill? [12:07] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah thats what i was thinking [12:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how about um, duties outside of lessons? [12:09] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): club chaperones [12:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): for example, could teachers be involved in helping out around the school in some other way? like.. managing schedules, etc [12:09] Viya (furri.hiereichler): they could also be OOC moderators [12:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hrmm.. [12:11] RoyallyJinxed: I think we should have parent/teacher conferences where no parents show up because everyone is an MC :333 [12:11] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that, giving teachers moderator powers is not a small decision.. and needs a lot of trust, and it would mean we have a very large moderator base - would that be a good thing? x3 [12:12] Viya (furri.hiereichler): they could be semi moderators :o [12:12] Viya (furri.hiereichler): like uh, they just keep chat logs and stuff [12:12] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and could report to a full power moderator if anything comes up [12:12] RoyallyJinxed: Backseat moderation can become annoying pretty fast >_>;; [12:12] RoyallyJinxed: Personal opinion [12:12] Saki (sharkeydow): private after school lessons for the students having truble keeping up? [12:13] Viya (furri.hiereichler): ohh [12:13] Saki (sharkeydow): trouble* [12:13] Viya (furri.hiereichler): thats good saki :o [12:13] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i like that idea! [12:13] Link (kotarou.orca) is online. [12:14] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmm, I definitely like where saki is going with that, and I think it should be encouraged :3 [12:14] Reisen (extrude.ragu): going back to RJ for a minute [12:14] Reisen (extrude.ragu): what does RJ mean by backseat moderation? care to expand? [12:15] RoyallyJinxed: ah it's a term we used to use. It's basically from the term backseat driver. There'd be people who'd go around acting like moderators and then reporting to our staff like randal from recess [12:15] RoyallyJinxed: and while you see the good intent was there, it can get very.. out of hand [12:16] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmmm.. how did it get out of hand? :o [12:17] Reisen (extrude.ragu): welcome vincent, take a seat~ :3 [12:17] Vincent Wolf (vwolf): Thank you [12:17] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we're discussing teacher duties at the school [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: Well, imagine a whole lot of 'he said/she said' situations and people acting like and enforcing authority [12:18] RoyallyJinxed: it's easy potential for people to get big for their boots [12:18] RoyallyJinxed: there was this one who used to go around threatening people with bans even though he wasn't staff and for stuff that wasn't even against our rules lmfao, [12:19] RoyallyJinxed: and then we'd get a long paragraph about a minor thing someone did and a demand they be banned lmfao [12:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I see [12:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): then any teacher who abuses the power could get kicked? o3o i mean i cant imagine there would be *that* many teachers, and i doubt many of them would abuse their "power" to report chat logs o3o [12:20] RoyallyJinxed: but then that's spying [12:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Welcome Kepora, take a seat~ [12:20] Kepora Arashi: Thanks. I'm lagging a little, so sorry if I step on anyone. [12:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): its a school though, teachers in RL "spy" on conversations in class and stuff [12:20] Saki (sharkeydow): Theres usually a teacher that will lock or open the school gates on designated times. Theyre usually the ones who also enforce clothing regulations and all that, during those times, if you don't have a disciplinary comittee. They can be the "most trusted" teacher to stay fair, but also want to do the tedious job that is moderating. [12:21] Saki (sharkeydow): A committee, on the other hand, would kindaaa be the in-between of the two. [12:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so, the sort of drift I'm getting from this is, telling teachers they are 'extra responsible' for keeping the peace, without giving them powers etc, sounds like a bad idea, because it'll cause backseat moderation and make people act more high and mighty than they might actually be [12:23] Kepora Arashi: They should still have a role in it though, being teachers. But like RL teachers, they have an administration they report to. [12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah thats how i meant it [12:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmm [12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): report to the actual moderators o3o [12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and i dont mean like [12:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): constantly, only when theres trouble [12:23] Kepora Arashi: So for minor stuff, yeah, they should be able to handle it. But bigger things? Yeah, send them to the principal's office. :P [12:25] RoyallyJinxed: Ah, for roleplay problems they should do stuff I think.. sending people out ect but I mean, for actual sim management, they should just behave like every other roleplayer and report to mods if there's an actual OOC problem >_> [12:25] Kepora Arashi: Ahhh. yeah, I agree. [12:26] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I feel like, to an extent, the teachers at KA, even though it is a roleplay role, people would still kind of see them as 'representatives'? [12:26] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah [12:26] Kepora Arashi nods. [12:26] RoyallyJinxed: So teachers will be expected to set an example ? [12:27] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think setting an example would be a good teacher responsibility :3 [12:27] Kepora Arashi: Of course. [12:28] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hirashi mentioned 'club chaperone' earlier.. could teachers help with club stuff in other ways? like, helping to give them idea's, and things to do.. assigning rooms? [12:28] Kepora Arashi: yeah, give them more to do outside of the classes. [12:28] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): That is what the club counselor role is about, ne [12:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): it's meant to be held by certain teachers [12:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i think the roles should be separate but not mutually exclusive :o [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I see :3 [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmm.. [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): on the topic of assignment [12:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): could teachers be assigning students roles? [12:30] Kepora Arashi: I don't see why not. [12:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): like, saying x student is part of a committee [12:31] Kepora Arashi: My philosophy is "if it makes sense, do it". :P [12:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so, there's alot here about day to day stuff, how about [12:31] Saki (sharkeydow): You dont want teachers to get bored, so give them stuff to do outside of classes. extra lessons, club chaperoning, Meeting at a bar after work with other teachers, etc. [12:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): not so regular stuff? for example, maybe the school has a big event [12:32] Kepora Arashi: ^ @ Saki [12:32] Kepora Arashi: Which is one of the reasons I'm a little bummed we aren't in likea city block. No apartments, shops, bars, etc. :P And how do you mean, Rei? [12:33] Saki (sharkeydow): Could make a road that TP's to a Room, that is a small local bar. Treating it like any other school rooms, function wise [12:34] Saki (sharkeydow): extra workload though, for reisen [12:34] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah i htink we should focus on the school first, then we can worry about expanding to out of school areas :3 [12:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think Sakis' thoughts about the afterschool side of teachers lives is interesting. I can't see bars etc being built in the sim for some time yet, due to time restrictions, but post opening it is certainly possible [12:35] Kepora Arashi: Still something to consider for down the road. [12:35] Saki (sharkeydow): yea, leave it for after opening, like an expansion pack [12:35] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [12:35] Reisen (extrude.ragu): kokoro academy: after-school expansion [12:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): xP [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): £12.99 [12:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): xD [12:36] RoyallyJinxed: #DLC [12:36] Kepora Arashi: Succ Edtion: 14.99 [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): actually [12:36] Saki (sharkeydow): It's raining money! [12:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): ill just buy the season pass for 30.00 :3 [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): this is not on the topic of teachers [12:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): but a little side-note to keep you all informed: [12:37] Kepora Arashi: Viya, does it include the Succ AND Fucc versions? :P [12:37] Viya (furri.hiereichler): for 30 pounds, it better xD [12:37] Saki (sharkeydow): brbbb [12:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): if we were to expand the school to have an area like that, we almost certainly would need to upgrade to a full sim - Something which costs me in the range of $600 upfront, or $1200 to grandfather the region (to make the cost of running cheaper long term) [12:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): it's certainly possible I will one day invest that in the school, although, unfortunately my money situation right now is not quite ready to chuck that around x3; [12:39] Kepora Arashi: Ahhh. [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [12:39] Reisen (extrude.ragu): maybe after-school life is put on the back-burner now for later [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): or perhaps [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we can share with some neighboring communities for that stuff around SL :3 [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): in the mean time [12:40] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh that could be an interesting arrangement :o [12:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): welcome Kama :o [12:41] Kama (kamakirii): thanks, sorry I'm late x3 [12:41] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but probably a little difficult heh [12:41] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): sorry guys gotta run [12:41] Reisen (extrude.ragu): o/ [12:41] Viya (furri.hiereichler): see you! [12:41] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): (?°?°)?? ??? [12:41] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): *CENSORED* you cake [12:41] Hisashi Kuroba- Shi (nanashishade): xD [12:42] William is still waiting for cake. :< [12:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok, so we've got quite a few idea's of things that teachers will do [12:42] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how do you think we should help teachers along in doing those things? perhaps we could run sessions for new teachers? how would those go? [12:43] Kepora Arashi: COuld do a Teacher's Assistant thing. Like, for a set period of time or until their "mentor" says htey're good, they work alongside a pre-existing teacher? [12:43] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh i like that idea :o [12:44] Kepora Arashi: My grandma was a teacher for 30 years, so I've seen plenty of thigns like that [12:44] Reisen (extrude.ragu): oo, yes, it was a pretty common practice in my old school for teachers in training to attend the class and run parts of it [12:44] Kepora Arashi: Yay, I'm helping! [12:44] Kepora Arashi: Plus, it would double as a vetting process. [12:44] Kepora Arashi: Like if someone's totally illiterate or a powergamer or whatever, we'll have someone there to observe it. [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm :3 [12:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that's a pretty good idea :o [12:46] Kepora Arashi: And usually with most people, you can tell within the first hour. XD So minimum one class/event? [12:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): maybe we can also do some sessions aswell, where we discuss like, teaching styles, techniques to help people learn better or make the class more interesting :3 [12:46] Kepora Arashi nods. [12:47] Kepora Arashi: I do some RP at Black Gazza, so...I've got first-hand experience of what happens when people don't apply standards to new arrivals. You can get some real bad shit. XD So it's something I think about fairly often. [12:47] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Yeah, I think [12:47] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah i definitely think there should be an observation period before we give a new comer a role in the school xP [12:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the quality of teachers, is going to be a really important thing, because, it'll be a defining factor for most students experience at the school :3 [12:48] Kepora Arashi: And mind you, I'm not saying be a grammar nazi, but if someone can't even use /me, then there's a problem. [12:48] Kepora Arashi: Oh definitely. [12:49] RoyallyJinxed: should teachers have a dress code or can they come in all edgy [12:49] Kepora Arashi: Teachers tend to have more freedom, but wihtin reason. [12:49] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i think reisen mentioned the teachers having uniforms last meeting o3o [12:49] Kepora Arashi: Like if someone walks in in a micro-skirt and garter belt with a dental floss thong, then... [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I actually thought more on that since last meeting [12:50] Reisen (extrude.ragu): my personal opinion is smart-casual should be the general guidelines [12:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hmm.. i think it should be formal attire [12:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): doesnt necessarily have to be a uniform, but you should look professional [12:51] RoyallyJinxed: black suits and bow ties for the classroom? [12:51] RoyallyJinxed: lmfao [12:51] Kepora Arashi: This place doesn't strike me as a strictly-formal place. [12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): lol [12:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): well like you said [12:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i cant really take it seriously if the teacher walks in with a micro skirt [12:51] Kepora Arashi: More button-up short and slacks kind of deal. [12:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): or torn jeans or something [12:51] Kepora Arashi: *shirt [12:51] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Business casual is more than enough. That's what most teachers wear anyhow [12:51] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm [12:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think business casual sets a friendly tone aswell, as opposed to everyone in super formal wear [12:52] Viya (furri.hiereichler): thats true i guess [12:52] Kepora Arashi: Yeah. if it were some higher-class school deal, like something fancier? Then I could see the formal thing. [12:52] Kepora Arashi: This place seems more..."normal", despite the whole island thing. XD [12:53] Saki (sharkeydow): back [12:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): welcome back~ [12:53] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Maybe a regular pencil skirt with a button-up shirt for women, and i guess slacks and the same top for men? ovo [12:53] Saki (sharkeydow): thankss [12:53] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): it's simple [12:53] Kepora Arashi: Sounds good to me. And some staff would have different thigns, like, say, whoever teaches Gym. [12:53] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): and available to anyone, i think [12:53] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): yuh [12:54] Kepora Arashi: Speaking of which, if no one's taken that role already, i think I have a big guy I could play in that role... [12:54] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): sweatsuits for gym teachers! or t-shirt and shorts/sweats if we're rping the weather also XD [12:54] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): like an indoor/outdoor thing [12:54] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh that brings me to another question about teachers if thats alright [12:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): sounds pretty good to me [12:54] Kepora Arashi: Gym shorts adn sleeveless shirt :B [12:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): viya? [12:56] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh uh, basically i was wondering if someone could be more than one role, not the same character obviously, but like could one person have both a teacher character and a student character? [12:56] Kepora Arashi: I don't see the problem in that, so long as they don't abuse it to metagame. [12:56] Kepora Arashi: Hell, I'm an altoholic myself. XD [12:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmm.. [12:58] Link (kotarou.orca) is offline. [12:58] Kepora Arashi: Like, I could have one charcter who's your best friend, and another who wants to stab yu in the liver. :D [12:58] Kepora Arashi: *you [12:58] Viya (furri.hiereichler): xP [12:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think there is definitely room for things to go wrong and people to use it to their advantage, but at the same time it would suck if you were stuck only ever playing one character at the school forever and you wanted to try something different [12:59] Kepora Arashi: My advice is allow it, but reprimand people who abuse it - and badly. [12:59] Saki (sharkeydow): I dont see a problem with that. Personally, I think i'm gonna have hell as is, sticking to one character. [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): maybe uh [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): put a limit on it [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): like, you can switch characters [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but you can only pick one for a day [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): if that makes sense [12:59] Kepora Arashi: Hmmmm. [12:59] Viya (furri.hiereichler): like you cant switch characters halfway through the day [12:59] Kepora Arashi: I'm agaisnt that TBH. [12:59] RoyallyJinxed: would defeat the purpose [13:00] Kepora Arashi: Because if someone happens that incpacitates you or whatever in whatever way, you're basically "lcoked out" [13:00] Kepora Arashi: *locked [13:00] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): yes that is a stupid idea [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): oh i think there could be [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): exceptions for cases like that [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i mean like [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): a teacher switching to student [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): in the middle of class [13:00] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): limiting who you want to play as is never a good idea [13:00] Viya (furri.hiereichler): or vice versa [13:00] Kepora Arashi: Still. You're not going tos top bad people from abusing it. The best you can do is watch out for it, and punish those who do. [13:00] Kepora Arashi: Oh that's just common sense. :P But like between classes or whatever, I think it should be fine. [13:01] Saki (sharkeydow): not stupid, just disagreeable [13:01] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): even if you want to play two characters at once you could do that if it does not get in the way of other's roleplaying. roleplaying is primarily about freedom [13:01] Kepora Arashi: Or if someone wants a secific character for a scene. [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): One of my worries is [13:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): espescially in the case of teachers [13:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): are perhaps we end up with teachers who only ever become a teacher to teach a lesson.. and then the rest of the time they are a completely different character.. If we give freedom to switch characters whenever, should we perhaps try to encourage people to stick with their characters for longer than 'it's convenient'? [13:02] Kepora Arashi: Well, you could put a limit on inter-character interactions. Like, let's say someone has a student and teacher character, right? If that student became privy to some not-kosher dealigns in the school, that person can't say that their own student told their own teacher what was happening. [13:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): especially in the case of teachers [13:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): because think about it [13:02] Kepora Arashi: Fair enough. [13:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): a student can leave, and the class still goes [13:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but if the teacher leaves [13:03] Kepora Arashi: Yeah. [13:03] Viya (furri.hiereichler): now you have a bunch of students with nothing to do [13:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): thats called not being retarded [13:03] Kepora Arashi: ^ [13:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if a teacher honestly walks out of the class to play a student [13:03] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): they are no longer teachers [13:03] Kepora Arashi: I agree. [13:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): character switching sounds like a topic that has a fair amount of debate to it ne [13:04] Saki (sharkeydow): How about this, You can switch any time. The one you are not RPing right then and there is considered "background decor" or On Auto-pilot. The limit could just be that you can *not* have any interaction Character to Character. Someone who is playing say, a math teacher and a student, will not be able to have the student join the math class. [13:04] Kepora Arashi: Basically, people should just put common sense into play. [13:05] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hum [13:06] Kama (kamakirii): who keeps an eye on what the teachers do to make sure they're following protocol? [13:06] Kepora Arashi: The moderators. if the teacher's being dumb wiht it, the students should be the ones to point it out too. [13:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu): personally, I think that we should encourage people to stick with their characters for longer, so that better stories can be built up, but I don't think we should be draconian about it and start forcing people to do things x3 [13:06] Kepora Arashi: Right. [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hum, that's a good question kama [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): my feeling is [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we should leave that up to the people who are already watching them [13:07] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the students [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): to report in if there is a problem, [13:08] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): yes just report with chatlogs and evidence and you are in the green [13:08] Reisen (extrude.ragu): as it sends a message of distrust if we have an admin breathing down their neck all the time x3 [13:09] Kama (kamakirii): fair enough [13:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): maybe we could do some things to encourage good teachers aswell [13:09] Kepora Arashi: Brb, going to get a snack [13:09] Reisen (extrude.ragu): like, we could poll students on how they feel about teachers [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): like those.. scale of 1 to 5 sheet type things [13:10] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and have a contest for best teacher [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): :P [13:10] Reisen (extrude.ragu): with medals and stuff [13:11] Reisen (extrude.ragu): if we make it a positive thing, and a challenge for teachers, rather than being told to do something [13:11] RoyallyJinxed: #EmployeeOfTheMonth [13:11] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think we will have a better response :3 [13:12] Saki (sharkeydow): Teacher RP Quote of the month, on a OOC Bulletin board [13:12] Kepora Arashi: Back [13:12] Saki (sharkeydow): Welcome backk [13:13] Kepora Arashi: "Succ is dead. No succ." - Kepora [13:14] Saki (sharkeydow): whatasucc? [13:14] Kepora Arashi: I dunno, I've been watching VInesauce Joel too much lately. [13:14] Saki (sharkeydow): ohhh! [13:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmmm~ [13:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): quotes of the month could be a fun thing, we could do it as a universal thing even [13:15] Reisen (extrude.ragu): like, for students too? [13:15] Viya (furri.hiereichler): sure [13:15] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): if you make ratings and stuff if they score badly that would only discourage them and could lead to bullying [13:15] Kepora Arashi: Whatever's like an awesome burn or funny out-of-context quote? [13:16] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Well.. is bullying so bad as long as it's IC? [13:16] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): I'd see it as character development [13:16] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah idk about rating students [13:16] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but rating teachers is a good idea for quality control [13:16] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): We cn't expect everyone's characters to have a perfect, drama-free experience, that's boring [13:16] Kepora Arashi: Of course. IC meanness, bullying, etc. is fine IMO. it adds conflict adn depth [13:17] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): It jsut becomes a problem if peopel are bullying OOCly about IC grades [13:17] Kepora Arashi: Hell, I practically expect my guys to get flak for their fuzziness. [13:17] Saki (sharkeydow): IC Bullying makes for good Underdog characters [13:17] Kepora Arashi: Hell, my initial character concept is practically bully bait. [13:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think, from a roleplay perspective bullying is fine, as long as people can keep in mind it's from an in-character perspective [13:18] Kepora Arashi nods. [13:18] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): i think a grading system is a great idea, in my opinion. [13:18] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): It gives people somethign to work for, I guess? [13:18] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): something* [13:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): mm :3 [13:18] Reisen (extrude.ragu): it's a measurement of progress, for sure [13:18] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i see where minty is coming from though [13:18] Viya (furri.hiereichler): if someone gets scored like [13:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): a 1 on their roleplaying skills [13:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): they might just give up [13:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): rather than try to improve [13:19] Kepora Arashi: Well, if they're that bad... XD [13:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): they might not be though [13:19] Viya (furri.hiereichler): some people rate things weird [13:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that [13:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): so long as the rating system [13:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): has like [13:19] Reisen (extrude.ragu): a minimum number of voters [13:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): it's unlikely that votes will be that unfair [13:20] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): there should be levels. Beginner, for people who don't RP much/don't really get the haang of it [13:20] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): to veterans [13:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i think a rating system, if implented, should require a justification of their score as well [13:20] Elissa (brunettebabe3588): You can capture me if you touch my neck... [13:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and if they are getting bad votes on anything, maybe them deciding the roll is not for them is not such a bad thing after all [13:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): so you cant just vote 1 or 5 and leave, you should have to justify your rating so the person who recieves it knows what they did good or bad [13:20] Reisen (extrude.ragu): on everything* [13:20] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and can try to improve on that aspect [13:21] Kepora Arashi: Oh, Rei, I have a nifty little tool a friend gave me I wanna give you. [13:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hum~ [13:21] Reisen (extrude.ragu): oh? [13:21] Saki (sharkeydow): If they cant handle some minor critisism, Then they were toxic people to begin with, in my opinion. [13:21] Kepora Arashi: ^ [13:22] Kepora Arashi: And it's a height meter that measures an avatar's hitbox, and compared their height to age groups for boys adn girls. [13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): unconfident isnt the same as toxic [13:22] Kepora Arashi: I think that they're talking about people who like [13:22] Kepora Arashi: take ANY criticism at ALL as a personal attack. [13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): ohh, im talking about [13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): people getting discouraged [13:22] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and just giving up on trying to be better [13:22] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): its less about throwing a fit and more about "ohh okay guess I shouldnt roleplay then :(" [13:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): which is why i think the rating should have a written justification [13:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu): If I can draw a conclusion from this then [13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Inclusion is a big thing about Kokoro [13:23] Viya (furri.hiereichler): it doesnt do any good to tell someone they have a rating of 1 without saying what they can improve on you know? [13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): numbered ratings are just no good in my book [13:23] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): voting favorites without discouraging the ones that don#t do as well is fine [13:23] Reisen (extrude.ragu) knocks on the desk for silence for a moment -x- [13:24] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So [13:24] Reisen (extrude.ragu): basically, the rating system is an area that could cause problems, and if we were to implement it, we would need to work out ways to keep it fair and to not hurt people etc [13:24] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and we leave that at that for now ne [13:25] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Maybe.. everyone is a winner [13:25] Reisen (extrude.ragu): otherwise we go on and on xP [13:25] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Like, they get points for effort even if thy failed [13:25] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): they* [13:25] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah weve probably spent enough time on this topic for now lol [13:25] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): And provide training classes u v u [13:25] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hoki, I think that is alot about what teachers do, how we help them do it etc [13:26] Reisen (extrude.ragu): as a final topic, since it's the thing I'm going to be sorting out next [13:26] Reisen (extrude.ragu): lets talk about getting teachers onboard to begin with [13:26] RoyallyJinxed: (-O ? O-) [13:27] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm going to be doing the forms etc soon, so how about starting with what goes on those forms? :o [13:27] Saki (sharkeydow): Were not talking berating here though, Asking for a little improvement on their part and willing to give them the lessons needed, if they ask. Grading shouldnt have good people running for the doors. I suppose it's a matter of wording. That's just my opinion though. Numbers are the basis of a school. Not everyone is going to make it. let natural selection do it's job, I say. [13:27] Kepora Arashi: Hmmm. [13:28] Saki (sharkeydow): Hi [13:28] Kepora Arashi: Well, for forms, I'm takinga note from Black Gazza again. Have a small questionnaire deal, like explaining what IC, OOC, powergaming, metagaming, etc. are [13:28] Kepora Arashi: And have a small RP scene where they have to respond to a pre-written emote. [13:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmm [13:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Saki it's not a job though, it's for fun. [13:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that is more about vetting the teachers ne [13:29] Reisen (extrude.ragu): how about figuring out, why they want to be teachers? what do they plan to teach? etc [13:29] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): Yeah make them fill out a form and stuff [13:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah.. should the class come first, or the teacher? [13:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): like [13:29] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hows that gonna work [13:30] RoyallyJinxed: > SL Username > Name > Age > What they teach > Brief Bio > Do they actually intend on teaching something or just for fun? [13:30] RoyallyJinxed: ectect [13:30] Kepora Arashi: Yeah [13:30] Viya (furri.hiereichler): vote on a class to teach, then find a teacher for it? or a teacher can choose a class to teach, or maybe a combination of both? [13:30] Kepora Arashi: Well, I have a concept for a gym guy if you guys need one. [13:30] Reisen (extrude.ragu): personally I think that, teachers often have skills that aren't in 'the official list of skills' [13:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): and we shouldn't ignore such people [13:31] RoyallyJinxed: " Can make a long island ice tea.. from scratch." > Home ec teacher [13:31] Viya (furri.hiereichler): xD [13:31] Saki (sharkeydow): like a person who can make good bottle rockets [13:31] RoyallyJinxed: + [13:31] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3; [13:32] Kepora Arashi: I mean they may not be a GOOD teacher, but it's something. Gotta have at leas tone not-so-srious/ditz teacher. :P [13:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): perhaps what we could do is [13:32] Reisen (extrude.ragu): design some fun idea's for things teachers could teach for fun roleplay lessons.. as suggestions, and then if people want to teach other things, they can do that too if it's found to be within reason? [13:33] Kepora Arashi nods. [13:33] Saki (sharkeydow): substitute a class [13:33] Saki (sharkeydow): for an absent teacher that never existed? [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: I want to make a teacher going through a mental breakdown during a bad divorce who instead of teaching the lesson gives drunken relationship advice like " Never let your thighs go saggy, kids.. that so and so who stole my husband certainly didn't >:O" [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: lmfao [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: you know, for comedy [13:34] Kepora Arashi: Heheh. [13:34] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [13:35] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that could be quite fun :3 [13:35] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): but how are they showing up without getting fired for being irresponsible? [13:35] Elissa (brunettebabe3588): You can capture me if you touch my neck... [13:35] RoyallyJinxed: it's anime [13:35] Reisen (extrude.ragu): the students are keeping quiet about it because they find it funny is how :Y [13:35] Kepora Arashi: :P [13:35] RoyallyJinxed: " Kids, don't bring your teacher an apple. Bring her apple schnapps." [13:36] Viya (furri.hiereichler): xP [13:36] Kepora Arashi: ^ [13:36] Saki (sharkeydow): i vouch for that, I wanna learn about child support fees during Homeroom [13:36] Kepora Arashi: Heheh. [13:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Oh! that's a point [13:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): homeroom [13:36] Kepora Arashi: I could try tio find good clothign for this guy, have him as a somewhat grouchy/kinda hard-assed coach [13:36] Reisen (extrude.ragu): do we do anything with homerooms? like [13:37] Link (kotarou.orca) is online. [13:37] Reisen (extrude.ragu): that classroom you meet up in for some review style thing, and a special teacher who also acts as like your counsellor i guess [13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): atleast, that's how it worked in my old school x3 [13:38] Reisen (extrude.ragu): nobody? x3 [13:38] Saki (sharkeydow): Drunken taxes? [13:38] Kepora Arashi: I have no ideas, sorry. XD [13:39] Viya (furri.hiereichler): in my homeroom class we just sat there for 30 minutes every wednesday o3o [13:39] RoyallyJinxed: For us it was just an excuse to get you in 15 mins early and do the register lmfao [13:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): x3 [13:40] Kepora Arashi: It was basically just to corral us in the mornings. XD [13:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Hm [13:40] Kepora Arashi: And make us walk unnecessary extra distances. [13:40] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): https://tokyo5.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/japanese-vs-us-schools/ i didnt read through this entirely, but maybe this can help with something [13:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): So I'm feeling like [13:40] Saki (sharkeydow): Class to speedrun all my homeworks in so I can play Ragnarok Online? [13:40] Reisen (extrude.ragu): homerooms might not add anything of value to the school experience x3 [13:40] Saki (sharkeydow): when I get home? [13:41] Minty Elsa (poopelsa): If some teacher wants to do a homeroom class then they are free to do so I think [13:41] RoyallyJinxed: homerooms could be useful, it's just where people can meet up and chill until the actual classes start [13:42] Saki (sharkeydow): if i open a browser right now, even in game or move my camera even 1 inch, I feel my PC would be on the news for the headline, "Large explosion at 3rd floor apartment complex" [13:43] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well Ok, we'll leave homeroom as an open topic for discussion later I think, something that if we can make it work, we will consider it, otherwise it's not worth trying to force it I think :3 [13:43] Reisen (extrude.ragu): hmmm [13:44] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think, for now that is plenty of stuff for me to be thinking about in regards to teachers.. is there anything else anyone would like to add? :o [13:45] Kepora Arashi: Nothing off the top of my head. [13:45] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok :] [13:45] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): uhhh [13:45] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): what about class schedules? [13:45] Kepora Arashi: Oh, if I do a gym teacher/coach. [13:46] Kepora Arashi: Can I hit people? XD [13:46] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): is that up to teachers, or administration? [13:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): @ mio [13:46] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I plan to have some schedule software going, so people can see when lessons are and when there are free slots etc [13:47] K' (kirakiyama) is online. [13:47] Kepora Arashi: Neat! [13:47] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): that sounds good! [13:47] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): maybe there can be like uhh.. [13:47] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): a log-in option, you can click in the classroom [13:47] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): and jsut attendance goes toward your grade [13:47] K' (kirakiyama) is offline. [13:47] Kepora Arashi: That sounds neat [13:48] Viya (furri.hiereichler): eh.. attendance going towards your grade? [13:48] Viya (furri.hiereichler): im really iffy on that because [13:48] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Thats how it was in my school [13:48] Viya (furri.hiereichler): RL takes precedence [13:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think that [13:48] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): even if you were great in class, if you werent in school [13:48] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): then you fail [13:48] Reisen (extrude.ragu): for now, given the time constraints coming up to opening [13:49] Reisen (extrude.ragu): we won't worry about a system like that.. but maybe in the future, if we deem it adds something to the school and makes it more interesting/fun, we could find some point system for something like that :3 [13:49] Kepora Arashi: Five points for Reisendor [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): plus scheduling in general will probably bea little awkward [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): because time zone differences [13:50] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): everything should run on SLT [13:50] Kepora Arashi: ^ [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): but RL doesnt run on SLT [13:50] Kepora Arashi: No, but [13:50] Kepora Arashi: People can look at the clock in the top-right [13:50] Kepora Arashi: and then their own time [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): thats not what i mean [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i mean like [13:50] Viya (furri.hiereichler): a class at noon for someone [13:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): could be middle of the night for another [13:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and during a weekday, with jobs and stuff [13:51] Saki (sharkeydow): Maybe have people able to decide if their char is considered Punctual and Attentive, on their RP form, then this dictates fi theyre considered, "Always in class", even if the person isnt there to RP that? [13:51] Viya (furri.hiereichler): that complicates things [13:51] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): If you can't be there, then you can't be there. Life like life, sometimes RP just doesn't wait foe people [13:51] Kepora Arashi: What Saki said. [13:51] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Just like life* [13:51] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): for* dfhbdjgfndl [13:52] Saki (sharkeydow) whispers: just consider them "Auto-pilot" [13:52] Saki (sharkeydow): just consider them on Auto-pilot if theyre not there* [13:52] Viya (furri.hiereichler): hmm that could work [13:52] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and then teachers should keep chat logs like we do for this meeting [13:52] Viya (furri.hiereichler): so any student who wasnt able to actually attend [13:52] Viya (furri.hiereichler): can still keep up with the lesson [13:52] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think we should tune whatever system we have at the school to not disadvantage people who play less too much, however I feel like, no matter what, it's always going to be the case that people who are here more often will be more advantaged, as they are more in the loop [13:53] Viya (furri.hiereichler): and participate next time as if they werent gone [13:53] Kepora Arashi: That's just hte nature of RP online, Rei [13:53] Saki (sharkeydow): I mean, the actual population of the school probably isnt [13:53] Saki (sharkeydow): 15 students, 5 teachers [13:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): it'd be awesome if one day the school was as busy as a real school :3 [13:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok so [13:54] Kepora Arashi: Definitely. XD [13:54] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I think we can conclude the teacher stuff there [13:55] Kepora Arashi: What about my question? [13:55] Saki (sharkeydow): So it make sense if theres "Decor Students", who dont exist, in this case. The students, whom in class, do not say anything or contribute anything, beyond their own attendance/ [13:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): what was your question? I missed it [13:55] Kepora Arashi: If I go through wiht my idea and make a gym teacher/coach [13:55] Kepora Arashi: Can I hit people? XD [13:55] Saki (sharkeydow): Auto piloting would juuuust make you that until you're there to actually RP [13:55] Reisen (extrude.ragu): yes, but you'll get fired ne :P [13:56] Kepora Arashi: Laaame XD [13:56] Viya (furri.hiereichler): "accidentally" hit a student with a dodgeball [13:56] RoyallyJinxed: when in doubt, giant anime paper fan [13:56] Kepora Arashi: Or a bokken. [13:56] Kepora Arashi: *WHACK* [13:56] Dr. Kiri Taggart (kiri.taggart) is online. [13:56] Kepora Arashi: "Shoulda parried." [13:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok just a small personal progress update from me [13:56] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): why would a teacher who hits a student get fired, but a teacher who comes to school pissy drunk everyday wouldn't? xD [13:56] Reisen (extrude.ragu): since I think we can wrap up the teacher stuff [13:57] Kepora Arashi: Alright. [13:57] RoyallyJinxed: to be fair, the top notch relationship advice they'd be getting from the drunkard is vital to their futures [13:57] Kepora Arashi: Lmao, yeah [13:57] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I'm working hard on the gymnasium atm, we already have a hall, with a stage and everything, and over the next few weeks I want to add volleyball as the first game, as I think it's one of the easier ones for me to make :3 [13:58] Reisen (extrude.ragu): post opening I want to add lots more games, so look forward to that ne~ :3 [13:58] Kepora Arashi: Dodgeball and basketball. ...they have basketball in Japan, I think. XD [13:58] Saki (sharkeydow): basketball anime [13:59] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I definitely plan to add basketball :3 I'm a little time strapped though, so it'll happen post-opening x3 [13:59] Kepora Arashi: Right. [13:59] Kepora Arashi: I could add a joke about my guy being a hyena, and hyenas originating from Africa... XP [14:00] Saki (sharkeydow): zoom in on face, "GASP COULD IT BE?!" "He's Got out of that block?! The Blood line technique fo the yourougi tatsu IS REAL!! " [14:00] RoyallyJinxed: Basketballlllll [14:00] RoyallyJinxed: ? [14:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Well, it's time for the meeting to end, and I think we've covered lots, so we'll conclude the meeting here :3 [14:00] Neil Tyson will pass the ball. ...to students' faces. [14:00] Reisen (extrude.ragu): thanks for attending, mina~ [14:01] Saki (sharkeydow): i wanna space jam again now [14:01] Kepora Arashi: Glad we all got to talk about the thigns we did, adn that we're being included in this. [14:01] Kepora Arashi: I may have to ask one of you who's good with clothes to help me find a good outift(s). :P [14:01] RoyallyJinxed: lmfaooo enjoy your dinner Rei [14:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): just a note that meeting transcripts are now being kept in the schools dev-log (l http://og.kokoro.academy ) and this one will be posted there soon [14:01] Reisen (extrude.ragu): you can also find links to previous transcripts on the little board to the side of the classroom [14:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): if you're interested :3 [14:02] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): \o/ [14:02] Saki (sharkeydow): I sux at clothes, ask bingsu [14:02] Kepora Arashi: Link doesn't work. [14:02] Viya (furri.hiereichler): server not found o3o [14:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): whoops [14:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): http://log.kokoro.academy [14:02] Kepora Arashi: Bingsu? [14:02] Reisen (extrude.ragu): not og x3 [14:03] Kepora Arashi: Oh [14:03] Kepora Arashi: derp [14:03] Saki (sharkeydow): Bingsu is good at clothes [14:03] Kepora Arashi: I see their name now [14:03] Saki (sharkeydow): or Jinx [14:03] Saki (sharkeydow): or Mio [14:03] Reisen (extrude.ragu): Ok [14:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): I am litterally starving, so I'm gonna go collect my dinner XP [14:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): ok x3 [14:04] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): Have a good dindins rei [14:04] .?. ??? .?. (mai.yutani): :3 [14:04] Kepora Arashi: Later! [14:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): brb/afk o/ [14:04] Reisen (extrude.ragu): thanks again everyone! ^_^ [14:04] Viya (furri.hiereichler): nom all the carrots! [14:04] Kepora Arashi: Thank you! [14:04] Kepora Arashi: Guh, drowsy again all of a sudden @_@ [14:06] Kepora Arashi: So, what do you guys think? Two transfer characters of sorts; one's a student, scrawny, bully bait. The other's probably ex-military, like moved in from a military base or whatever and is the gym coach now? [14:06] Reisen (extrude.ragu) is offline. [14:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): two more days until the vote for supernatural powers closes o3o [14:06] Saki (sharkeydow): Now if youll excuse me, imma go TP to safety and relog before I try to budge my camera and cause my potato-hooked Calculator to explode [14:06] Saki (sharkeydow): Coputer* [14:06] Kepora Arashi: Okay [14:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i think thats an interesting character variety :o [14:06] Kepora Arashi: Vote? [14:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): i havent really decided what im going to be lol [14:06] Viya (furri.hiereichler): yeah uh [14:07] Viya (furri.hiereichler): http://kokoro.academy/ [14:07] Viya (furri.hiereichler): its like [14:08] Saki (sharkeydow) is offline. [14:09] Mashiro Tokisaki (vanhawke) is online.

#kokoro academy #tea & cake

Tea & Cake 1/04/2016

Overview:

Preperations for clubs - What’s on the forms

We’re likely to run a ‘Character Workshop’ where we discuss character design and design characters together

Lots of visions for the school uniform

Transcript:

[12:02] Reisen: Ok so, there's a few topics to cover today, but I wanted to give a few notices before we start [12:03] Reisen: the first one is a small progress update.. recently I added in a small club-room/general purpose room, and a tatami room, which still need some decorating [12:03] Reisen: we're a little short on prims right now so I'd appreciate not rezzing anything too heavy until I get those on the instance system >.< [12:04] Reisen: the second one is [12:05] Reisen: incase you were not here last meeting, we have a couple of new rules about the meetings, most importantly, I ask that you raise your hand if you'd like to speak, including if you'd like to make a comment about something a speaker said [12:05] Reisen: there will be a time at the end of the topic where [12:05] Reisen: if there's any comments you'd like to make that don't warrant a discussion, you can make them then :3 [12:06] Reisen: Ook, first topic I wanted to talk on is [12:07] Reisen: as everyones masks show, we have entered april ne :3 [12:07] Reisen: and there are a few things on the schedule outside the front of the school that I wanted to get done, the first being forms for clubs [12:08] Reisen: So I guess we start with that ne~ [12:09] Reisen: So, how about, we talk about, what will appear on the forms for creating clubs, like, what we want to know, etc? [12:09] miKaぴょん raises hand [12:09] Minty Elsa Reisens hand [12:09] Reisen: mika-pyon :3 [12:10] miKaぴょん: eros reisen mentioned a club member minimum requirement etc ne, [12:10] Reisen: Ah, so [12:10] Reisen: you think we should ask who will be the initial members? [12:10] miKaぴょん: and also this uhm [12:11] miKaぴょん: those two other roles [12:11] miKaぴょん: that represent the club [12:11] Reisen: two other roles.. [12:11] miKaぴょん: actually there is a poster on the board over there "how to found a club" [12:12] Reisen: Ok so [12:12] Reisen: we want to know who these people are [12:12] Reisen: Hmm~ [12:13] RoyallyJinxed raises hand [12:13] RoyallyJinxed: paw* [12:13] RoyallyJinxed: Nub?* [12:13] Reisen: x3 [12:13] Reisen: Ah wait Minty had something to say [12:13] Reisen: Minty first :3 [12:14] Minty Elsa: Reisen-pyon said most of my points, but also what's important is the concept of the club, ne. So what it's all about [12:14] Reisen: Hmm.. [12:14] Reisen: so like, what kind of activities it does? or should the club have some aim or goals? [12:15] Minty Elsa: No more about what activities [12:15] Reisen: how about uhm [12:16] Reisen: what rooms the club is likely to need? or perhaps, if they need extra equipment made/brought? [12:17] Reisen: nobody? x3 [12:17] RoyallyJinxed: is what I was gonna ask lol [12:17] Reisen: Ooh :x [12:17] Reisen: Ok [12:17] Reisen: was there anything else RJ wanted to bring up? [12:18] RoyallyJinxed: Nah, not that I can think of yet lol [12:18] Viya raises hand [12:18] Reisen: Viya :3 [12:18] Viya: is there going to be a maximum number of clubs? [12:19] Reisen: hmm.. I think this was a discussion point we had previously ne :o I'm trying to remember what we said about it x3 [12:19] RoyallyJinxed raises hand [12:20] Reisen: RJ :3 [12:20] RoyallyJinxed: will that club be participating in any school events maybe? [12:20] Reisen: Oooh [12:20] RoyallyJinxed: Contests/Ceremonies/ect [12:20] Reisen: hmm.. [12:21] Reisen: perhaps that should be like [12:21] Reisen: a seperate thing? I think when people are creating clubs they might not know right away :o [12:21] RoyallyJinxed: Mayhaps [12:21] Reisen: Well, I'll note it anyway :3 [12:22] RoyallyJinxed: (-O ヮ O-) [12:22] Reisen: RJ has a hand raising animation x3 [12:22] Reisen: Ok so [12:23] RoyallyJinxed: Just animated it lmfao, accidentally made nazi salute at first because of shoulder [12:23] Reisen: x3 [12:23] Reisen: gah it's so hard to concentrate when everyone is looking at me with my face xP [12:23] Viya: x3 [12:23] Reisen: um right [12:23] Vincent Wolf stares [12:23] Reisen: @_@ [12:24] Reisen: Ok so.. I think this is enough on club forms.. are there any passing comments people wanted to make before we change topic? [12:25] miKaぴょん raises hand [12:25] Reisen: mika-pyon :3 [12:25] Reisen: ( you don't need to raise your hand for passing comments) [12:25] miKaぴょん: about the maximum number of clubs [12:26] miKaぴょん: just looked through logs and it was never a topic, only how many clubs a person can join [12:26] miKaぴょん: and we even talked about allowing multiple clubs with similar activities [12:26] Reisen: ahh [12:27] Reisen: I think we will start with allowing unlimited clubs except ofcourse needing the members, and the review process should keep it in reason ne [12:28] Reisen: Ok, final comments, about to change topic~ [12:28] Reisen: going~ [12:28] Reisen: going~ [12:28] Reisen: gone [12:28] Reisen: hoki [12:28] Reisen: so [12:28] Reisen: a few of you I guess already know about my idea I had a week or so ago [12:29] Reisen: but I thought I would share it today as something small to discuss anyway :3 [12:29] Reisen: I wanted to know what you guys thought of, having like, a Character Workshop, where, periodically, we have sessions where we gather up together, work on our characters together, making nice back-stories, character designs etc together o3o [12:30] Viya: (comment or questions?) [12:30] Reisen: you can make comments or questions yes :3 [12:31] Viya: i think that sounds like an interesting idea [12:31] Dei: that sounds likea good plan o.o [12:31] Vincent Wolf: Sounds nice [12:31] Viya: and itll be nice to be able to get some input when making a character with others [12:32] Reisen: Ok, so it sounds like it is something people see some mileage in :o [12:32] Reisen: how about we talk about [12:32] Reisen: Um [12:32] Reisen: what you guys would want to get out of a character workshop [12:32] Reisen: what you'd hope would happen during a session, or how it would run :3 [12:33] Reisen: we can throw our idea's at the wall and see what sticks ne :o [12:33] Viya: would be an official-ish type event or just a sort of informal gathering? [12:33] Reisen: hmm.. [12:34] Reisen: Personally, I was sort of imagining running it as kind of like an out of character club [12:34] Reisen: but I guess there is only so much people would want to attend [12:34] Minty Elsa: It's mostly aimed at new players that might be initmidated going in blindly [12:35] Viya: that sounds like a good goal :o [12:35] Viya: i know that starting a new RP can be intimidating [12:35] Reisen: hmm [12:36] Reisen: do you think that current players would also attend it for fun? it could be a nice community building thing maybe? [12:36] RoyallyJinxed: (๑'^'๑)ﾉﾞ *Rᴀɪsᴇs Hᴀɴᴅ* [12:36] Reisen: RJ :3 [12:37] RoyallyJinxed: I feel this is a good idea but you know how people in SL can be with being overly blunt/ tending not to have a filter.. are you not worried about people possibly scaring newbies off with open.. development? [12:38] RoyallyJinxed: Not sure if that's phrased right but people may use it as an opportunity to openly bully people in the name of 'development' if their initial ideas aren't too great [12:38] RoyallyJinxed: (-Q ︿ Q-) [12:38] Reisen: hmm.. [12:39] Reisen: that's a tough one, for sure [12:40] RoyallyJinxed: I'm not disagreeing with the idea, it's just I know of one community that did something similar and their character threads turned in to a big roast fest [12:40] Reisen: We do already have that problem in some area's.. for example.. oppurtunists using the group chat as a place to start open drama/bullying [12:40] Viya: perhaps a moderator then? [12:40] RoyallyJinxed: Is what made me think of it, honestly [12:40] RoyallyJinxed: perhaps [12:40] Minty Elsa Reisens hand [12:40] Reisen: minty :3 [12:41] Minty Elsa: Ehh? I thought it was mostly gonna be like a seminar that gives you the tools and philosophies to create a well rounded character and help figure out what you want out of it? [12:41] Minty Elsa: So no judgements should be applied to people to begin wiht, ne? [12:42] Reisen: hmmm.. [12:42] Reisen: actually this raises a pretty good point [12:43] Alex MacPherson entered the region (860.04 m). [12:43] Reisen: I think.. it's healthy to have some debate during character building, if we had no judgement what so ever, people would just be in the dark and not sure if people actually like their characters or not [12:44] Reisen: but on the same side [12:44] Reisen: like RJ says, it is a chance to bully people which can be bad [12:44] Saki raises hand [12:44] Reisen: maybe if we were to combine having like.. [12:45] Reisen: A seminar at the start, giving out the tools/philosophies etc.. and then the second half we design characters together in an open discussion.. and like viya said, have a moderator to try to keep it civil? [12:45] Reisen: would that be a good compromise? [12:46] Viya: mhm. though should also put out some limits [12:46] Saki lowers hand [12:46] Reisen: ow [12:46] Reisen: Ok [12:46] Viya: like if powers get voted yes, give a short list of like "no god powers" stuff like that [12:46] Reisen: so.. [12:47] Reisen: ah, yes, we'll definitely guide people to design characters that fit the school guidelines [12:47] Saki: Yea that, and maybe just have them, themselves decide if they want the 2nd part or not. Some do have their characters figured out already. [12:47] Reisen: Oooh [12:47] Reisen: a decision.. [12:48] Reisen: hum [12:48] Reisen: what if we split it into two sessions? [12:48] Minty Elsa: Ehh? Its all on voluntary basis anyways ne [12:48] Reisen: one could be just talking on concepts with no judgement, and the other could be designing our characters together [12:48] Reisen: and people could just choose what they want to attend? [12:49] Viya: hm yeah that could work :o but then what do we do for those who dont attend but want to rp? just have them fill out a character form to be approved or something? [12:50] Saki: That sounds fine, and if its refused and they ask whats needs to be fixed, you can point them to the workshop. [12:51] Reisen: The approval process, or whether we even have one is a topic we were discussing when you were not here, we're still undecided on whether we use forms or approve characters etc or how that works [12:51] Reisen: but perhaps if we did have an approval process, the character workshop would certainly aid it [12:52] Viya nods [12:52] Reisen: Oook [12:52] Reisen: So I think it's fair to say this was a well received idea ne :3 I'm glad I brought it up [12:53] Reisen: to draw a few conclusions, we have concerns about people being judgemental to tackle, and people not wanting to be judged, and so we have two seperate sessions, one which is non judgemental advice etc, and the other is designing together [12:54] Reisen: I think that will be enough about the Character workshop for now, are there any last comments people want to make before we move on? :o [12:55] Reisen: x3 Ok [12:56] Reisen: the last thing today, is not really a topic but I thought it'd be something to do [12:56] Reisen: mika has made some model people with uniform cut-outs that we can recolor and stuff, and I thought it would be nice to play around with the colors, just to get some nice base color idea's for the uniform.. would everyone like a copy to play with? :3 [12:56] RoyallyJinxed: (-O ヮ O-) [12:56] Viya: yus [12:57] Reisen: hoki~ [12:57] Reisen: let me pass them out then :o [12:57] Reisen: mika need a copy? :P [12:57] miKaぴょん: no (^^;; [12:57] Reisen: x3 [12:58] Minty Elsa: How are we meant to use them? [12:58] Minty Elsa: Also Reisen needs to respect the pronouns of your fellow Reisenkin, ne [12:58] Saki: maybe rez it on top of our heads In avatar Center slot? [12:58] Reisen: if you just rez them besides you or near you on the floor [12:59] RoyallyJinxed: it doesn't like textures XD [12:59] Reisen: and what you can do is use the select face tool to recolour the parts [12:59] miKaぴょん: oooooops [12:59] Reisen: ow x3 [12:59] RoyallyJinxed: ah, if you switch it to planar it kinda works [12:59] Reisen: ah, nice save~ o3o [13:00] miKaぴょん: actually had in mind to make it texturable (ーー;) [13:01] Viya: wish you could show trim on these though [13:01] Viya: ah well [13:01] Viya really likes trim [13:03] Reisen: somehow this came out looking really irish [13:03] Viya: xP [13:04] Reisen: mika is not going to have a play? :o [13:06] Amako entered the region (860.01 m). [13:07] Amako entered chat range (3.37 m). [13:07] Reisen: hi hi Amako :3 [13:07] Reisen: do you wanna play with mika's figures with us? :o [13:07] Amako: no, im fine [13:08] Reisen: suit yourself~ [13:08] Viya: ..i always manage to use black in my color schemes [13:08] Reisen: we're trying to come up with a nice colour scheme for the school uniforms :3 [13:08] Amako: mm [13:08] Minty Elsa: We could put them on the wall ne... [13:08] Viya: put them on the wall the screenshot them so it uses less Li [13:09] Saki: mine looks like a Hitman school in terms of colors [13:09] Minty Elsa: I think we will live [13:09] Minty Elsa: it's just temporary [13:09] RoyallyJinxed: slenderman school [13:09] Reisen: x3 [13:09] Reisen: saki's one looks like a secret agent [13:10] Saki: when the bell rings [13:10] Saki: you play Secret Agent Man [13:12] Minty Elsa: Where should we put them then, Reisen [13:12] Reisen: uuum~ [13:12] Reisen: if you're happy with your design [13:13] Reisen: we'll put them against [13:13] Reisen: this wall ne :3 [13:13] Minty Elsa: We have a free blackboard in the back too, Reisen [13:13] Reisen: oooh that's true o3o [13:13] Minty Elsa: could just get up [13:13] Reisen: Ok [13:13] Reisen: actually no [13:14] Reisen: I think we should have them on the floor as [13:14] Reisen: the wall is a more neutral colour than the green board [13:14] Ina 化け猫 CatLynx entered the region (859.19 m). [13:14] Viya: wait, the floor or the wall? [13:14] Reisen: the floor :P [13:14] Reisen: here :3 [13:14] Minty Elsa: just put yours up first [13:15] Reisen: what I might do is [13:15] Reisen: doodle some designs with different peoples colour schemes [13:15] Reisen: or um [13:15] Reisen: mika showed me a flash dress up game that might work for that too [13:16] Reisen squeaks ~♪ [13:16] miKaぴょん: think instead of generating even more ideas [13:16] miKaぴょん: it would make sense to make some decisions soon [13:17] miKaぴょん: so was thinking you play with that flash game to find some shapes and outfit combinations based on what we collected [13:17] miKaぴょん: since your vision counts most anyway [13:17] Reisen: you think we should try to decide on overal colours? [13:17] Minty Elsa: still a tight fit back there [13:17] Viya: yeah it is [13:17] Reisen is more interested to see what we come up with [13:18] Reisen: i don't really have a huge vision for this, all i know is [13:18] Reisen: it's gotta be not just my uniform [13:18] Reisen: but everyones [13:18] Reisen: so [13:18] Viya: im just partial to contrasting colors [13:18] Reisen: my idea's are just idea's ne x3 [13:18] Viya: also 3 tone color schemes [13:19] Reisen: do Saki and Dei want to put their figures on the wall with everyone elses then? :o [13:19] Dei: -nod- [13:20] Reisen: hoki, please go ahead :3 [13:21] Viya: saki? [13:24] Minty Elsa: its still hard to see them behind the chairs [13:24] Reisen: humm [13:24] Reisen: if you zoom in on one uniform [13:24] Reisen: and use [13:25] Reisen: alt+ctrl+shift, whilst clicking on that uniform [13:25] Reisen: you can move the camera side to side [13:25] Reisen: without it going into the chairs i mean [13:25] Viya: firestorm also has a camera control feature [13:25] Viya: you can pan and rotate the camera by clicking arrow buttonson the screen [13:26] Viya: as well as alt+left click to target the camera on something [13:26] Reisen: some interesting colour schemes here [13:26] Reisen: the blue one reminds me of an anime.. [13:26] Reisen: um [13:26] Reisen: forgot the name of it though x3 [13:27] Reisen: are their any [13:27] Reisen: colors of things [13:27] Reisen: people particularly like, just looking through these? [13:27] Dei: I like the pattern on the first one :O [13:28] Viya: i like dark and light color contrast, and prefer solid colors myself [13:28] miKaぴょん: yes even without pattern, always liked jinxs version [13:28] Reisen: hmmm [13:28] Reisen: I definitely like the pattern, but I feel like [13:28] Reisen: it shouldn't be on the bottoms [13:29] Reisen: It looks like pajama's x3 [13:29] Reisen: to me :3 [13:29] Minty Elsa: I think a plaid pattern is fine for girls, for bozs however you end up looking like an old man ready to go golfing [13:29] Viya: lol yeah that is a good point [13:29] Reisen: xP [13:29] Dei: xD [13:29] Reisen: but at the same time [13:29] Reisen: if you have it on only the girls [13:29] Reisen: it might look a bit inconsistent? [13:29] RoyallyJinxed: http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1J9P4HVXXXXcLXpXXq6xXFXXX3/Athemis-Blue-Coat-Tartan-Trousers-Anime-Axis-Powers-Hetalia-APH-Cosplay-Costumes-Cool-Man-Suit-School.jpg [13:29] Dei: it could be on the boys tie :O ? [13:30] Reisen: what if we took the pattern, and put it somewhere else? [13:30] Minty Elsa: Most school uniforms have plaid patterns on girls and more plain ones for boys [13:30] Reisen: like, we put it on the tie/bow/whatever we have there [13:30] Minty Elsa: you could fancy up the tie with it [13:30] RoyallyJinxed: http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB19c3mHVXXXXX5XXXXq6xXFXXXQ/Athemis-Blue-Coat-font-b-Tartan-b-font-font-b-Trousers-b-font-Anime-Axis-Powers.jpg [13:31] RoyallyJinxed: Is just personal preference lol [13:31] Reisen is still feeling like they attend pajama high :x [13:31] Viya: not sure i like the color scheme though [13:32] Viya: the brown is fine but that bluegreen doesnt sit well with me for some reason [13:32] MOKEY™ entered the region (859.93 m). [13:32] Reisen: hmmm~ [13:33] Reisen: I think I like the colours, but maybe it could lose some brightness, or again be put in a not so large area [13:33] Reisen: ow i'ms tanding x3 [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: http://img01.cp.aliimg.com/imgextra/i3/836621381/T2PlVvXetNXXXXXXXX_!!836621381.jpg [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: could do something like that [13:34] Viya: what if flipped the tie/bow and bottoms textures for both gender uniforms? [13:34] RoyallyJinxed: I think it's pretty [13:35] Reisen: oo~ [13:35] Reisen: that's a kind of nice idea o3o [13:35] Reisen: the lines down the blazer I mean [13:35] RoyallyJinxed: http://static.zerochan.net/Uta.no☆prince-sama♪.full.1072370.jpg [13:35] Viya: pinstripes? [13:35] RoyallyJinxed: mhhhm [13:36] RoyallyJinxed: could make the blue more kokoro colours and the brown pants would contrast nicely [13:36] Reisen: that's a thought [13:36] Reisen: what if [13:36] Minty Elsa: I thought these were meant to decide the basic color scheme for now though, ne? [13:36] Reisen: x3 [13:36] Reisen: minty might be right [13:37] Viya: hmm minty is right, once we figure out the color scheme in general then we can focus on which design or designs with that color to make [13:37] Reisen: what about an inverted version of RJ's scheme? [13:37] Viya: and with more designs of the same color scheme there will be more variety while still looking uniform at the same time [13:37] Reisen: with like [13:37] Reisen: the bottoms being brown, and the top being colour [13:38] Viya: hmm.. i feel like the brown could look a little more dull [13:39] Reisen: side by side view x3 [13:39] Reisen: hmmm [13:40] Reisen: this is hard ne :o ~ [13:40] RoyallyJinxed: would perhaps make the shirt darker/more teal [13:40] Viya: eh i just still dont like those colors :s [13:40] Minty Elsa: I am not into that blue at all. I think it's missing a green color [13:41] Reisen: i was trying to get close to the overall colour of the pattern x3 [13:41] Reisen is pretty bad at it though x3 [13:41] Viya: what if the blue was green, like in reisen or minty's bottoms, and the top was a lighter brown? [13:42] Minty Elsa: I am of the firm belief that green and gold need to be represented somewhere in the uniform [13:42] Viya: dark green skirt with gold plaid? [13:42] Reisen: well I mean [13:42] Reisen: gold can be worked into the fine details I think [13:42] Minty Elsa: I think we should look at the other color schemes too ne [13:43] Viya: maybe we should do this with each color scheme [13:43] Viya: have discussion on what makes it better [13:43] Viya: then after all that decide which final one we like best? [13:43] Reisen: we can try that :o [13:43] Viya: rather than just pointing and saying "that one" [13:44] Reisen: umm [13:44] Reisen: shall we start with the far right? [13:44] Viya: sure [13:44] Minty Elsa: yuh [13:44] Reisen: Dei's design [13:44] Reisen: hmm [13:45] Reisen: Dei's design I really like the colour harmony in, personally [13:45] Minty Elsa: I like the harmony of it. The conservative dark top with a brighter bottom to make it playful [13:45] Viya: i rather like it as well [13:45] Viya: would a gold trim go with it? [13:45] Minty Elsa: it is something that could be transferred to a different set of colors [13:45] Reisen: the guys don't get to be playful though o3o [13:46] Minty Elsa: Male uniforms do tend to be a bit more boring in general, ne [13:46] Reisen: x3 [13:46] Dei: o u o [13:46] Reisen: should they be? what do we want people to think of the males at our school? o3o [13:46] Reisen: inb4 inferior [13:46] Minty Elsa: If you get too playful the males might feel their masculinity is threatened though [13:46] Minty Elsa: they are inferior though [13:47] Reisen: lol [13:47] Reisen: poor males D: [13:47] Viya: well you could always [13:47] Viya: have multiple variations of the same scheme [13:47] Viya: so any guys who want the brighter blue pants could go with that if they prefer [13:47] Reisen: they are a rareity in sl don'tcha know [13:47] Reisen: we need to make them feel extra special o3o [13:47] Reisen: hmm~ :3 [13:48] Dei: my masculinity is threatened dull pants or not ;u; [13:48] Reisen: so [13:48] Minty Elsa: they can have a tophat [13:48] Reisen: xD [13:48] Reisen: we could actually give them one of those caps [13:48] Reisen: that taper off on one side [13:48] Reisen: o3o [13:49] Reisen: might backfire and make them all look like farmers [13:49] Dei: < u > xDD [13:49] Vincent Wolf: Wearing hats is annoying in SL..never fits with your hair [13:49] Reisen: that's true [13:49] Viya: that about sums up hats lol [13:49] Reisen: Ok so [13:50] Reisen: we like the colour harmony, the males of our school might find their uniforms a bit dull though [13:50] Reisen: how about um [13:50] Reisen: the colors themselves? [13:50] Vincent Wolf: btw..are guys getting gakuran, or vest-based as the dummies show? [13:51] Reisen: we're not sure yet :3 [13:51] Viya: i love the colors personally [13:51] Minty Elsa: I think they are fine in and as of itself [13:52] Viya: still wonder if you could fit some gold in somewhere but iunno, other than that i really like the colors themselves and the way they contrast [13:52] Reisen: I feel like minty wanted to put a but in there [13:52] Minty Elsa: No buts here [13:52] Minty Elsa: except for yours [13:52] Reisen: -x- [13:52] Reisen: well [13:52] Reisen: Ok [13:53] Reisen: I like the colors myself, and espescially the harmony, but I have doubts about.. whether it would fit in, in the school? [13:53] miKaぴょん: Mika actually thought about using those colors before [13:53] Vincent Wolf: talking about the most right one, right? [13:53] Viya: yeah [13:53] Reisen: yes [13:53] Vincent Wolf: the navy academy [13:54] miKaぴょん: it separates the people from the "background" but is still about the same brightness value and not too much contrast [13:54] Viya: eh? o.O [13:54] Viya: theres a lot of contrast though.. [13:54] Viya: well, on the girl uniform anyway [13:54] miKaぴょん: contrast to the school environment colors [13:54] miKaぴょん: as compared to the yellow one for example [13:55] Minty Elsa: I think it does contrast a lot with the whole color scheme of the school. I am worried that the colors might end up looking too much like they don't belong to the school? [13:55] Minty Elsa: though it is conceptually not bad at all [13:55] Reisen: I'm wondering if the skirt could take on the same as the males pants [13:56] Reisen: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wmfKDb-_Ino/hqdefault.jpg [13:56] Viya: mm. not as a solid color [13:56] Viya: similar colors work if they have differing patterns [13:56] Viya: otehrwise they blend too much [13:57] Reisen: I see o3o [13:57] Viya: like in that picture she has a plaid skirt [13:57] Viya: so even though its a similar shade it still stands out as separate from the rest of the uniform [13:58] Reisen: hummm.. [14:00] Reisen: Ok the blue one has the advantage it doesn't blend into the background, and has a nice colour harmony, but the disadvantage is that there's nothing that really stands out about it that links it back to where it's from [14:01] Reisen: shall we go onto the next? o3o [14:01] Reisen: or you wanna try making a derrivation of it? o3o [14:01] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (59) there is 7 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [14:01] Minty Elsa: I think it is fine already [14:01] Viya: hmm.. no variations i can think of [14:02] Reisen: I meant like [14:02] Reisen: you could try for example [14:02] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (67) there is 7 minutes until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [14:02] Reisen: moving the hue slider on everything by the same amount [14:02] Reisen: so as to keep the harmony but with different colours [14:02] Viya: mm i like the colors as is though [14:02] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (69) there is 6 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [14:03] Reisen: hrmm.. [14:03] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (79) there is 6 minutes until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [14:03] Reisen: Ok, well we'll leave that as it is ne :3 [14:03] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) Not enough prims left (75) there is 5 minutes and 30 seconds until objects auto-return. A user will be picked when there are 5 minutes left. [14:03] Reisen: how about this next one, minty's [14:04] Reisen: is your design that the male is different to the female, or two different designs, minty? o3o [14:04] Minty Elsa: Ehh? [14:04] Minty Elsa: its male and female design [14:04] Minty Elsa: with the yellow tie I wanted to suggest that the tie of the boys is dominantly golden and the one of the females dominantly green [14:04] Reisen: hoki :3 [14:04] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) User Minty Elsa will have their objects returned in 4 minutes and 30 seconds. [14:05] Minty Elsa: but I had no real idea for the boys so eh [14:05] Reisen: what I like about Minty's is [14:05] Lag-Chan: (Admin Message) There are now enough prims left in the sim. [14:05] Reisen: she's managed to use mostly the same colours for both uniforms [14:05] Reisen: without the males pants/females skirt looking weird [14:06] Reisen: by flipping the colors around on both [14:06] Reisen: atleast, I feel that way [14:06] Reisen: am i the only one? o3o [14:06] Viya: humm.. im not sure about white for the guys' pants, but i really like how those colors work for the girls uniform [14:07] Viya: maybe a gold strip at the bottom of the girls skirt and itll be perfect :o [14:07] Viya: stripe* [14:07] Reisen: I definitely like the blouse/skirt colour [14:07] Reisen: but I feel like maybe the blouse could use a tiiiny bit more saturation [14:08] Reisen: what I'm not so keen on [14:08] Reisen: is the black under shirt [14:08] Minty Elsa: how so [14:08] Reisen: hum [14:08] Reisen: for example [14:08] Reisen: during summer [14:08] Reisen: it'll be very strange to see someone with a green skirt and a black shirt [14:09] Reisen: I think anyway [14:09] Viya: i thought that was the shirt [14:09] Viya: and the black was just trim or something [14:09] Reisen: it's not a practical colour, as it would make people get very hot [14:09] Vincent Wolf: white pants are scary! [14:10] Minty Elsa: Ohh I can see your point [14:10] Reisen: which is why shirts are normally a bright colour and blazers a dark one ne [14:10] Viya: what if the shirt is white with a black jacket? [14:10] Reisen: because blazers are meant to keep you warm whilst shirts are meant to be cool [14:10] Minty Elsa: I don't want to justify my design choice too much [14:10] Vincent Wolf: depends on just how warm it gets...in desert they wear black for a reason [14:11] Minty Elsa: But one thing oyu could do with this scheme is make it a vest for the summer or something more airy [14:11] Viya: in summer you just wear the shirt dont you? [14:12] Reisen: mm typically [14:12] Viya: what about a black vest for winter instead? [14:13] Minty Elsa: Hmm a lot of japanese schools have different wear for summer and winter, net [14:13] Minty Elsa: but thats besides the point [14:13] Minty Elsa: so the black shirt is not so good [14:14] Reisen: Ok [14:14] Reisen: how about Viya's design next, thoughts? [14:15] Reisen: (the yellow and black one) [14:15] Minty Elsa: it makes me think a lot of Reisen's uniform [14:15] Reisen: its funny you say that [14:15] Reisen: in some games I make appearances in [14:15] Reisen: my skirt is also that yellow colour [14:16] Vincent Wolf: prolly needs tartar/plaid pattern instead of solid yellow [14:16] Reisen: mm, I could see the colour scheme working, it's a workable set of colours [14:16] Yukari Sawa entered the region (859.46 m). [14:17] Reisen: espescially with yeah, patterns etc [14:18] Reisen: not sure how I feel about the bows matching the pants in this case [14:18] Reisen: could like nicer with maybe a wine red/pinkish bow? [14:18] Viya: for just the girls or is the yellow tie good for the guys? [14:19] Reisen: hmm.. I think both [14:19] Reisen: would make more sense [14:19] Reisen: ah but now it really looks like my uniform XP [14:21] Minty Elsa: So it's a very Reisen look [14:21] Reisen: =w= [14:21] Minty Elsa: which might be a bit too similiar to how she runs around ne [14:21] Minty Elsa: Reisen will have to wear something else [14:21] Reisen: yuh [14:21] Reisen: I think [14:21] Viya: reisen has pink though [14:21] Reisen: for that selfish reason [14:22] Reisen: I don't think we should have that design X3 [14:22] postman entered the region (859.40 m). [14:22] Reisen: but that is me being selfish and not wanting my non-uniform to blend into the uniforms [14:22] Vincent Wolf: keep black for suits for the teachers you mean? [14:22] Reisen: yuh [14:23] Reisen: I think that is probably a safe bet [14:23] Viya: no black for students makes me sad.. heh [14:23] Reisen: xP [14:23] Vincent Wolf: no gakurans then, hehe [14:24] Vincent Wolf: although black pants/skirt might still be possible [14:24] Reisen: a coloured gakuran could be interesting [14:24] Minty Elsa: next one theeen [14:24] Reisen: oook [14:24] Reisen: my dumb all green design [14:24] Minty Elsa: I do enjoy the shades of green itself a lot [14:24] Minty Elsa: very good shades [14:25] Reisen: I was sort of imagining this but [14:25] Vincent Wolf: but could use a bit more contrast between greens [14:25] Viya: i think there at least needs to be a pattern difference if you want to keep similar greens [14:25] Reisen: with gold trims [14:25] Reisen: and white frills [14:25] Minty Elsa: the design is very conservative looking however. It feels kinda really rich and oxfordlike. Like I imagine the boy uniform to have one of these wool vests [14:25] Vincent Wolf: cardigans was the term, i think? [14:26] Minty Elsa: yes [14:26] Minty Elsa: green cardigans [14:26] Reisen: is rich and oxfordlike a bad thing? o3o [14:26] Minty Elsa: depends on what you want, ne [14:26] Reisen: x3 [14:26] Vincent Wolf: depends how classy this school is:P [14:26] Reisen: well [14:26] Reisen: I always felt like the school should be a bit classy [14:26] Minty Elsa: this one is definitely very high class and business [14:27] Reisen: but the uniform would not be so plain remember [14:27] Reisen: I'd add fun details and stuff with gold [14:27] Minty Elsa: Hmhm [14:27] Vincent Wolf: do we get berets too? :P [14:27] Reisen: only the cute loli's -w- [14:27] Reisen: get berets [14:27] Reisen: :P [14:27] Minty Elsa: Mika still needs one [14:27] Reisen: x3 [14:28] Reisen: berets could look a bit armyish [14:28] Reisen: with green and gold [14:28] Vincent Wolf: just have to be careful that it wont become military colors when using green [14:28] Reisen: yuh [14:28] Minty Elsa: I am not sure how playful you could make it without it looking too off. It is definitely not bad in itself [14:28] Reisen: kokoro military academy [14:29] Reisen: someone should make a club called that [14:29] Reisen: with toy tanks -w- [14:29] Vincent Wolf: Reisen the Third, drilling students into a disciplined army of killers [14:29] Reisen: wink wink nudge nudge :P [14:29] Reisen: x3 [14:29] Reisen: huum [14:29] Reisen: so [14:29] Reisen: with my design [14:29] Viya: KA ROTC :o [14:30] Reisen: the colours give a classy feel, but maybe could be spruced up to make more fun [14:30] Reisen: as atm is a bit boring [14:31] Reisen: huuum~ [14:31] Vincent Wolf: light green plaid with teh dark green of the skirt? [14:32] Reisen: ooo [14:32] Reisen: that could be interesting [14:32] Viya: i think dark green plaid with gold on the skirt would look better personally [14:32] Viya: plaid on a shirt is like.. for lumberjacks [14:32] Vincent Wolf: skirt [14:32] Vincent Wolf: not shirt [14:32] Viya: ohh [14:32] Viya: my bad [14:32] Viya: i read that as shirt [14:32] Vincent Wolf: i choose light green instead of gold, to keep teh classy idea ..as high contrast (gold) make it more playful [14:33] Reisen squeaks [14:33] Viya: shouldnt we go for a little playful? [14:33] Viya: i mean [14:33] Vincent Wolf: a little yeah [14:33] Reisen: sorry, am I keeping everyone too long, it's been 2 and a half hours :o [14:33] Reisen just looked at the time x3 [14:33] Minty Elsa: We are almost thorugh [14:33] Viya: looking too classy will make us look like some kinda [14:34] Viya: super exclusive private school [14:34] Vincent Wolf: thats why we add plaid to it :P [14:34] Reisen: super exclusive private school might not be so bad a look though [14:34] Reisen: it's like [14:34] Reisen: the school everyone wants to be in, ne o3o [14:34] Vincent Wolf: will we get leather seats and marble floors now? [14:35] Viya: i dont wanna be in a super exclusive private school ._. [14:35] RoyallyJinxed: my school had marble floors and it sucked ass [14:35] Viya: rich students are snobs.. [14:35] Vincent Wolf: it wasnt run by bunnies, RJ [14:35] Reisen: yuh -x- [14:35] Reisen: RJ's school lacked bunnies [14:35] Reisen squeaks ~♪ [14:35] RoyallyJinxed: head teacher had 12 kids so it's debatable [14:35] Vincent Wolf: LOL [14:35] Reisen: wat [14:35] Reisen: holy [14:36] Reisen: can you imagine that persons life [14:36] Reisen: raising 12 kids and running a fancy school with marble floors [14:36] RoyallyJinxed: Ballin + lots of sex [14:36] RoyallyJinxed: LOL [14:36] Reisen: @_@ [14:36] Vincent Wolf: was head teacher male or female? [14:36] RoyallyJinxed: male [14:36] Vincent Wolf: harem then huh [14:36] Minty Elsa: We are almost finished, guys [14:37] Reisen: do we want to look at RJ's design again or are we happy with what was said earlier? [14:37] Minty Elsa: it's 6th period for me too [14:37] RoyallyJinxed is obv biased when it comes to my design [14:37] Minty Elsa: on his design I like the plaid pattern, but I am not big into the teal. The brown could work overally. [14:37] Vincent Wolf: personally, I dont like the idea of brown tops/jackets/cardigans...prefer full green over that [14:37] Viya: i dont like the teal either [14:38] Vincent Wolf: although the natural colors fit the school's current atmosphere [14:38] Reisen: hmm [14:38] Minty Elsa: I think the plaid pattern could work with the golden lining and a more grassy, foresty green [14:38] RoyallyJinxed: why not decide how the uniform is gonna look, then go for colours? [14:38] Viya: honestly i dont know why [14:38] Minty Elsa: Cause we gotta start somewhere [14:38] Viya: yeah green with gold plaid would probably look pretty good [14:38] Reisen: if we started with look we would have said why don't we start with colours x3 [14:38] RoyallyJinxed: yeah but it'll be easier to see how the colours actually look if the uniform is done [14:38] Minty Elsa: gold on a dark green has a very classy vibe [14:39] Minty Elsa: two ways to mount the horse, ne [14:39] Reisen: sounds lewd [14:39] Reisen: huuum [14:39] Reisen: I think the colours are ok, I like the pattern alot and would like to work it or a derrivative into the uniform somehow [14:40] Reisen: but the brown is [14:40] Reisen: so-so [14:40] Reisen: it's not rocking my world [14:40] Reisen: but it's also nice in a way too [14:40] RoyallyJinxed: would also like to point out that tartan looks much brighter on model [14:40] Minty Elsa: the plaid pattern is certainly something that can work well [14:41] RoyallyJinxed: it's actually quite dark on the other 3 versions, idk why it looks so bright here [14:41] Reisen: maybe fullbright? [14:42] RoyallyJinxed: I also made a two tone tartan, too [14:42] RoyallyJinxed: all 3 are on that pyramid there [14:42] Reisen: RJ is good at making patterns ne~ [14:43] Reisen: can I have copy incase I'd like to try using them on something later? :o [14:43] Reisen: the textures I mean :o [14:43] Vincent Wolf: He is the PatternPug [14:43] RoyallyJinxed: sure, thought they're quite low rez [14:43] RoyallyJinxed: since I did it quick [14:43] Reisen: that's fine :3 [14:43] Saki: back [14:44] RoyallyJinxed: they should be full perm in there [14:44] Reisen: So [14:44] Minty Elsa: I think what we do have now is a lot of nice green shades [14:44] Reisen: the sort of vibes i'm going [14:44] Reisen: left to right [14:45] Vincent Wolf: so we decided on a single color to use....green :P [14:45] Reisen: we like RJ's patterns, we think maybe my greens can work if we add some golds and playful stuff, Viya's black/yellow one we felt might mix with the teachers too much, we like minty's top contrast with the skirt, and we like Dei's colour harmony o3o [14:46] Reisen: is that all fair to say? o3o [14:46] Vincent Wolf: we need 3 colors for the ribbon/tie...a color for each year :P [14:46] Minty Elsa: I think there is a lot we can take away from all of them then [14:47] Minty Elsa: oh you also liked the color swap idea for boys and girls [14:47] Reisen: yes that is true also o3o [14:47] Reisen: Ok [14:47] Reisen: well, there's certainly alot to think about here [14:48] Reisen: I'm going to save the transcript and it'll be on that board infront of me later [14:49] Reisen: I think we can conclude the meeting here for now? [14:49] Minty Elsa: yuh [14:49] Minty Elsa: Reisen is tired [14:49] Reisen: Alright :3 [14:49] Minty Elsa: and Reisen can't keep his feet still [14:49] Reisen: I am a little x3 [14:49] Minty Elsa: Reisen probably fell asleep [14:49] Reisen: D: [14:49] Reisen: i'm not a he [14:49] Viya: the other reisen [14:49] Reisen: wait a minute =x= [14:49] Minty Elsa: was not talking about you, Reisen [14:49] Reisen: >x> [14:49] Minty Elsa: Ring the bell, Reisen [14:49] Reisen: you butts [14:50] Reisen: Ok

Tea & Cake 18/03/2016

Overview:

New meeting rules

Lag-Chan changes/Improvements needed

Uniforms: Deciding colors

Transcript:

[12:04] Reisen: ooo [12:04] Reisen: nice thinking [12:05] Reisen: ok fixed [12:05] Reisen: Cool [12:05] Reisen: Sorry about that x3 [12:05] Reisen: and thanks for quick thinking [12:05] Amako: waff [12:05] Amako: yay for fixes [12:06] Minty Elsa: How [12:06] Reisen: Oook [12:06] Minty Elsa: His mika today [12:06] miKaぴょん: /(=╹x╹=)\？？ [12:06] Reisen: we have a few topics to discuss today [12:07] Reisen: but, first I wanted to talk on some new meeting rules [12:07] Reisen: to help make the meetings a bit more efficient in the future [12:08] Reisen: Ok, so basically, I want to change the way we run meetings a little, so everyone gets a better chance to be heard [12:08] Reisen: but for that to be the case, some people are going to have to be heard less ne x3 [12:09] Reisen: So, my first rule is that, comments should be kept short, no more than 2 or 3 sentences, and limited to max 1 question [12:10] Reisen: I'm guilty of asking multiple questions of once myself [12:10] Reisen: and sometimes someone has 5 idea's at once and wants to write a paragraph [12:10] Saki: cough [12:10] Reisen: but we avoid this because it actually slows down the discussion and disorients it [12:10] Reisen: if you have multiple idea's [12:10] Reisen: or multiple questions [12:11] Reisen: just give the first one, and then raise your hand again [12:11] Reisen: any questions so far? :o [12:12] Saki raises hand [12:12] Reisen points to Saki :3 [12:12] Saki: Do you mean no long comments/replies/reactions only or do suggestions follow the same 2-3 sentences rule? [12:13] Reisen: comments, replies, reactions, everything, should be just a 2 or 3 sentences :3 [12:13] Reisen: this way everyone gets a chance [12:13] Saki raises hand again [12:14] Reisen: Saki? [12:14] Saki: 1 question per meeting or 1 per topic/subtopic/suggestion? [12:14] Sebastian S. Makonnen is online. [12:14] Reisen: One question per turn [12:14] Reisen: so [12:14] Reisen: when I point at saki [12:15] Reisen: it is her turn [12:15] Reisen: we could add a limit per topic too in theory [12:16] RoyallyJinxed: (-Q ︿ Q-) [12:16] Reisen: but not discussing that right now [12:16] Reisen: perhaps if it really becomes a problem [12:16] Reisen: any more questions? :3 [12:16] Saki raises hand [12:16] Reisen: x3 [12:16] Reisen: last one~ [12:16] Reisen: go on then [12:17] Sebastian S. Makonnen is offline. [12:17] Saki: What if we joint two questions into one? like "What if cookies come from trees? Can we still eat them?" [12:17] Saki: does it count as 1 or 2? [12:17] Reisen: that counts as 2 [12:17] Reisen: Any more questions? [12:18] Sebastian S. Makonnen is online. [12:18] Saki: Im gonna need to tactically form my questions [12:18] Reisen: Ok, next rule then [12:19] Reisen: One of the tempting things to do is [12:19] Reisen: espescially in heated debates [12:19] Reisen: if someone makes a question to the moderator [12:19] Reisen: it can be tempted to butt in and be like [12:19] Reisen: noo that's a crazy idea reasons reasons reasons [12:20] Reisen: but I think [12:20] Reisen: after last meeting [12:20] Reisen: we should make it a rule that reactions count as a turn, and you have to raise your hands for those too [12:20] Reisen: because often it spirals into a crazy discussion where everyone speaks over each other [12:21] RoyallyJinxed raises hand [12:21] Reisen: jinxed? :3 [12:21] RoyallyJinxed: About that, perhaps there people could do sort of a * Hand raise-related* sort of thing so they can make their comment before the topic changes? [12:22] Reisen: Yes, that's a good idea [12:22] Saki raises hand [12:22] Reisen: if you are raising your hand in response to a comment [12:23] Reisen: you should write that it is related [12:23] Reisen: so yeah [12:23] Reisen: write *hand raise-related* [12:23] Reisen: and the moderator will pick you before the topic is changed [12:23] RoyallyJinxed: (-^‿‿^-) [12:23] Reisen: Saki? :3 [12:24] unico Bailey is online. [12:25] Saki: I make alot of passing comments that are oft related to the topic, but warrants no response. Will those need my hand raised too? In other words, Will I have to remain silent, otherwise? [12:25] Reisen: hm [12:25] Saki: e.g. "Last meeting went so rowdy blahblahblahblah" and I comment "Could be why were only 6 now" [12:26] Reisen: I think [12:26] Reisen: for the sake of keeping the meeting moving [12:26] Reisen: I'm going to say, if you really want to say it, raise your hand, if it is not important enough for the meeting, perhaps share it after the meeting ends [12:27] Reisen: would that be fair? [12:27] Reisen: ]oop [12:27] Reisen: x3 [12:27] Reisen: nobody is saying anything :P [12:28] Reisen: Ok then I assume it is fair @_@ [12:28] Reisen: so [12:28] Saki: Thats, because wed need to raise our hands to say something, I think.. [12:28] Reisen: well [12:28] Reisen: if a moderator asks if you agree on something [12:29] Reisen: then it is ok to answer ne [12:29] Saki: We need like, little O and X sticks [12:29] Reisen: x3 [12:30] Reisen: Ok quickly the last thing I wanted to change about the meetings [12:30] Reisen: is how we keep track of what happened [12:30] Reisen: because at the moment, sure I have my own notes, and mika sometimes shares what happened between us [12:31] Reisen: Hotel manager disturbed me a moment x3; [12:31] Reisen: uh where was I [12:31] Reisen: right, so [12:31] Reisen: what I'm thinking is [12:32] Reisen: on one of these notice boards in the classroom [12:32] Reisen: we're going to designate it to a meeting summary board [12:32] Reisen: the moderator will pick 3 key things we learned from the meeting, kind of like newspaper headlines [12:33] Reisen: and write those down, and we put on a sticky note [12:33] Reisen: and in that sticknote [12:33] Reisen: will be a notecard with a copy/paste transcript of the entire meeting [12:33] Reisen: that way [12:33] Reisen: at a glance, we can see conclusions we drew [12:33] Reisen: and if we need to dig deeper [12:33] Reisen: we can, and it is all in one place [12:34] Reisen: so one of the headlines on my stickynote would be [12:34] Reisen: "new meeting rules" [12:34] Reisen: for example [12:34] Mizu Voledarski is online. [12:34] Reisen: any questions? :o [12:34] Saki raises hand [12:34] Reisen: Saki :3 [12:34] Saki: Who will be playing secretary for that? [12:36] Reisen: the moderator will be in charge of drawing the conclusions as everyone talks to the mod, and also in charge of putting the chat in a notecard [12:36] Reisen: I'll make an easy way for people to put these notes on the board, however, for now, moderators can bring their conclusions and notes to me [12:36] Reisen: and I will do it [12:36] Reisen: maybe if you're extra nice to mika, and mika has time and is willing, she -might- do it too xP [12:38] Reisen: Ok [12:38] Reisen: that is pretty much everything I wanted to say about meetings [12:38] miKaぴょん raises her hand [12:39] Reisen: mika-pyon? :3 [12:39] Reisen points to mika [12:39] miKaぴょん: no word on the "consequences" when ignoring the "rules" ? [12:39] Reisen: Ah, right [12:40] Reisen: In the case that someone is ignoring the rules [12:41] Reisen: first and foremost, the moderator should give them a chance, by explaining they have to raise their hand and wait their turn, and point them to the rules as a reminder [12:41] Reisen: most people will respect that ne [12:42] Reisen: second time around there is no excuse so they will be sent out [12:42] Reisen: and that is for the remainder of the meeting [12:42] Reisen: soo~ [12:42] Reisen: just be respectful, take your turn when it comes, and the meeting goes smoothly ne, [12:42] Reisen: be disrespectful, lose your chance to speak [12:43] Reisen: Ok :3 [12:43] miKaぴょん raises her other hand [12:43] Reisen: mika? [12:43] Reisen: (last question on this topic now because time) [12:43] miKaぴょん: lets not make it sound like Mika only works/assists/helps when I feel like it, especially since it is usually the opposite ❤ [12:44] Reisen: x3 [12:44] RoyallyJinxed: (-^‿‿^-) [12:44] Reisen: n'aw ❤ [12:44] Reisen: mika is a hard worker everybun [12:44] Reisen: I only say the things I do because I want mika to take a break sometimes, and I don't want people to expect things of mika even though she always tries her best [12:45] Reisen: Ok :3 [12:45] Reisen: next topic~ [12:46] Reisen: Mika tells me, there were some concerns over lag-chan's new render-weight algorithm [12:46] Reisen: and that we were to discuss in the meeting ne [12:46] miKaぴょん waves at Vinchan [12:46] Vincent Wolf waves,"Didnt get any group notices about meeting :( [12:46] Reisen: take a seat take a seat~ [12:47] Reisen: So, would mika or anyone else like to tell me what the concerns are? [12:47] miKaぴょん raises hand [12:47] Reisen: go ahead mika-pyon :3 [12:48] miKaぴょん: the render weight detection should be relaxed a bit, since Saki had some perfectly normal outfit the other day but got warned about her weight and did not even know how to check and what to do about it - it also felt like being some criminal apparently [12:48] miKaぴょん raises hand again [12:49] Reisen: Ok so [12:49] Reisen: today me and Saki met up and we did some tests, [12:49] Reisen: the first was [12:50] Reisen: both me and saki did a reset to default female avatar, and see if our render weight was the same [12:50] Reisen: now, [12:50] Reisen: what we found was [12:51] Reisen: our render weight was very close, but not exactly the same, when we both did this [12:51] Reisen: the only thing different about us was our AO [12:51] Reisen: So [12:51] Reisen: after that [12:51] Reisen: Saki put her outfit together, one attachment at a time, and we watched her render-weight [12:51] Reisen: and [12:52] Reisen: what we found was [12:52] Reisen: she has a gadget, a phaser? [12:52] Reisen: that lets her move around [12:53] Reisen: but the phaser [12:53] Reisen: nearly doubled her render weight [12:53] Reisen: Saki rezzed this phaser [12:53] Reisen: and it had a land impact of about 256? [12:53] Reisen: and was made out of lots and lots and lots of prims [12:54] Reisen: we don't know why, it served no purpose as it was 100% invisible [12:54] Reisen: but [12:54] Reisen: point i'm getting across is [12:54] Reisen: she -was- wearing something that had a real reason to push her render weight up [12:54] Saki raises hand [12:54] Reisen: related saki? [12:55] Saki: yes [12:55] Reisen: Ok, Saki first [12:55] Saki: I got hit by lag chan again today, after the fix [12:56] Saki: Though the Phazer is a big cause, this shouldn't be considered [resolved], in my opinion. [12:56] Saki: That's all. [12:56] Reisen: Ok [12:56] Viya raises hand-related [12:56] Reisen: Lets hear what mika wanted to say next [12:56] miKaぴょん: Viya can go first [12:56] Reisen: Viya then [12:57] Viya: How does one check their render weight? [12:57] Fei is offline. [12:59] Reisen: Good question, and I'm not going to answer it now because it is an answer that needs instructions and not much use to the discussion. What I will say is that currently, users who are coming to the sim only have the warning messages, and the thank you message, to show them their render-weight. However, I will be adding a page to our website in the future, under http://kokoro.academy/lag and lag-chan will be linking to that page, where users can learn how to do this, and fix all lag related issues etc in the near future [13:00] Viya nods [13:00] Reisen: Mika-pyon? [13:01] Tessa Monet is offline. [13:01] miKaぴょん: last time Saki got "detected" while Mika was present, I compared our weights and noticed she only had around a bit more than twice as much as Mikas weight [13:01] Astrid Atta-Emyn is offline. [13:01] miKaぴょん: if you consider that sometimes you wear some additional things temporarily, that are potentially old and not made well - we will trigger lagchan all the time [13:02] miKaぴょん still has 1 sentence left [13:02] Reisen: go on [13:02] miKaぴょん: not sure how the limit is set now, but can it not be relaxed a lot more? [13:03] Reisen: Ok so [13:04] Reisen: I beleive the avatar render weight maximum at the moment is limited to 380,000 maximum [13:04] Reisen: to put that in perspective, the highest weight here currently is mika-pyon at 168,000 [13:04] Reisen: with other people here around her weight too [13:05] Reisen: As to changing lag-chan's upper limit [13:06] Reisen: it is very possible the limit will change, up or down, honestly right now I am experimenting with it. I think more research will need to be done into seeing why it seems to go over the limit so easily for some people [13:07] Saki raises hand [13:07] Reisen: what I don't want to do is turn it off completely, as I think it serves as a nice tool to raise some awareness in the sim and help people be more considerate about their impact on the sim [13:07] Reisen: Saki? [13:08] Saki: In case anyone was wondeirng, like Viya, if you use Firestorm, you just go to Avatar (top left) > Avatar health > Show Rendering Weight [13:08] Saki: Thats the number you need to keep a watch on. [13:09] Viya: Thanks. [13:09] Reisen: Ok [13:09] Reisen: I think that about sums up the lag-chan topic.. are there any final things people have to say before the topic changes? [13:10] Reisen: I'll take that for a no x3c [13:10] Reisen: Ok [13:10] Reisen: mika-pyon [13:10] Reisen: would you like to come help me with this next topic then? [13:11] miKaぴょん: was thinking of putting the designs on the table [13:11] miKaぴょん: mainly you pick and comment about what you like and dislike for the uniform [13:11] Reisen: hoki [13:12] miKaぴょん: and we need to figure out how to add the things we like on a new template for the next round [13:12] Reisen: lets do that then :3 [13:12] Reisen ruffles pandahbutt's head -x- [13:13] miKaぴょん: a bit hard to do this in SL hm [13:13] miKaぴょん: would normally cut out parts and put on top of the template [13:14] miKaぴょん: "anyone can move" ring for pointing, maybe [13:14] Reisen: how about we start with one of the sheets [13:14] Vincent Wolf: could make little colored cones to place on stuff :P [13:14] miKaぴょん nods [13:15] Reisen: and people can raise their hand if there is something they like on that uniform maybe [13:15] Saki: you can also put Move: Anyone [13:15] miKaぴょん sets to anyone can move and copy [13:15] Saki: and make it physical over a transparent Prim [13:15] · т α ץ ℓ σ я · is online. [13:15] miKaぴょん: oh, move does not work when not physical? .... [13:16] Saki: it does, nvm [13:16] Vincent Wolf: can still edit-move it :P [13:16] Vincent Wolf: but not grab-move [13:16] Reisen: Which sheet shall we discuss first, mika-pyon? :3 [13:16] miKaぴょん: we start from bottom-right like every normal bunny would [13:16] Reisen: ahh [13:16] miKaぴょん: (^^;; [13:16] miKaぴょん: maybeee [13:17] Reisen: so K's male Gakuran [13:17] miKaぴょん: concentrating on girl first, and starting with the skirt maybe [13:17] miKaぴょん: we are not judging the designs [13:17] miKaぴょん: we pick parts we like for the part on the uniform [13:17] Reisen: hoki [13:18] Reisen: so [13:18] Reisen: anyone here at the table who likes a skirt in any of these pictures should now make a copy of the ring and put it over that skirt :3 [13:18] miKaぴょん: (^^;; [13:18] miKaぴょん: would be easier if we could have a shared whiteboard and draw on, ne [13:19] Cirno Chiru ちるのちる is online. [13:19] miKaぴょん: maybee [13:19] miKaぴょん: we start by color, then pattern, then detail [13:19] Sky is online. [13:19] Reisen: @_@ [13:19] Reisen: hmmm.. [13:19] miKaぴょん: mhm hard to do in SL [13:20] Clover is online. [13:21] Reisen: I really like this color for a skirt personally.. I feel like it has a sophisticated feel about it [13:21] Reisen points to her tiny ring o3o [13:21] Vincent Wolf: dark green is also kind the color of the school, isnt it? [13:21] Demoさん is online. [13:22] Reisen: mm :3 it's pretty complimentary ne~ [13:22] Reisen: actually [13:22] Reisen: one of the pictures on here [13:22] Reisen: is a skirt I photoshopped that mika put [13:22] miKaぴょん: yuh [13:22] Reisen: here I lined the tip with gold [13:22] Reisen: to give it a fancy feeling [13:23] miKaぴょん: probably a different gold tone though [13:23] Reisen: mhm :3 [13:23] Reisen: nobody else wants to point on something? x3 [13:23] Vincent Wolf: I like the additional lining, to break up the green [13:23] miKaぴょん: so if we go with darker greens for skirt (and pants?) we probably have lighter colors for blazer/vests? [13:24] Reisen: hm hm [13:24] Reisen: would all green be too much? [13:25] Reisen: like, a green skirt, and a green blazer.. [13:25] Vincent Wolf: green can be secondary color for top half [13:25] Amako raises ahnd [13:25] miKaぴょん: kind of have single-color examples on the mood board, ne [13:25] Reisen: amako? :o [13:25] Amako: wouldnt all green be a bit odd though? outfits look better with contrast [13:26] miKaぴょん: ↑ [13:26] Viya: I agree [13:26] miKaぴょん: do we need discussion rules in this talk too btw? [13:26] Reisen: I think this can be freeform, just keep the points short ne :3 [13:26] miKaぴょん: so you like darker more natural colors [13:27] miKaぴょん: the skirt Jinx made is more colorful and Mika likes more >.< [13:27] Reisen: Jinx's one is the one with the poofy shorts drawing? [13:27] miKaぴょん nods [13:27] Minty Elsa: It's teal [13:27] miKaぴょん: arrow [13:28] Minty Elsa: it can be a plaid design with dark green you know [13:28] RoyallyJinxed used the colours off the sheet [13:28] Minty Elsa: Not saying you did wrong [13:28] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: I forgot about tea & cake [13:28] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: z [13:28] miKaぴょん waves [13:28] Viya: I prefer the solid color with a stripe to plaid, personally [13:28] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: *・∀・)ﾉ　こんにちゎ♪ [13:28] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: what i miss? [13:28] Reisen: hmm.. [13:28] Reisen: what if [13:29] Reisen: see how Jinx's skirt has two colors? [13:29] Reisen: personally, I like both the greens, but I'm not keen on the brown [13:29] Reisen: if I had photoshop now, I would try using the darker green in place of the brown [13:29] Vincent Wolf: the tartar pattern? [13:30] Reisen: and the lighter green on the skirt solid [13:30] miKaぴょん: darker green hum [13:30] miKaぴょん: oh [13:30] miKaぴょん: you mean splitting the skirt colors [13:30] Reisen: yes [13:30] Viya: I think the brown adds better contrast, but I agree with the solid skirt color [13:30] Amako: i think plaid skirt looks more uniformy [13:30] miKaぴょん: Mika too thinking it should not be a single color only [13:30] miKaぴょん: it is always hard to pull off [13:31] Reisen: hmm.. [13:31] Minty Elsa: The design Reisen wants to push through reminds me of something very horrible [13:31] Sky is offline. [13:31] miKaぴょん: xD [13:31] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ. lost already [13:31] Minty Elsa: http://www.schuetzenfest-neuss.com/typo3temp/pics/97e008b83e.jpg [13:31] Reisen: reisen isn't trying to push any design through [13:32] Sky is online. [13:32] miKaぴょん: lol [13:32] Reisen: just my thoughts [13:32] Viya: is the gold trim still a thing with both the proposed designs so far? because i think either way the gold trim is a good detail [13:32] Reisen: hmm.. [13:32] Minty Elsa: A green top is really offensive looking in my eyes [13:33] miKaぴょん: http://www.thefashionmuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/monochromatic-colors-2013-fashion-trend.jpg [13:33] Viya: Yeah I think a light top with dark skirt looks best [13:33] Reisen: I think.. [13:33] miKaぴょん: light top again makes it necessary to have darker shirt then? [13:33] Reisen: I feel like. having the gold trim and the plaid at the same time would make too much noise in practice [13:34] Reisen: so it should be one or the other [13:34] Vincent Wolf: what do you mean with "plaid" ? (just to be sure) [13:34] Reisen: >.< [13:34] Reisen: getting my terms mixed up [13:35] Reisen: the pattern with the lines going across [13:35] Vincent Wolf: tartar pattern [13:35] Reisen: thats the one [13:35] miKaぴょん: checker...? [13:35] Vincent Wolf: plaid = sharp folds [13:35] Reisen: I think [13:35] Reisen: it should either be gold lined, or have tartar pattern [13:35] Reisen: but not both [13:35] Viya: yeah i always thought plaid was criss crossing lines in a color pattern.. [13:36] Vincent Wolf: Solid color with plaid folds, and golden lining would be nice..perhaps lace trim for the cuter bunnies:P [13:36] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: pleats are sharp folds, plaid is a pattern [13:36] ღ ۣۜRιαηα ۣۜSтαяѕραω ღ is offline. [13:36] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: a pleated skirt, with a plaid pattern [13:36] Reisen: Idk though [13:36] Reisen: I mean [13:36] Viya: yeah what mio said sounds right [13:36] Vincent Wolf: it all sounds alike, damn confusing, hehe [13:37] Reisen: it kind of works on Jynx's drawing [13:37] Reisen: but I feel like in practice it might not [13:37] Reisen: somehow [13:37] Jaric00n is online. [13:37] Minty Elsa: everybody knows plaid is a pattern [13:37] RoyallyJinxed loves to go overboard with patterns so is biased :x [13:37] Reisen: x3c [13:38] Reisen: hm [13:38] ღ ۣۜRιαηα ۣۜSтαяѕραω ღ is online. [13:38] Vincent Wolf: so, kinda like the green ring shows is best? [13:38] Viya: in my opinion [13:38] Viya: yes [13:38] Vincent Wolf: I feel the same [13:39] Reisen: I feel like the green ring one would be best complimenting the school personally [13:39] Reisen: but maybe someone else has a different opinion? [13:39] Biscuitpunk is online. [13:40] Reisen: no @_@ [13:40] Reisen: ah mika is pointing [13:40] miKaぴょん: about the harmony with the blazer [13:40] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ. is barely here, because lost [13:40] miKaぴょん: this is more or less the same hue, ne [13:41] Zoey Hadazuma is offline. [13:41] miKaぴょん: as well as the boy uniform below [13:41] Reisen: mm :3 [13:41] Minty Elsa: Its the same hue because it uses browns and dark blues. Its far less saturated [13:41] miKaぴょん: that means, either having a drastic change in lightness / saturation and keeping the hue [13:41] miKaぴょん: or use it as almost black like in the green ring [13:42] miKaぴょん: I feel the top should be darker too, since I would like white shirts etc [13:42] Viya: The top neednt be super light, but I do think it should be noticeably lighter than the skirt [13:43] Reisen: hm [13:43] miKaぴょん: that would be like [13:43] miKaぴょん: the picture blow the green ring then [13:43] miKaぴょん: what Viya said [13:43] Vincent Wolf: or atleast contrast with the skirt [13:43] miKaぴょん: or uh [13:43] miKaぴょん: Minchans or Yuutans veryions [13:43] miKaぴょん: at the big ring [13:43] miKaぴょん: versions* [13:43] Clover is offline. [13:43] Minty Elsa: You either go light on the top or the bottom [13:43] Minty Elsa: or else it looks too heavy [13:44] Viya: indeed [13:44] Reisen: my feeling is: [13:44] miKaぴょん: too much contrast can create a idol-group uniform feeling though [13:44] Reisen: Blazers should be darker than the skirt [13:44] Reisen: Sweater and shirts [13:44] Reisen: should be lighter than the skirt [13:44] Minty Elsa: It would only look that way if you use pastel colors and about 256 different colors to boot [13:44] Viya: the blazer can be darker as long as its not green [13:45] Minty Elsa: using a saturated green like that would never create an idol effect [13:45] Viya: if the skirt is going to be green [13:45] Vincent Wolf: What we need is a mesh-object (flat) with different faces for different clothing so we can color the faces and see how it looks together :P [13:45] Second Life: Ina Murasaki CatLynx 化け猫 (InaLaZorra1) is now known as InaLaZorra1. [13:45] Reisen: I mean, we're not even sure we'll use a blazer yet though [13:45] miKaぴょん: mhm [13:45] miKaぴょん: was thinking earlier [13:45] miKaぴょん: instead of thinking about specific patterns [13:45] Second Life: InaLaZorra1 (InaLaZorra1) is now known as InaLaZorra1. [13:45] miKaぴょん: we should first work out basic shapes and colors [13:46] miKaぴょん: and do the more detailed things in future iterations [13:46] Omocha la roo is offline. [13:46] miKaぴょん: maybe we can even have a few versions now [13:46] Minty Elsa: That is literally what we are doing right now... [13:46] miKaぴょん: only that everyone thinks about patterns and detail atm [13:46] Reisen: this is completely dumb [13:46] Minty Elsa: Well I don't [13:46] Reisen: but a random observation [13:47] Reisen: if you look at the color scheme of this room [13:47] Reisen: we have cream walls [13:47] Reisen: green doors, lined with gold [13:47] Reisen: and a wood finish o3o [13:47] miKaぴょん: now guess where I took the color palette from [13:47] Vincent Wolf: so kinda like Mio-chan outfit, but with a green skirt? :) [13:47] Reisen: what about a cream sweater, green skirt lined with gold, and brown loafers lol [13:47] Minty Elsa: if only there was a design that used cream colors but you already dismissed that, ne [13:48] RoyallyJinxed: thinks the blazer/ waistcoat combo would look cute with that skirt idea [13:48] RoyallyJinxed: but the waistcoat brown [13:48] RoyallyJinxed: :x [13:48] RoyallyJinxed: (Blue pointer) [13:48] miKaぴょん: oh there [13:49] miKaぴょん: Minchans version is basically what Reichan just said, ne [13:49] miKaぴょん: but was also thinking before - using the school colors can backfire too if it blends too much [13:49] Minty Elsa: No she hates it, its ok [13:50] miKaぴょん: and Jinx's arrow is the same thing upside down, ne [13:50] Minty Elsa: As I said. You need to contrast your darks with lights [13:50] Minty Elsa: so if you want a dark top the bottom needs to look lighter [13:50] Reisen pats on minty's head -x- [13:50] Minty Elsa: or vice versa [13:50] Reisen: you can be all kinds of salty to me afterwards ne~ [13:51] Snow Nova is online. [13:51] Reisen: I do think minty's colorscheme is nice but thinking about it agreeing on mika [13:51] Reisen: it would be bad if everyone blends into the walls lol [13:51] Morrigan Farrell is offline. [13:51] Reisen: but what color would we introduce [13:51] Reisen: to contrast the school interior? [13:52] Reisen: and exterior, even x3 [13:52] miKaぴょん: that is not necessary (but not against either) [13:52] miKaぴょん: if the colors are weighted differently [13:52] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ. dies of toot hpain [13:52] miKaぴょん: /(v x v)\ [13:52] Minty Elsa: If you use too many colors you will go overboard too [13:53] miKaぴょん: if we take Minchans or Yuutans versions, you stand in front of a light wall wearing a light top and the bottoms are similar colors as the floor [13:53] miKaぴょん: while Jinx's version is pretty much contrasting that [13:53] Minty Elsa: the bottoms would be green [13:53] Minty Elsa: and do you just avoid white rooms whenever you wear a white top? [13:54] miKaぴょん: hmhm, meant more from a more top-level view [13:54] Minty Elsa: do brides only marry in black churches? [13:54] Reisen: =w= [13:54] Minty Elsa: its a silly way to think [13:54] Reisen: what we could do [13:54] Reisen: perhaps [13:54] Reisen: as an exercise [13:55] Reisen: if me or mika make some cut-out generic uniform components [13:55] Reisen: we can make a life-size recolorable 2d dummy [13:55] miKaぴょん: and best put it inside the classroom and one outside [13:55] Reisen: yes :3 [13:55] Reisen: that could be quite fun too ne? [13:55] Vincent Wolf: Did suggest that :P [13:56] Reisen: ow [13:56] Reisen: did not see sorry x3 [13:56] Saki: back, are we voting yet? [13:56] Reisen: would everyone be up for that if we make those parts? [13:56] miKaぴょん: that is nice for testing colors [13:56] miKaぴょん: but still need shapes too [13:57] Vincent Wolf: yes [13:57] Reisen: mm.. [13:57] Viya: sorry ive been afk, but i think a gold trim would help prevent you from "blending in" but not using the exact same shade of green for the uniform and walls should also do the job well enough [13:57] Reisen: Well [13:57] Saki: the walls are beige [13:57] Saki: and the top is white [13:57] Reisen: it's been 2 hours into the meeting now ne [13:57] Saki: you arent gonna blend in. [13:57] Morrigan Farrell is online. [13:58] Reisen: how about, next uniform meeting, we have those parts, and we can use them for experimenting with colors [13:58] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: what parts are even gonna be made [13:58] Vincent Wolf: a cutout to color [13:58] Minty Elsa: so the conclusion is that this went nowhere then. [13:58] Saki: look at my mask and skin color, my skin is beige and my mask is white [13:58] Saki: does it blend? [13:58] .ღ. ᴍɪᴏ .ღ.: it seems every tea and cake ends up nowhere =_= [13:58] Reisen knocks panda on the side of the head -x- [13:59] Reisen: no, it's going somewhere [13:59] Reisen: we have some good initial color idea's [13:59] Reisen: and next we're going to see how they look in practise [13:59] miKaぴょん: > being silent the whole time and only doing off-topic comments that are not even real argujments [13:59] miKaぴょん: > then complain about the meeting [14:00] Katterayu is online. [14:00] miKaぴょん: also we know what to do now for the next time, like we did after every meeting [14:00] miKaぴょん: would have liked if we had basic shapes today already [14:00] Katterayu is offline. [14:00] miKaぴょん: but guess next time is more time and we did the rules thing first today [14:00] miKaぴょん: leaving this here? [14:00] Reisen: Just a quick note before this meeting ends [14:01] Reisen: we pretty much put to practice those new meeting rules as I was showing them [14:01] Reisen: how did everyone feel about practicing it? was it better? [14:01] Reisen: worse? :o [14:01] Saki: restrictive. [14:01] Viya: Well this was my first meeting but it seemed to prove efficient I think [14:02] Saki: I ended up just [14:02] Viya: ive certainly seen many discussions go way out of hand before [14:02] Saki: making chatting with amako in private [14:02] Jaric00n is offline. [14:02] Reisen: I mean [14:02] Reisen: from my perspective [14:03] Reisen: it was better because I got to cover lots of questions without it derailing [14:03] Reisen: we managed to get through 2 topics today and start a third one [14:03] Vincent Wolf: You should add a "raise hand" animation to your school chair-hud :) [14:03] Viya: efficiency is key in a meeting I think. After all, its a meeting, not a social hangout [14:04] Reisen: mm :3 [14:04] Saki: Questions were unrailed, yes, people's opinions remained unheard even more so, however, in my opinion. [14:04] Viya: that isnt to say they cant be entertaining or fun, but it still must fulfill its purpose first [14:04] Reisen: hmm.. [14:04] Reisen: I think [14:05] Zan FuzzyButt is online. [14:05] Reisen: drawing on feedback [14:05] Saki: It depends what the goal of these rules were [14:05] Saki: To keep topics going, or to have everyone heard. [14:05] Hetza is online. [14:06] Reisen: We will keep these in place for now as I personally think it made the meeting more efficient and I got a broader distribution of opinions.. But perhaps we can look into some ways that unheard opinions can be heard better in the future somehow [14:06] Reisen: and with that [14:06] Reisen puts hand on the desk [14:07] Reisen raises in the air~ [14:07] Reisen: this meeting has finished~ :3

19/03/2016

I really need to update this more often!

Lots of things have changed since the last update, so here goes in no particular order:

The school pools have gained changing rooms, filled with lots of cool new props, including some shower heads that have been modelled by Minty, and textured by Mika, and had particle effects made by K’! (thanks everyone!)

We had some management changes, Mika is now a secretary with explicit permission to make decisions on my behalf, Keiko is now managing events

The changing room, and the classroom has been put on the instance system, saving a whole tonne of prims

Lag-Chan has been upgraded to handle a new type of lag (more on this later)

RLV Has been utilized to control your windlight when in the underground floors

We added a swimming override to the school pool, so you can just jump right in! (Thanks mika for the animations!)

Lots of new sound effects for the pool

Work has begun on the roof floor

Added a tool for teachers to rearrange the classroom between meeting and lesson mode (the table and chair arrangement changes)

We’re now having tea and cake meetings on Fridays at 12 noon where you can come join the discussion about the school. Each meeting has different topics to talk about

We’re having a vote on whether or not to have supernatural powers in the school

We have a new roadmap on display outside the front of the school, it includes my plans for the school and mika’s plans for the shrine island

Mika has created the first building of the shrine island!

Minty created a new Projector prop for the classroom

#Kokoro-Academy

20/12/2015

Work has started on the school pool:

Meshing up the walls, tiles, drains

Added lanes

Minty has made some nice steps for getting in and out of the pool (Thanks Minty!)

#kokoro-academy #school #pool #mesh #3d #blender #game-design

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