"in the US in particular, in many cases we are asking people to just overnight shift from hyper individualism which has always been encouraged as a value in the US, to giving a crap about the common good. That is a pretty big shift....look, we're gonna have to actually think through some pretty big cultural shifts, and I know nobody wants to do that, and everybody says "we'll get to that later, there's no time for that" but we're gonna bake in problematic solutions if we don't deal with all of that stuff roiling underneath."
-Amy Westervelt, award winning journalist and podcast host of Drilled, speaking about the actions that have to happen on a population scale to solve the climate crisis on the podcast Outrage and Optimism Ep. 216, Drilled, Baby, Drilled!














