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The Blacklist - Exclusive interview with David E. Harrison (June 2024)

The broadcast of The Blacklist has concluded on Italian television. James Spader is currently on a work hiatus, and we thought it was the perfect time to give you a little gift.

Exclusively for the followers of Italian Spader Web, we are publishing an interview (in both Italian and English) with actor David E. Harrison, better known to The Blacklist viewers as Ivan Stepanov, a recurring character in the eighth season and crucial to Raymond Reddington's past. David kindly agreed to answer some of our questions, and now that the series has ended, he shares insights and stories from the show's set. To read the full interview: https://sites.google.com/view/harrison-interview/english

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So thanks to Skyrva I'm breaking down Diego's "one and only" Interview.

And boy, I had to re-read it due to Google Translation because many of his answers are based off raw definition not necessarily tone or slang. But this was enlightening to say the least. I can see why he hasn't spoken on the writing since 318. I mentioned this before: Lead actors that feel frustrated with the writing or story, will vent overseas. Spader did it for Australia. Now Diego for Poland. Unbelievable. No wonder Ryan Eggold was the only one shooting off his mouth. Embarrassing. Eggold acts like his Keen 2 story direction was planned all along. No it wasn't. and it's still not 100% guaranteed. When a lead actor cannot move demos, their Q rating falls. That means Network receives unfavorables with the overall impression of your character. That hasn't changed and once he returns, audience will see it's far too much of him. That's pretty bad because he's only so far in one episode. They'd be wise to cut him as much as possible in order to not jeopardize numbers. But Diego plainly informs the Polish Press one minute his story and character are progressing like a live movie then by the end of the season nothing. And you got to SHRUG IT OFF and "understand it's a process@ [THATS WHAT HW SAY TO ACTORS ON HOLD. IT DOESN'T LAST LONG. ] Here's why. INTERVIEWER: In the third season, your role has changed, and your character saw more of doubt and pain - [Describe how] you played it? Diego Klattenhoff: At first it was great. [AND THIS IS 3A.]The role was significantly different than at the beginning, [DIEGO IS EXPLAINING HIS ROLE IN STORY IN 3A WAS A SHARP CONTRAST COMPARED TO 3B AND HE KIND OF THROWS SOME SHADE HERE BETWEEN THE TWO STORY DIRECTION. In 3A THE PRODUCTION CREW WROTE IT LIKE] [More like a] “movie series.” I was much more strongly involved in the hunt for Liz. [HERE HE EXPLAINS HE HAD STORY INPUT AND DIRECTION WITH HIS CHARACTER HE WAS MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THE STORY PROCESS. SOUND FAMILIAR?] Later we returned to a more [PROCEDURAL] nature of the Blacklist . [THE POINT HES MAKING IS IN THE BEGINNING HIS ROLE WAS INTERPERSONAL TIED TO THE SERIAL NATURE of the original canon. IN 3B it's PLOT PLOT PLOT PROCEDURAL NO INTERPERSONAL DIALOGUE ITS DIFFERENT. And RATINGS REFLECTED THAT] The point is not that there is some magic formula that we should stick to, [DIEGO PREFERS CHARACTER DRIVEN STORYTELLING NOT PLOT IT WAS CHARACTER DRIVEN FOR HIM TO HUNT DOWN LIZ BECAUSE OF HIS JOB AND HIS FEELINGS FOR LIZ -CONFLICT IS STORY. WHEN THERE IS NONE, your show CANNOT PROGRESS] but [Its] very interesting [To see] how such changes [AH THERE IT IS. PROOF THAT 3B WAS ALTERED DELIBERATELY-HE WAS LED TO BELIEVE ONE STORY THEN THEY DROPPED IT AT THE END] affect the series itself and its perception by the audience. [INTERESTING TO HIM HOW THOSE CHANGES IN 3B occurred and how it's PERCEIVED BY THE AUDIENCE] INTERVIEWER: Ressler was torn by internal conflicts. I think that it [played very well]. Yes, [On] the one hand, he wanted [To arrest her] [Because she's a killer] on the other hand … he loved her. [Lets take this apart because it's important. HES GIVING STORY DIRECTION. DIEGO WAS TO PLAY 3A ,CONFLICTED BECAUSE ON ONE HAND HE WANTED TO ARREST A CRIMINAL. On The other hand..HE LOVED HER. SO THERES YOUR CONFIRMATION. RESSLER IS STILL IN LOVE WITH LIZ. AND HE WAS TO PLAY IT THAT WAY. But then 3B changed everything and he mentions that. He is not happy he's frustrated and u cannot blame him.] Just as in life. [NOW THIS IS INTERESTING. He's basically saying, YOU LOVE THIS PERSON, but you want to "kill them" at the same time when they HURT YOU. HE IS ALSO EXPLAINING THE CURRENT STORYLINE NOW. RESSLER/LIZ WENT DIFFERENT WAYS FEELINGS THERE BUT NOT TOGETHER. He's BASICALLY USING A REAL ANALOGY TO DESCRIBE THAT RESSLER RIGHT NOW HAS THAT SAM/DIANE LOVE/Hate thing going on because Liz makes him crazy...and do crazy things...she violates his ethics...but he's got feelings for her So he copes] I do not mean that specifically with Megan, [NO WE GET IT DIEGO ] but to people in general. There are certain things that you love. [THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU LOVE IN REGARDS TO A PERSON ][When you start to go in a different direction theres more fun] [NOW WE ARE BACK TO STORY DIRECTION] Not always to the end, [AS IN THE LAST 3 EPISODES WERE CHANGED ] you know which way everything is moving, [As IN EVERYTHING WAS MOVING FORWARD WITH KEENLER THEN IT STOPPED AT GREGORY DEVRY] but then you just have to shrug and tell yourself that this is a process that also depends on the other person. [SO THE DUMB ASSED WRITERS HAVE RESSLER IN LOVE WITH LIZ, BUT RESSLER BELIEVES LIZ IS IN LOVE WITH TOM (SO SICK SERIOUSLY BUT THATS WHY RATINGS ARE DOWN RESSLER IS IN LOVE WITH LIZ WHEN HE SEES HER AT THE SUMMER PALACE BUT HIS WORLD OF BLACK AND WHITE[Shes with Tom he won't touch that] Since [Its about] both of you. [He's saying IT CANNOT BE ONE SIDED] Let’s say - you appear in [a scene], [NOW HES TELLING YOU WHAT HAPPENS BTS AS IN YOU SEE THEM GIVE EYES A LOOK SIGNALING MORE THAN JUST IN THAT MOMENT SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON AND HE CANNOT PLAY IT LIKE THAT WITHOUT MEGAN GIVING AS MUCH AS HE DOES IN THOSE SCENES. How she gives moon eyes to him] and although you do not see the [scene] make sense, [HES TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT DIALOGUE ACTION IS MOVABLE STORY NOT JUST IN STUNTS BUT INTERPERSONAL DIALOGUE AND WHEN ITS GONE, THEY PLAY TENSION OR AS WE SAY IN THE SCRIPT LIKE AT THE END OF LADY AMBROSIA PLAY THE MOMENT. LIZ LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS LONGING FOR RESSLER] you have to do something, because I have to. With this, it was very pleasant. [I THINK HE USED A DIFFERENT WORD BUT YOU GET THE GIST. THEY CREATED SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING WITH THOSE LONGING LOOKS. AND THIS IS 3A & 3B HES TALKING ABOUT. THERES SOMETHING UNDER THE SURFACE. A SCENE MAKES NO SENSE BUT THEY GIVE THESE LOOKS.] Megan is a great person, very well with her game, she can contribute a lot to the show, so this type of relationship is very engaging. [AGAIN HES REFERRING TO KEENLER AND ENGAGING I DON'T THINK HE USED THAT WORD EITHER I think he used APPEALING SAME MEANING] We’ll see how it unfolds in the year. [SO HERE AGAIN DIEGO EXPLAINS KEENLER IS UP IN THE AIR NOT DEAD BUT UNEXPLAINED AND ALTHOUGH SCENES MAKE NO SENSE THEY ARE STILL PLAYING SOMETHING ELSE. EXAMPLE: Blacklist PR ASKED "DO WE SENSE SOME TENSION?" That one scene episode 3, Liz stares down Ressler in his office. He looks down. That's deliberate SO HE IS TELLING FANS A YEAR. TRULY DISGUSTING HIS CHARACTER IS ON HOLD TILL THE DAMN KEEN2CRAP PLAYS OUT. But that's basically what he's saying. Keenler isn't dead, just limbo] [I SAID THIS BEFORE WITH RATINGS IN FREE FALL THEY'D BE SUICIDAL NOT TO DO KEENLER AFTER ALL THIS GARBAGE. THEY WERE HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION SO GO BACK BEFORE THE SHOW DIES BECAUSE OF ONE CHARACTER. DIEGO NEVER MENTIONS HIM AND HE DOESNT GIVE STORY INPUT ABOUT LIZ FEELINGS EITHER, JUST HOW MEGAN AND HIM WERE PLAYING IT IN 3A and then how they continued to play it in 3B] INTERVIEWER: I assume that a few weeks after the death of Liz people accosted you on the street and asked for information, and you could not tell them anything …[YES HE WAS ON GAG ORDER WHENEVER A SHOW IS DARK ACTORS CANNOT REVEAL STORY INPUT. ILL BE REALLY SURPRISED IF BLACKLIST LEAKS-Not because OF SPOILERS BUT BECAUSE THEY CHANGE STORY ALWAYS AT THE LAST MINUTE. [THEY NEVER STICK TO THEIR OWN ARC] Frankly, given the nature of the shocking death of [Liz] my character had neither too long nor too many scenes that relate to it. [HERE HE IS FRUSTRATED AGAIN. AND WE ALL KNOW WHY. THEY DIDN'T TELL HIM ANYTHING AT THE END. STORY AS HE MENTIONED WAS GOING FINE UP UNTIL THE END] That’s why I was surprised that people ask [me] about it. Because several of these people were, [Yes they wanted to know where was RESSLER AND WHY DIDN'T HE HAVE SCENES ] I agree. [I DO LOVE THIS SHADE HE GIVES, BECAUSE HES RIGHT. How they wrote 3B was selfish and deceptive.] It is unfortunate that the writers did not pay more attention to this, [or] how this situation has affected Ressler. [YES THIS IS WHY BOKENKAMP/Eisendrath PROMISED DIEGO IN SEPTEMBER THEY WERE WORKING ON STORY FOR HIM YET DIEGO DIDN'T TWEET BACK NOR ENGAGE IN ANYTHING AFTER LAST YEAR SINCE 318-WHEN THE STORY CHANGED IN PRESENT TIME FOR HIM] I was a little surprised, in the end they were partners. There was some animosity between them in the first and second season, but then everything started [To play like they got along well ] [But] There has not been any romantic themes. [Now this is IMPORTANT. Go back to 317-318 320 dialogue-LIZ WEDDING COOPER GIVES THE SPEECH] I spoke with our television series advisor. The FBI and various police about what feeds the feelings to your partner. [CRYPTIC DIEGO GIVING YOU STORY DIRECTION WITHOUT REVEALING STORY. GO TO ARTAX NETWORK AND READ TOM KEENS TEXT TO AGNES DOCTOR AND HOW TOM AND LIZ THOUGHT OF EACH OTHER AND YOU MATCH THAT TO WHAT DIEGO SAYS HERE. Same with the wedding vows] Everyone said that due to the fact that so much time is spent away from the family, the partners become for you family. I think this year, this knowledge somehow pays off. [SO YOU HAD BOKENKAMP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON TALK ABOUT THE TASK FORCE AS A FAMILY YET NONE OF THEM INTERACT LIKE A FAMILY YET RESSLER AND LIZ ARE PARTNERS AGAIN AND TOM IS GONE. OK SO ARE WE GETTING THE GIST OF WHAT HE IS SAYING? ILL GIVE YOU A HINT IN NATALIE LUCA ALONG WITH THE FORBIDDEN LOVE ANGLE LIZ SHOUTS AND RESSLR ADMITS THE COUPLE FELL FOR EACH OTHER IN THE WORKPLACE, LIZ AND TOM REFER TO KEEN 3 as "This family" not "our family." BOKENKAMP WROTE IT AND ITS DELIBERATE DIALOGUE BECAUSE THEY BOTH REPEAT IT BEFORE ADMITTING THEY ARE FALLING APART EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TOGETHER.] image INTERVIEWER: It’s nice that there was a little warm feelings from Samar. Whether it will develop? I do not think so. [THAT WAS MATTER OF FACT.] They wanted to go this route, but later it became a one-off, a closed issue. [I KNOW WHY LOL EISENDRATH WANTED THIS SO KEEN2 COULD HAPPEN] I do not know what will happen after the fourth episode of the new season. [BUT HE KNEW SAMAR HAD FEELINGS FOR ARAM.] Samar discovered [Her] feelings [For Aram] before Ressler, but I do not know yet how he will approach this. [RESSLER DIDCOVERS SAMARS FEELINGS FOR ARAM BUT HE DOESNT KNOW HOW HE APPROACHES IT.] INTERVIEWER: What is the beginning of the fourth season for the Ressler? We begin where it left off [from] the previous season. We’re trying to find Liz. Ressler follows the footsteps, trying to find Tom, and then Agnes. It is not easy for him, because he lives in a world where everything is black or white, good or bad, right or wrong. In this matter I think nothing has changed. [PLOT MODE] INTERVIEWER: Some of the current topics feature almost predicted the events that occurred in the real world. This applies to several series, which played in the Homeland. Is this something you are looking for, what do you care? [IS DIEGO LOOKING FOR STORIES ON THE BLACKLIST TO REFLECT REAL LIFE LIKE HOMELAND? HERES ONE HINT: SALKE IS.] I think it goes hand in hand with a good script. [SHADE] [It worked out really well for Law and order. Homeland [showed] almost exactly what happened in Paris. But those scenarios were created months earlier. [Predicting the future.] Much depends on whether the [STORY] board [has writers] who feel what can happen and which way [the] events will turn out. Something like this testifies to the fact that the show is good, it is well written. [AND WE KNOW FROM THE RATINGS, the plot mode of 3B THAT THE SHOW IS HORRIBLE AND ITS WRITING.] I hoped that was easier to read. IMO I'd expect the worst, until the show gives concrete story to give you otherwise. [THE SHOW IS DARK FOR A REASON] PS I haven't seen this gift before what was the dialogue surrounding it because once again these two are expressing mutual sadness that relates not to the case but each other. That's a medium panoramic and it's done to capture reaction simultaneously. Such as...👇🏻