#dragxtalk

[damagedghoulette]

Does anyone have a dragtalk rosy crown vinyl for sale?

[times-new-scrotum]

cw// discussion of CSA, sexual assault, predatory behaviour and the unmasked ghouls

hi, I want to give my two cents on what's been going on with Jutty Taylor and his behaviour towards young fans.

The initial allegations that were brought forward are MORE THAN substantiated at this point, the young person who brought these accusations forward provided more than was necessary.

It is no one's job to be microanalysing their story. You are not a detective, you are not the police. They have provided a photo and text messages. They have come out with their real name. That is more than enough, especially for a 15 year old.

Jutty Taylor eventually gave a proper apology but maintained that this was inadvertent; he didn't mean for it to happen. In his response, he said that he was hoping it would reach them and that he wanted to resolve this. As much as I've been thoroughly disgusted and disappointed by all of this, if he's serious about this, I am willing to wait and see if he actually follows through.

It is the victim's job to determine whether or not he is being truthful here. Not you. Let them come to that conclusion.

EDIT: this equally applies to people who are adamant he is telling the truth and those who are adamant he is lying.

You weren't there so you can't make that assessment, and while we all should be BELIEVING THE VICTIMS when they say what happened, there is no way you can parasocially analyse what is or was going on in his head.

Let's leave this up to the victims please, since a lot of these discussions tend to get bogged down in "he'd never do this" or "I think he's telling the truth" or "I think he's being performative here" or "I think he's lying" like, no, no you don't know any of that actually.

Jutty also responded to other allegations that had been brought forward - about inappropriate interactions in DMs with a 19 year old. He provided some context to a screenshot that was circulating, where it looked like he was encouraging underage drinking.

My thoughts about this are that going forward, he needs to be drawing some hard lines in the sand about how he interacts with his fans. It was inappropriate because he is an artist and they are his fan, and there is a significant age gap there. I think there is a concerning pattern of behaviour here.

Please, let's not throw around words like "p*dophile". This has a very specific definition, and watering it down is extremely unhelpful and does more harm than good. You can refer to his actions as predatory, and call him a creep, but please, let's not use this word when there are no victims who are prepubescent children.

Feel free to disagree with me, by the way. I think it's important for us to discuss these things.

[zephanghoulz]

Here is what jutty recently posted on Twitter, for those who have not seen it yet.

[zephanghoulz]

This is a follow up to my post from last night about what's going on in twitter.

Before I show what jutty has posted, I want to say, anyone that has been through anything related to this topic, or any other serious topic. Don't be afraid to reach out to people, I can understand why anyone would be uncomfortable, uneasy, or scared to share any information about what has happened to you.

As for the post from last night, I was only mentioning what I had spotted / found, and thought about the situation.

Without further ado, I have always never been keen of the guy to begin with, yes, his music was good. But I was never sure how to feel about him. And this proves it.

Yes, could have been an "accident" as he says, but never do that to anybody that you don't know, or know would NOT like these actions. Be mindful about the people around you.

[ashthewaterghoul]

Here’s Jutty’s response

While I’m glad it was fairly quick and from his own account, he didn’t do a simple thing.

He did not say “I’m sorry”

This child also said his hand was up her jacket which doesn’t feel accidental or “inadvertent” to me…

Many other people are coming forward with how Jutty has been weird with them as well and it breaks my heart for all affected.

Unless he seriously takes accountability and apologises, I won’t be supporting him and his supporters will be added to my DNI.

[zephanghoulz]

Just wanted to point out the post on twitter about Jutty Taylor / DragxTalk.

Before I continue on about this, I want to say, I am not on either side of this. I don't really pay that much attention to jutty's works.

TRIGGER WARNING: TALK OF SA.

But in any form, SA is a harsh thing that happens almost every day on this planet.

Besides that, I want to say I don't necessarily believe this because of some things I saw.

1. The account was created in October of this year. (2024) (if that's even useful information.)

2. They mentioned this happened on March 8th of 2024, which in the DragxTalk accounts, their only form of "content" they posted was them mentioning how they would have a show the day AFTER march 8th. They didn't have a concert on march 8th, 2024. (I had searched deep for this.)

3. A friend of mine had also pointed out how this started very close after that Katt person deleted their account & posted about per on twitter when jutty responded to them.

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I want to state once again, I do not agree nor disagree about what is going on for BOTH SIDES. Sexual assault is still bad in any form. But please.. People out there can and do lie about this topic, and it sucks. Now, I am not saying that they are lying, or are not lying. I am only pointing out the things I have noticed & found about this. That is why seeking out information about these things is important, I myself am glad that people are looking out for this person, as it should be for anyone who HAS been in any experience of SA.

[ashthewaterghoul]

Jfc you think you can trust a guy.

Believe victims.

Not gonna show any public support for Jutty Taylor until there is a response from him. This is serious shit and can’t be ignored.

For context, an underaged fan of Drag Talk has spoken about how Jutty grop*d her at a show. (X)

I’m not sure if anything else has been said but that, please tell me if there’s has.

Kinda in limbo for how to feel right now…

But DO NOT try and defend this grown man. You don’t know him.

Also, FUCK the Drag Talk discord server for trying to quieten the conversation about this. Holy fuck this is stuff people need to know about.

Obviously I will hold out for a response but it better be coming from his own account and not the Drag Talk one. If he tries to hide behind the band, my respect for him shall simply cease to exist as it is already heading right now.

Update, response can be found here

[damagedghoulette]

I would not trust Jutty to drive me anywhere like…

KEEP YOUR FUCKING EYES ON THE ROAD HONEY

IM FUCKIN STRESSING ABOUT YOUR FUCKIN SAFETY OVER HERE 😭

No one is safe when Jutty is on the road