At least in IT, the cyrano trope did what it is supposed to do.
But then, for heterosexual pairings, it’s probably „more realistic“ to work out so you can easily throw it into the trash for queer pairings 🥀
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At least in IT, the cyrano trope did what it is supposed to do.
But then, for heterosexual pairings, it’s probably „more realistic“ to work out so you can easily throw it into the trash for queer pairings 🥀
How Cyrano de Bergerac Haunts Everything About Byler and the Conclusion of Stranger Things
The Byler fandom rightfully discusses how the painting is the Cyrano trope - but there are two specific details within the plot of the actual Cyrano de Bergerac play, and its many film adaptations, that relate so completely to the WillElMike triangle that they must specifically be pointed out, because it is utterly impossible for this level of similarity to be a coincidence.
Also spoilers for a 100+ year old play, I guess.
Firstly, in the play, Roxane thinks the heartfelt letters she receives are from her lover Christian. She has no idea they’re actually from Cyrano, confessing his own deep love for her through the guise of Christian since he has no hope that Roxane will ever reciprocate if he tells her directly. Roxane spends the entire play under the wrong assumption, obsessed with Christian and swearing her undying love for him because she’s in love with the way those letters make her feel. They speak her language, they move her to her very soul, and she loves the beautiful mind that created these works of art for her, yet she has been misled as to whose mind it truly is. (Sound familiar???) It’s only in the last ten minutes of the play that she finally learns the truth - and she does a complete 180. The discovery that it was Cyrano’s feelings the whole time immediately makes her realize that it’s Cyrano whom she’s really loved this whole time, and her last lines are telling Cyrano she loves him. Never will you find a review of this play complaining that it is “unrealistic” for Roxane to have a 180 like that, or that it’s “rushed” or “has no buildup” or “makes no sense.” The narrative is structured so that the entire audience is on the edge of their seats, waiting and rooting for Roxane to find out the truth, and when she does, it’s absolute catharsis. The play cannot possibly end until she realizes. If it ended without her ever finding out, the entire narrative would collapse.
Secondly, Christian dies toward the end of the play, and Roxane spends several heartbroken years mourning him, thinking he’s her lost soulmate and she’ll never love again. (Again, sound familiar???) It’s only after his death, when she thinks Cyrano is reading “Christian’s last unsent letter” aloud to her until she notices the depth of passion and truth in his voice as he reads, that it finally clicks for her.
Need I say who and what each of the Stranger Things counterparts to this story are? That’s right. Mike is Roxane, El is Christian, Will is Cyrano, and the painting is the letters. This is why a reveal of the painting’s true origin at some point in Season 5 was all it would take for Mike to finally understand his own heart, just like Roxane, and thus all it would take for a general audience to be on board with Mike ending up with Will.
This also means that post-canon Byler truthers still really have something to go off since El is “dead.” It’s the same situation as the final act of Cyrano de Bergerac! Mike is struggling to grieve and move on from El because he’s madly in love with how the painting makes him feel - he has it on his wall, just as Roxane kept all of “Christian’s” letters - and he still thinks it’s from her, just as Roxane still thought hers were from Christian. As soon as the last domino collapses from whatever catalyst to unveil that painting’s true origin someday, the stars will align and Byler will get together.
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I think I’ve reached the acceptance stage because no matter how it ended (or whether it was confirmed or not), I realized they gave us a good love story. No, a great one. Was it intentional? We may never know, but they used so many narrative relationship tropes, it’s dizzying. And their unintentional love story is so much more satisfying than most of their intended ones, so maybe it’s a blessing they allowed it to live and breathe without their direct hand in it.
There were more relationship tropes used for a non-canon/ambiguous canon relationship than I’ve seen in most canon storylines. The relationship had all the angst, the shared looks, the soft eyes, soft touches and soft words. It had shared history and depth, sacrifice, longing, and yes, even “buzz” (season 4 bedroom scene and season 5,pt1 end scene, I’m looking at you). It had pining and lip staring, jealousy and shame. And as a BL fan, I even appreciated the Kansetsu Kisu after an indirect confession. It had the familiar queer cinematic language of water; the recurring motif where the couple is “baptized” through water, in oceans, pools, rainstorms (and yes, even busted pipes, signaling overflowing emotions and repressed feelings that no longer want to be contained). It had the Cyrano trope and the childhood friends to possible? lovers trope.
Byler editors have a cornucopia of delectables to choose from without needing to use other films or AI to make it work.
So I’m grateful for one of the sweetest romantic storylines that “never was,” and all the joy, grief, healing, art, stories, edits, cosplay, and film discourse that followed.💛💙🔆 🌀
The more I think about this show and all the moments in it and the more I see online pointing out new moments in it, the less queerbaited I feel, its instead just skyrocketing straight to rage bait. And I’m falling for it hard.
just saw someone compare byler to bev and ben from IT with the cyrano trope of the painting and postcard and now i wanna find the nearest bridge
Will's Painting and Mike's Epilogue Campaign Parallels: He Knows 🎨📘💔
(screenshot and inspo from this post x)
Seeing this side-by-side visual between the van scene and the epilogue campaign draws interesting comparisons suggesting Mike knows it was Will's feelings he returns in the end.
The first parallel to the epilogue campaign in the van scene is of Will hiding behind El as a lie to confess his feelings, aka the Cyrano trope. Not so coincidentally, sigh, we also have Mike introducing the mage, who the party sees as El, explaining that it’s “a story he can never tell,” while staring at Will, “or at least not the real story.” Literally meaning “not real,” as the Duffers have stated. El’s character represents the “magic of childhood,” only a concept or lie.
For a queer audience, tying El and Will together with magic, the color purple, both finding “happiness,” and through shot progression as this cryptic dialogue about El occurs when Will is onscreen stand out. These direct comparisons illustrate El is an allegorical figure representing Mike’s closeted romantic feelings the dramaturgy points in the direction of Will. Just like Will’s painting, Mike hides behind El to confess his feelings for him.
The most notable comparison in both confessions is how the scenes end leaning toward melancholy. Will quietly sobs, resolving to give up his feelings (“ripping off the bandaid”), believing he’ll have to hide his feelings forever (“endless highway”). Similarly, Mike quietly sobs after Will is the last to leave, eye line pointing toward Will’s D&D binder and caressing it, before the basement door locks Will’s memory away with finality. Paralleling Mike’s ending to a canonically gay character's hidden confession scene suggests 1) he is also gay or queer, and 2) he is closeted due to fear as well as guilt (over El).
Other corresponding elements drive home the point, too. Will gives Mike a pet name, “the heart,” just as Mike calls Will “sorcerer” (while they both have D&D character names they could’ve used). Mike’s campaign awards the party for “courage” and “bravery,” the exact words Will uses to describe Mike as a leader in his painting, tying together both scenes with mirroring dialogue. Using the three-headed dragon imagery, the dragon figurine being in the background when Mike thumbs Will’s binder reminds us, and Mike, of Will’s painting. Will paints Mike as a heroic leader who saves the party holding a heart shield, where, in the reverse perspective, Will saves the party in Mike’s campaign as non-diegetic light glows on him (the heart and light both romantic signatures).
Not directly related to the van scene but to the painting itself in S4, Will grabs his painting, deciding to confess to Mike after he says, “Max, Lucas, and Dustin,” and we see their binders on the shelf, “they’re great, they’re great. But it’s Hawkins, it’s not the same without you,” as we see Mike only caress Will’s binder.
Lastly, throughout Season 5, Mike envisions traveling to a far-away village to live a happy ending with the party, then dreams up a final scenario where Will ends his story in a “distant village” with a man who wears a similar jacket and hairstyle to Mike’s, basically inventing a Cyrano trope of his own. This village happy ending has been painted in a romantic light (“lovebirds” line following its first mention). Yet, Mike envisions his supposed love interest, El, alone while he creates a self-insert for himself in Will’s "village" scenario. In Mike’s future vision of himself, he sits by Will’s painting in his dorm room, the most prominent feature in the shot’s composition. The implication is that Mike returns Will’s romantic feelings in this callback, and these meta-textual hints in his storytelling imply self-awareness.
TL;DR: Mike's epilogue campaign includes hints and callbacks to Will's painting through mise-en-scène, and he uses multiple Cyrano tropes as another parallel, suggesting Mike quietly reciprocates Will's romantic feelings by subtly echoing the van scene confession.
and remember kids, it’s only the cyrano trope if its heterosexual!! it’s fine to believe the crush is reciprocated—unless it’s gay, in which case you are a delusional pervert for hoping to see your ship become canon xox
—the duffer brothers (probably)