#constance stuff

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Looking at Constance's supports, I can see some lolcalisations being just pointless fluff, while some are just, uh...

"Karen, let's erase the most likely reason why she's short on arcane crystal, I mean, who cares about it, right?"

JP!Constance is a bit more coy about the something "passed down from her great progenitor", when Pat's Constance just mentions her line, but not her special "bloodline".

Aka, it's harmless fluff that was lolcalised away in her Billy support, but compare it with her Ferdie one?

No "leading the Empire" bcs what is even the fuck?? Young!Ferdie always wanted to become PM and challenge the Emperor, he never wanted to lead Adrestia at all??

Pat's Constance asks him to "tread carefully", aka, she's pissed and agressive, something JP!Constance, at least from the lines, isn't (I'll check the line delivery later on).

And that last line from Ferdie???

"I'm a glad you emerged from the wreckage of your house"??? When the JP!Version just has him say "tragedy" befell House Nuvelle and "a future I can hardly bear to mention".

It changes the flow of the convo, Constance isn't pissed because Ferdie is sugarcoating/disminishing what she endured, she's pissed because he pretends he can relate to what she felt during that time!

Ferdie isn't surprised at Constance being "brusque", but wonders why she's angry! And yes, what she is pissed about is how he pretends to understand her feelings, as she is someone who lost "everything".

Given how the previous line was lolcalised away, we continue on the "lolcalised!Ferdie apologises for, uh, remembering her about what she lost" instead of "Ferdie apologises for trying to put himself in her shoes".

Sunk cost fallacy or, as we say in french "quand le vin est tiré, il faut le boire", the lolcalisation continues on the "she's pissed bcs he's reminding her of what happened" instead of Ferdie's "fake" empathy.

But, and more interesting, Nobles BaD means the mention about Constance wanting to regain "nobility" was swapped by "restoring my house and reclaiming my title". Given how Hanneman and Ferdie talk about nobility being something else than "wow fraud, you're not like other nobles you know how to climb o trees !!!" I'd say it's an improvment.

Indeed, Constance used to "discuss" the pride or the values of "nobility" with a young Ferdie back then, making "sparks fly in high society"!

It's not just "Ferdie was a boy who embodied the finest nobility at balls, while I was just watching I guess".

"Susan, he can't have such a low esteem after all he was raised as noble and thus cannot self-reflect! Let's have him nearly do it, but add "perhaps" just in case!"

JP!Ferdie accepts and acknowledges he had been a fool.

"His house is in shambles so he has nothing, his followers are chopped liver because he is a noble and doesn't care about non noble people!"

Next to nothing isn't nothing, and he mentions his followers in the orignal version!

"Susan, we must erase the mention of him having been beaten down! Otherwise the players might believe the sudden even that happened 5 years ago had negative effects on playable characters!"

"Reach the heights of our forebears, or dare I say, even higher" is something cooked here by the lolcalisation, JP!Ferdie only mentions they can work together and help/support/motivate each other, which is what Constance focuses on, instead of the "higher than my predecessors" part.

So, all in all, why was that support chain so lolcalised?

From the reason of Constance's ire to Ferdie's fate during the TS, to ultimately, their shared goals?

I can hazard a guess, it was to write Constance as an arrogant and prideful brat and Ferdie shares some of her traits, as they strive to "prove themselves" to be "better", aka, have more "muhrit" than their forefathers, instead of focusing on working together and supporting each other through their, during the war, common hardships... because Nobility BaD and that had to be hammered in a game that is set in a traditional fantasy setting with a heavy emphasis on the "noblesse oblige" concept ??

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Constance and House Nuvelle ramblings -

We know House Nuvelle started when Noa, after promising Seiros she won't pass her crest, went to a place near the Fangs of Fodlan, and apparently fucked sufficiently enough to create her own house.

(GG on that "do not pass on your crest" promise!)

Nuvelle people, according to Constance's Supreme support, don't marry in other houses to not bring their Noa crested blood to other families :

Saint Noa was apparently super duper good at "magic" and her descendants are also super duper good - let it be because of their crests or because they focus and research "magic" - happens what happens :

The Emperor appointed the leaders of House Nuvelle were "well versed" in magic, and muhritocracy happening, means they were appointed to important posts...

However, House Nuvelle cheered on Ionius after he terminated Hrym, and threw its lot with the Imperial household, effectively losing influence when Ionius was defanged :

JP version makes it more explicit that they were casted away from the "inner circle" of Imperial authority... but what is this inner circle? They weren't part of the great noble families, and given how Constance was set up to marry the crested heir of House Bartels (even if it would have implied Emile would leave House Bartels and his mama/sis to live with the Nuvelles, so what kind of benefit Baron Bartels would gain from this union?) but not, say, Ferdie or Linhardt, I wonder how close to the great noble families they were.

Or maybe we had some faction war going on, with House Vestra in the middle, like Ionius and his pals (the Nuvelles amongst others) vs the other noble families, and they were supposed to act as some sort of check and balances system to make sure the Emperor wouldn't be all powerful and ignore his nobles, but at the same time, the nobles wouldn't be able to run the country?

(But then Ionius did his thing, and everything fell apart)

Anyways, Nuvelle sided with Ionius, and lost the power struggle.

House Nuvelle was used as sacrificial pawn to stop Dagda'n'Brigid when they invaded the Empire - and in Nopes, we see the former Nuvelle territory was absorbed by Gerth.

However, what kind of bollocks decision was it to send scholars/mages to fend off against a joint army, when Leopold "my loincloth is a holy relic from Cichol himself" von Bergliez, famed and reknown general out there, leading the Imperial Army and Minister of War himself, was around?

Was it, like Constance suggests to Billy, a dick move made up to punish the Nuvelles from having joined Ionius, fueled by some resentment some Houses might have had - interestingly enough, in her Supreme support, Constance says it was something House Nuvelle brought upon itself by wanting to keep on preserving Noa's secret and ultimately not making any bonds or alliances with the other houses (which is, hilarious in hindsight, given how this support is supposed to be obtained in CF, aka, the route where you set to get rid of pointy ears for presumably lying about history - much like the Nuvelles did - and we're left to wonder that if Rhea opened up to more people, maybe, just like House Nuvelle, she would have had more allies to rely on in her direst time of need?).

Supreme Leader wonders if the Six great Houses, aka the ones who deposed Best Dad (tm) weren't the one to blame for House Nuvelle's destruction, given how she believes they were eager to see it fall !

But...

Gerth, a member of the Six Great Houses, feels like trash for what happened to Constance in their paralogue, and confesses he owes much to Constance and to her parents so much that he is willing to shit on his role as "Minister of Foreign Affair" and abandon a card he could use against the Church - aka hoarding Rhea's sibling's remains - to repay his debt to the Nuvelles.

Does he sound like someone who was eager to see House Nuvelle fall?

Still, the thing is House Nuvelle was supposed to defend Adrestia against the Dagda'n'Brigid invasion, they failed and their heads were killed, the House was disbanded and Constance ended up in Faerghus. So while we can wonder what the fuck Leopold "my major crest is a retcon" von Bergliez was doing with the Imperial Army while the Nuvelles died, well, they still died without any backup from the Imperial Army, aka, the largest army on the continent.

Should Constance have had some support or at least lines with Leopold in Nopes, or Caspar in both games? For sure, but hey, we can't have interesting things in those games, so enjoy your teatime I guess.

Of course, and this is a given whenever I write anything about Constance :

HC obsessed me read the "passed down something of great importance from our progenitor" as a ref to Sothis, the progenitor god - but thinking more rationally, the progenitor Constance is refering to isn't Sothis, but Noa, and the "something of great importance" is... her crest? No, that wouldn't end with her generation, dragon blood would pass on Constance's children and so on, so as long as her bloodline exists, the crest of Noa will.

But what if that "something of great importance" isn't just the crest, but Noa's talent, affinity and study of magic?

Lizard or not, Noa's magical prowesses were apparently sufficient enough to fool the Empire for generations - starting with the first (I'd say post Willy departure) but, like, those first guys most likely were taught magic by Macuil himself, so was Noa's magic as potent as his or something? Their crests - even if the devs would rather sell spoons and umbrellas than reveal what are the effects of crests in this verse in a watsonian sense - were confused!

So, Noa was a very powerful magician, and her descendants pursued the tradition of being scholars, Constance herself designs new spells!

However, too much honey for today means I'm pretty sure the devs meant "crest of Noa" as the "something of great importance" and not the love and tradition to research and develop magic, which would have been more interesting but w/c.

House Nuvelle is interestingly - for something hidden behind a paywall - the most developped House from Adrestia, and paints a pretty messy picture of what happens in the Empire, from its dawn (again, post Willy departure) to the events happening during the game.

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Connecting dots on different planes of existence :

(constance stuff)

Non CF ending : Ferdie and Constance fucked a lot and had so many kids that they established a branch House of House Nuvelle, when that House traditionally was very secretive, had few kids and refuse to mingle a lot with other houses all to preserve Noa's bloodline.

They revitalised the land!

CF wise :

They revitalise their territory as "one-generation nobles", are we supposed to understand they don't fuck in CF?

No new Nuvelles or branch houses that will carry on Constance's researches and love for magic, nope, the two are pioneers and overcome obstacles together or with "bizarre magic".

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HC wise, assuming Constance somehow learns what Noa was but also realises she embarked on a quest to make the world for "Humanity", she will not have children nor pass on Noa's bloodline because she was there and saw what happened to the non-human Archbishop or how the Imperial Army highlighted Flayn'n'Seteth's participation in the war...

Add to that Ferdie who might or not have realised he is in the same position as his Supreme Bullshit self, aka, he needs to prove his allegeance else he dies by virtue of being named Von Aegir - sure the two can count on each other to restore their territory - but not the land as opposed to the other endings.

Tldr: They will work together for the new social class order or whatnot, but Constance will never restore her House's good name - nor its existence since no kids - but at least she and Ferdie support each other?

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Not HC related, but at least in AM, it's nice for Constance to tease us about the "why" Rhea was captured, even if this will never be answered, especially not in the "parley" that is going to follow at the end of the month.

Note how Pat's team erased the "wtf are they planning to do by capturing Rhea" because, uh, we don't want people to wonder about that, and the game will play coy about Rhea's zumba lessons anyways.

Considering Constance is the supposed (given her support list) wolf who goes by default to CF, it's strange that she is the one, on the non CF route, to wonder about wtf the Empire is cooking by capturing Rhea when she doesn't mention a thing about her in CF, but that's just Tru Piss things!