#demi hate

[iowezaynmoney]

@demi what r u doing

[iamcravingkatnisseverdeen]

I’m confused, why is there Demi Lovato hate on Tumblr all of a sudden? I don’t understand haha.

[tyrannosaurus-sock]

asexual people are asexual. they experience no sexual attraction. grey & demi people are not quite asexual. they have similar yet different experiences from asexual people wrt sexual attraction. so they use different words. I never said graces & demis couldn't call themselves asexual. that's actually the opposite of what I said. I said that I don't feel that asexual (on it's own) should be used as an umbrella term that includes graces & demis because there are other inclusive terms to use.

look at it this way. people who don't experience sexual attraction have one word that means "does not experience sexual attraction". graces & demis have a few to describe their experiences. grey-a, demisexual, greysexual, asexual w/ exceptions, on the asexual spectrum, even asexual if they really want. there is also more than one term that is all inclusive. the one word that means "does not experience sexual attraction" has no need to also mean all those other things within educational contexts.

"I never said graces & demis couldn't call themselves asexual." Then what is the point of these asks? Because literally, I have said the same thing as you re: labels and what they mean, BUT I am saying grays and demis can call themself asexual if they want. You seem to be arguing that this isn't semantically correct when it is. Demis and grays have periods where they do not feel sexual attraction. That is asexuality. The definition of asexuality is "not feeling sexual attraction". That is open ended. It doesn't say "never ever feels sexual attraction". It just says "doesn't feel sexual attraction". We have words like demi and gray in order to have more explanatory labels, yes.

And I can see where it may be easier for demis and grays, when coming out, to simplify and then add details later along the way. Demis and grays have a unique experience among asexuals but this doesn't disqualify them from identifying as asexual. That is all I am saying.

I am a part of the queer community, but I am also queer. Demis and grays are a part of the asexual community, and they are also asexual. It's not the same asexual as you (I assume?) or I, but it is asexuality. That is all I am saying. I know the words are more specific, but that doesn't make them not asexual.

[tyrannosaurus-sock]

I know demis and grays are under the asexual umbrella, but they aren't asexual. They experience asexuality, but they also experience sexual attraction. It strikes me as erasure to discount that part of their identity and just call them asexual.

???

Where did I say they were just asexual? I remember writing out a whole little paragraph on how they were a part of both worlds, in fact, and yet it seems neither world will let them in because they straddle the scale.

But just because someone is not only asexual doesn't make them not asexual. Therefore, as I said before, demis and grays should be able to call themselves asexual if they want.

[tyrannosaurus-sock]

no demi or grace hate. no kicking them out. I think they're an important part of the community. I think they're individually welcome to use asexual if they want or if it's easier for them. I just don't think that asexual should be an umbrella term when we have other terms for inclusion. asexual is asexual. grace & demi are close but not asexual. that's why we have words like grace & demi. that's why we have terms like asexual community, asexual spectrum, & even ace for all inclusive discussions.

Yes, words to help define experiences more specifically, but I still fail to see why asexual people are not asexual. Sexuality or lack thereof is a scale. Some people are not purely sexual nor asexual, but are both at different times. They have a unique experience within the asexual community.Trying to say that demis and grays cannot call themselves asexual reminds me of all the LGBT folk who pushed me out of the LGBT community. Due to that gross exclusivity, I no longer fuck with the LGBT community. I stick with the queer, grsd, or mogai communities. I refuse to do the same to my fellow asexuals.Just because someone is not just asexual doesn't make them not asexual.

[ifelltomyknees]

Hey, just wondering, why do you dislike like Demi Lovato? I swear i'm not trying to start a fight or argument or anything! Pinky promise! I'm just curious.

Oh yeah i know its totally cool and valid I just really dislike her voice, her songs, and a lot of her message. She just seems really fake to me idk like and I feel like she uses her disorder a little bit too much. I realize shes a role model for people with eating disorders but theres a time to move on ya feel? thats part of the process. talking about it all the time doesn't really incorporate that part. 

(if you disagree with me, and not just this anon but ANY of you, please don't come to my ask because it's my opinion and it wont change, especially if you come and be rude to me. You have your opinion and I have mine) ((also thanks for asking this anon you're great)

[ifelltomyknees]

like how demi lovato was on the frozen soundtrack

oh god I know right I deleted her song I can't stand it like I wouldn't mind if she didn't change the lyrics??? and her high notes are like wtf??? why are you shouting at me this is a song not a foot ball game. 

[tyrannosaurus-sock]

Hm well yeah I guess I know NOTHING about demisexuality because I DEFINITELY don't have a cousin who is demisexual and DEFINITELY didn't teach me about it. I know about it, I'm very well educated about that stuff thank you very much. My point was that I didn't like how many labels/names there were for all these things, and how I THOUGHT that it all got confusing, even after being thoroughly educated.

And what content of that message was anti assexuality.

Good job listening to me when I asked you not to invade my inbox again. Dearnonacepeople already replied to your post with an explanation, so why is it so important to you to invade my safe space demanding education you've already been given after I asked you not to?