#dean fans

[mrswinchester96]

Imagine dean watching over you all night after you get hurt on a hunt

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

Brother double standards?

So this post got ridic long & I didn’t wanna go off on another tangent on it so I started a new one to open up for discussion.

The gist is the Sam fan says there’s nothing bad 1 bro does to the other that there’s not smth comparable the other did to him & if you think either is worse that’s your fav bro double standard coming out.

My imd reaction is no way, I have a god damn novel to tell ya why Sam’s wrong doings are worse ok...but bc I’m up for civil debate & opposing views I started to think & consider this. 

Sam drinking demon blood for his greater good vs Dean taking on the MOC for his. Sam killing Emma vs Dean killing Amy. Sam is condescending to Dean vs Dean teases Sam & calls him names. Sam’s year off hunting with Amelia vs Dean’s year with Lisa. And all the others I’m leaving out...

My stance is even when the narrative is giving us parallels on shit they do Sam’s actions are normally a lot worse than Dean’s. On all the above I have my reasons why Sam’s side is ‘more wrong’ than Dean’s...but I have an admitted Dean bias. I can sit here & argue how 99% of the time I feel Dean is in the right & Sam is in the wrong but how much of that is from the bias? I mean, my belief that Sam treats Dean worse than Dean treats Sam isn’t changing, I’m not saying that. But I’m curious how much my bias factors into just how much worse I think Sam’s actions are. Like, am I too excusing when Dean is in the wrong bc I figure Sam deserves it? Am I over critical on Sam over the smaller things bc I’m holding the bigger ones against him still? Am I putting more weight on Sam’s wrongs bc I’ve always liked Dean better?

Ok all those questions are on me but my question to the floor is; What do you guys think? Are the bros wrongs to each other comparable? Is one brother worse to the other & if so, why would you say so? Compare & contrast any of the examples I gave or throw out your own.

I’d be interested in civil answers from everyone; Sam fan, bibro, Dean fan, whatever. I’m more curious on a Psych level atm than Dean fan bc Ik my opinions won’t change but I’m curious to all viewpoints bc of the bias thing.

My anon is open if you’d prefer answering there.

[theblessedbear]

Goodnight Dean Fans.

I thought a little Dean Winchester spam was in order for all his fans. A little treat before bed for some of us. I will do a monster Dean spam later. Enjoy.

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

I feel like the weird Dean fan who actually enjoys it when Dean takes care of Sam et al because DEAN enjoys taking care of the people he loves. I know its something instilled in him and not wholly fair when it comes to Sam, but I think it does a disservice to Dean's character to be wish he wasn't taking care of Sam. I see this too when Dean fans wish Sam would disappear because that would kill Dean and to my mind, that kind of thinking is not being a Dean fan.

For me, the issue isn’t that I have anything against Dean taking care of Sam. I agree, he enjoys doing for loved ones. Dean has a care taker personality.  I love that he has a big heart & wants to make sure everyone around him is ok. I definitely enjoy those big brother moments when he does for Sam. (C’mon, who could possibly not think it was the cutest thing when Dean wanted to airplane feed Sam?)

The problem for me (& ik others who’d agree) comes in bc Sam doesn’t return it. Sam is extremely selfish & self-centered. Even when he’s “looking out for Dean” he insists on doing it HIS way & it ends up becoming more about him than w/e he was trying to help Dean with to begin with. Also, as you pointed out, the fact that it’s been hardwired into Dean is an issue for a lot of Dean fans. It makes it hard for separating the natural care giver stuff Dean would have always done & the stuff he’s forced to do bc of it being beaten into him.

I agree with you on that, it does do Dean a disservice to expect/want him not to care for Sam. That’s who he is. He’s a loving, caring, selfless person. For him to not do that for Sam would go against what a great person he is & I certainly wouldn’t want to see him lose such an amazing part of himself. I also wouldn’t want to see him lose Sam entirely bc yes, it would hurt him too much & I can’t watch that shit. (Tho if he lost his memory of Sam altogether then it really wouldn’t be an issue so my opinion would change)

I know there are some Dean fans out there who just outright want Sam out of the picture no matter how it happens. But I think a lot are just frustrated when they say they want Dean to stop caring about him. They’re sick of it being one sided. I’d bet that given the choice a lot would prefer the option of Sam reciprocating the care giving rather than Dean stop what he does. The main complaint I, and a lot of Dean fans, have is that he’s mistreated. As long as that stopped the reason really wouldn’t matter too much.

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

1/4 Hello, I love this blog, it is so comforting to find sites love Dean and Jensen. I am a complete fan of Dean, who nevertheless likes J2 and brolove Dean and Sam, however most of the time is very difficult, because most of those said bibros or J2 fans are basically fans Jared and Sam who just like Dean and Jensen because they love much his friend / brother.

2/4 And it is very disappoint see on pages that are supposed to J2 or Bibro and only to find praise how great is Sam and Jared and how Dean and Jensen loves he. Even recently a girl public a beautiful story of how Jared treatment to a fan of the most beautiful form, and then said, now speak of Jensen, and only told a story of how he viewed Jared with so much love.

¾ However I know that Jensen also makes beautiful things for himself, and rarely is widespread, whereas if Jared does something, it is treated as the most perfect and special creature in the world. My request is the following, could share most beautiful anecdotes of things that Jensen does, for example, that conto “Victoria” the girl that J2 up to the panel, and yet no one has done gifset not mentioned much about it .

4/4 I can just with the English very little and very bad, so many times is frustrating not being able to express everything I wanted and what I see Jensen and Dean are special. So this is a request for fans who speak the language, spread it more special and beautiful that Jensen is also, and that his life is not just worship Jared. Thank you and sorry but this message so long and misspelled.

Thank you :-) Unfortunately it does seem that most bibro/J2 fans are more Sam/Jared focused. If you like Sam better that’s fine, but just say it. There’s no law forcing you to like both. And it hurts me as a genuine Jensen/Dean fan when he just used as a tool to love on Jared/Sam so I totally feel your frustration, anon.

Ugh, I haven’t seen that (hopefully I don’t) I’d rather them not even mention Jensen if it’s just going to be to praise/build up/ect Jared. Yes we know Jensen loves Jared, but he’s also his own person & I’d like that talked about & acknowledged a lot more. I totally agree. Jensen has done really great things & a lot go unappreciated, but Jared’s way more supported. I’m not saying to take any away from Jared, I’m just saying for them to add more to Jensen if they’re claiming to be a J2 fan. I bolded your request cuz YES I want that soooo much. Not to sound like I’m complaining, it’s brave to post photo ops, but a more often people post their op with Jensen & yes, say he was nice, but when you see a Jared op people post a novel. I want more details *iz greedy* I love reading fans’ Jensen con stuff. PSA Jensen fans, plz post more info when ya meet the Ackles, It’s in demand :-) I also bolded your 2nd request & will add another YES this too!

No apologies necessary, anon. I welcome all Jensen love. Thank you for sending this & feel free to message again anytime :-) And no worries on your English. I’m a native speaker & ik how confusing it can be. A lot just doesn’t make sense tbh haha. 

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

You make me want to make a 2nd account to join in the discussions :) My dean blog is just a side blog atm. Been watchin since S1 but never really been active in fandom. I half agree with you about Dean people seemingly being less into it than Sam/Misha stans, but I like to think its because we are just chill people who aren't stirring as much shit. The level of my activity in fandom does not mean I love Dean or Jensen any less. But you are right we should be there to defend him if/when necessary

Aww, I take that as a compliment :-) I strongly advise to do it. It was a great decision on my part. I started out with just a Dean/Jensen side blog on my main but nah, needed more. Oh, I didn’t mean to imply Dean fans are ‘less into it’ as far as dedication (hope that’s not what you thought I meant) we’re just less in numbers or so it seems & if you’re referring to a post that I’m thinking you are (how Dean fans aren’t obvious to spot like Sam/Cas fans on here) that was just an observation & commentary on Dean fans being easy to find, as in we’ll never actually know if we’re the minority cuz plenty of Dean blogs (ones I’m following myself) don’t ‘appear’ to be theme blogs. 

And I totally agree with your ‘but’ I don’t wanna use the word ‘clique’ cuz it carries a certain level of negative connotation to it, but I can’t really think of what to call it…a niche? Yeah, that’s better, I’ll go with that. Dean fans go online & find a Dean fan niche to get comfortable in, feel safe & discuss. I see a lot of stuff cross my dash that’s not even tagged…assumption that it’s intended for their followers, they’re staying ‘private’ to some degree. Dean blogs stick together & often have a lot of the same mutuals. We’ll post something & end up getting a good discussion out of it right from people on our dash. 

I haven’t even bothered going into the Spn tag since I started this blog a few months ago & I’ve only gone to the Dean/Jensen ones a few times. All I need is pretty much right here from the people I follow & if I think of something else I wanna talk about I post it & get responses. No, we don’t stir shit. We don’t really even usually bother with posts non Dean/Jensen related. The only crap drama that has been on my dash is from anon Sam stans or from a Sam stan who hijacked 1 of my posts or 1 of my mutuals posts. 

And no, it definitely doesn’t. People don’t have to be in the online fandom AT ALL to be a fan (actually they’re lives are probaly easier sometimes) I was actually watching the show almost 3 years before I bothered to join in online. My love of Dean & Jensen didn’t increase when I did. It was a big deal to me then & it’ll be a big deal to me when I leave the online fandom one day. Frankly, being involved in the fandom is often a pain in the ass. I enjoy a lot, but a lot is quite frustrating. Before all I did was watch the show & do my own stuff to be a fan. Now in the online fandom, I do enjoy discussing things with fellow Dean fans, but I also have to put up with the drama. Personally I’m not a fan of drama like a lot in the fandom seem to be.

And while I am a big advocate of defending Jensen & Dean when need be, I don’t wanna make it sound like I’m saying that is a requirement to be a good fan either, it’s not. If for whatever reason a fan choses not to defend, it doesn’t mean they’re lesser or anything. It’s just a big point of this blog is cuz I know there are people who WANT to post about Dean & Jensen (be it defense or anything else) but they are worried to have it on their blog. THAT’S what’s not ok. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. AND everyone should be able to express it w/o fear of getting attacked.

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

squirrelsan replied to your post “Something’s bugging me;”

I wanna add to this convo but at this point all I can do is agree with what everyone else has already said. Jensen was amazing! As usual. But the way the Sam and Bobby and the narrative at large treated Dean's terror and impending death? Despicable. Zero excuses for that. I know that Kripke did NOT mean it to be interpreted as "Dean is a dick and that's why he got sick," but as usual that was SAM'S interpretation, and the narrative failed to offer another one.

That’s kinda nice, right? I started this rant thinking maybe I was just being oversensitive about Dean or over reacting...but I got a ton of agreement & great commentary pointing out what BS was in this ep. Dean fans might always be in the minority, but at least when you’re outraged about something there some who feel it right with you & make great points. This’ll sound assholey, but I’ll take the quality of most Dean fans over the quantity of Sam stans any day. We seem to (as a whole) discuss & debate very well.

You’re the 2nd person to remark on Kripke not intending the ep this way. is this from an article/ep commentary?