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The gang at the salon!

I've been hyperfocusing all my study time and attention on Philippe's first marriage and all of its intrigues, and it so happens that the whole gang spent quite a bit of time in literary salons, as both Philippe and Henriette were quite close to salon hostesses. I may soon make a post, or repost this with extra details about salons in general as it is a fascinating subculture of the time that was not only very intellectual and championing freedom of thought and expression, but also led by women!

I have recorded a timelapse of this one so I'll try to upload it asap.

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#philippe d'orleans #henriette d'angleterre #armand de gramont #comte de guiche #madame de montespan #madame de sablé #madame de sévigné #madame de la fayette #french history #literary salons #xvii century france

a big fan of such niche phenomenon as armand developing conscience after excile and having a redemption arc (nobody believes him at this point oooopsie)

#17th century #1660s #comte de guiche #french history #history rpf #philippe d'orleans #have you already figured out who's my precious pookie baby boy #just joking I love all my historical figures equally #but he's so interesting one can do so much with his character #is it the hero or the bastard #big fan of authoritative monsieur too

reading "The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later" right now and there's this scene where Philippe is mad at Chevalier because, and I quote:

"Why, he pretends," continued the prince, "that Mademoiselle Henrietta is better looking as a woman than I am as a man."

and I can't stop thinking about them 😂

poor, poor Comte de Guiche, he's there to ask a favor and he's already in the middle ('cause Philippe likes him eheh)

#philippe d'orleans #chevalier de lorraine #monchevy #versailles #comte de guiche #armard de gramont #the three musketeers #the vicomte of bragelonne: ten Years later #alexandre dumas

Jacques Weber my beautiful eternal flame.

#eternal flame #cyrano de bergerac #jacques weber #french actor #french #new wave #Comte de monte Cristo #the count of monte Cristo #Comte De guiche #george sand #mauprat #Bernard Mauprat

Almost every adaptation of Cyrano has an actor for Cyrano who’s 20+ years older than the actress for Roxane, even though it’s explicit in the text that they were childhood friends and grew up together.

I’m tired of it, especially because having them be the same age emphasises that they’re intellectual equals, and could add to the tragedy of the play in other ways:

If Roxane and Cyrano are both in their twenties then it adds to the tragedy of Roxane being widowed so young, as well as Cyrano giving up on the possibility of being loved when he’s barely into adulthood. Casting an older actor to play de Guiche could then emphasise the conflict between a traditionalist de Guiche and the younger, more radical Cyrano and Roxane. It also adds tragedy with Cyrano dying in his late thirties, when he could have had a happy, long life with Roxane, if only he’d been able to tell her how he felt about her.

If Roxane and Cyrano were both in their forties, we get a different kind of story. It would mean that Cyrano has lived decades believing himself unlovable. It would also explcitly state that the most beautiful, desirable woman in Paris is middle-aged, which is not a message you often see in a narrative.

#this is not a cyrano quote #thoughts #cyrano de bergerac #cyrano #roxane #madeline robin #de guiche #comte de guiche