#jutty taylor

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SWISS

I love him so much holyy shieeeeeet

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A vampire always carries protection ig @ bones_shredder - jutty, twitter

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The 'evidence' against Jutty Taylor is literally nothing. The photo posted of the event has been claimed to be someone else's photo that was stolen, and then everyone else's stories are just screenshots of him sending them merch or inviting them to other shows he's in as promo, and one person just said he was vaguely flirty at a meet and greet and said it was gross because they were younger than him, but they were also an adult and it's unlikely he asked their age? It's very weird to see everyone jump on this and flood the comments of the official ghost insta page with demands to fire jutty when there's seemingly no evidence that anything actually happened?? I've read through all the supposed receipts and they're just people saying they got weird vibes with nothing actually proving anything.

Edit to say I have had some additional screenshots sent across, and I do agree it's dodgy that he speaks to fans online so much in private, I also still dont think the info we have so far is enough for the label to drop him immediately, which is why people have taken it into their hands to be completely deranged online. In my opinion, we as fans don't get to control who is in the band or what they do, fair enough, email your concerns to the label, but don't message other band members, don't message him, don't message relatives or friends, or other people who know him. Don't turn every Ghost social media post into a call for blood. Ultimately, the band could keep him (I know he's missing currently but we don't know if this is permanent as his staging and mic are still set up each night) and it's their choice to do so. The best way to ACTUALLY protest him being in the band, if you feel that's something you want to do, is to stop giving them money. Stop going to gigs, don't buy the album or the merch, don't interact online. If you truly, honestly believe he's that awful, why are you contributing to his bank account via Ghost? To me I don't feel I have enough strong evidence to justify my involvement in contacting the label, or in boycotting the band or the individual. If that changes, so would my actions.

It is insane to be sending death threats off the back of one person's tweets about their story as someone who doesn't know either party. It is deranged to involve yourselves in the bands lives, it's fucking ridiculous to grab a pitchfork and litter the social media pages for Ghost with demands that Tobias Forge should specifically make an announcement and beg your forgiveness and grovel. It's incredibly entitled to expect something as big and complex with so many people to stop and change it's entire shit at your personal request. Frankly, if you don't like the situation, don't interact with the band. But people want to have it all, they want to be able to listen to the band and have their blorbos and make their fanfic and all that, but they want to make sure everyone else knows they're morally elevated and superior because they're sending one of the musicians death threats 👍

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What Jutty Haters are too scared to acknowledge

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BTW Jutty Taylor was in the audience at last night's ritual 🥹

[palesweetdeeer]

can’t believe I have to address this but here we go: If you support or excuse or defend Jutty Taylor in any fucking way, block me and leave me the fuck alone.

Some people seem to confuse my art with real life people so, once again: My ghouls are NEVER to be associated with the musicians portraying them. Never. My Swiss is just Swiss, he is a fictional character with a personality and a design that I made up and that has nothing, not even the tiniest fucking bit, to do with the real people he happens to be inspired by.

So, kindly, if you can’t understand that or want to twist my works into stuff they aren’t, get the fuck out.

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On the topic of Jutty Taylor and the allegations going around..

Just imagine if they're not true and you've just ended an artists career because you weren't emotionally intelligent enough to make an educated opinion of your own..

All the years of blood, sweat and tears. All the sleepless nights. The missed meals. The travel. The selflessness. The energy and talent night after night, year after year..

Or worse..

Imagine if he's innocent but all the bullying and stress took a toll on him and he took his own life..

It's not even just Jutty but Per and Liv too..

Social media is a scary and un-policed place. Cancel culture is DANGEROUS!

Innocent until proven guilty. And I mean guilty of something illegal, not immoral.

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Believe what you want, but sending vile death threats and ganging up on someone you know nothing about is iniquitous!

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On the elephant in the room.

I know my two cents might not matter to most, but I feel the need to share my thoughts on this situation. As an older fan I am really disappointed and disgusted with what has happened on twitter.

As many of you know by now, Justin Taylor (aka Swiss) is officially off the band’s current tour. I won’t rehash every detail—I’m sure if you’ve spent any time online, you’ve seen the accusations flying around. Justin was accused of inappropriately touching an underage fan and “grooming” two others.

As a victim of sexual assault and grooming myself, I always want to believe victims first. But this situation? It never sat right with me. And this isn’t coming from a place of idolizing Justin or putting him on a pedestal. I don’t do that with celebrities. Justin is just a man. A talented one but he is still a human.

First, I want to address the photo incident: this was investigated by the police, and nothing came of it. I’ve also heard reports that the person in the photo wasn’t even the one making the accusation. There are so many holes and versions of this story it feels more like a smear campaign than anything solid. And maybe accidents happen. I’m a short person; I know what it’s like when someone accidentally brushes against me in a crowded space. It doesn’t mean intent. If Justin was regularly “touching fans,” wouldn’t we have heard more from others by now? Use your brain.

Second, the grooming claims. Grooming is the act of forming a relationship with a child with the intention of sexual exploitation. The people accusing him were 18 or a bit older. Now, is an older man flirting with an 18-year-old gross? Sure. But it’s not illegal. It’s not grooming. Look at our culture—18-year-olds can work in strip clubs, sell explicit content online, and there are entire genres of porn centered around barely-legal themes. I’m not saying that’s right—but in the eyes of the law, 18 is an adult.

I say this from experience: I was groomed at 16 by a man ten years older who waited until I was “legal” to make his move. That’s grooming. Not some flirty messages exchanged between adults.

Third, let’s talk about the crowd pushing these accusations. They’re mostly young, extremely online individuals. These are the same people who preach tolerance but are the first to send death threats the moment someone disagrees with them. And death threats? That’s disgusting. (I’m looking at the ones who threatened TF’s kids)

This insane behavior is never okay. You think you’re doing good, but if Justin were to hurt himself over this, that blood would be on your hands.

I am all for justice when it is done correctly. Let a band handle their internal affairs. But this rise of online justice has devolved into mob rule, where accusations alone are enough to condemn someone. Facts no longer matter—only public outrage does. Innocent until proven guilty? That’s dead. The internet now plays judge, jury, and executioner.

Instead of wasting energy tearing down someone you’ve never met, maybe channel that passion into something real—volunteer at a survivor’s shelter, support real victims. Get off the site run by a literal Nazi and go do something good for your community.

Finally people need to stop going after Per, Randy, Cos, Olivia, Hayden, and Tobias. These people are Justin’s friends—they’ve spent years touring, rehearsing, and performing together. Don’t you think they know Justin better than strangers on the internet? They’ve chosen to stand by him for a reason.

I’ve been a Ghost fan for 13 years—since the early days when they played Maryland Deathfest. And honestly? I’m disappointed and embarrassed by the behavior of so many fans today. Since MOAC blew up, it feels like there’s this new wave of fans who have made Ghost their entire personality, turning the band into some toxic obsession.

I do hope Justin gets a lawyer and holds every person who spread hate and lies accountable. But if it comes out that I am wrong about everything then I’ll eat my words. Period.