I canât believe that itâs the end of EAPS already but ig it was gonna end at some point
Iâm so happy that I got to experience watching the videos and being in the community. This fandom meant so much to me I loved seeing Eclipse grow into a better person and seeing all the emotions that all the characters expressed throughout the show.
I just love how the whole show was written and Iâm hoping that everyone will get a happy ending in the show (really hoping they all do guys they deserve it)
Well guys I honestly donât know what to say but Iâm going to miss this show so much so thank you to the voice actors and everyone who worked on the show because it was amazingâŒïž
I was honestly not expecting Puppet to be in today's episode, I'd also frankly forget about the deal she and Ruin made.
I went back to watch the video [this video right here] when that deal was made, and wrote a couple of notes on what was said.
[Fat theory/rant under]
A lot of what she says is about how she's 'not allowed to die', this being because she's not made up for her debt.
"Yours is a bit bigger than mine, but I carry mine personally." Puppet carried her guilt personally because she knew the most of the faces of those she killed, and she actively despised Ruin for not doing the same. Although did acknowledge that his was more anonymous rather than vindictive/personal.
Due to what Puppet had done, both she and Ruin hypothetically should live until the end of the universe, not just any dimension - all of them. And of course, Puppet hasn't done that. Or has she?
"No matter what, you're stuck here - not here, not even in any dimension," As long as I'm alive, at least." The "not here" refers to the dimension they were in, the dying dimension that Ruin returns to upon his death in today's episode. [Side note- I find it quite humorous that that dimension is more linked with Puppet now, rather than Eclipse. It was originally his comfort place, until Puppet discovered it and it has been associated with her ever since.] Now, the last bit: "As long as I'm alive at least" could in theory mean that Puppet is still alive. However, I don't think that is quite the case.
I think something similar to what happened to Nexus has occurred. Now please don't mind the connotation between the two, what I mean is what happened to him after he came back.
Nexus himself didn't come back. He's dead. [Not too sure whether the following bit was stated by the characters themselves, the VAs, or if I'm just plain wrong and a little crazy] But he partially, in soul, came back. For the most part, it was the NSP that did it, but that can relate back to Puppet with her powers. And what there actually was of Nexus was just the lingering remains of his consciousness. He wasn't actually there.
I think Puppet making that connection with Ruin and intertwining their souls has made her lingering conscious attach to him. Their deal should, by all technicality, be null and void with her being dead. After all, it was only supposed to be in effect with her being alive, with her powers being there, to keep it going. Puppet's lifespan meant that regardless she should have lived till the end of the universe, their deal just meant that Ruin would as well.
If Puppet's consciousness is attached to Ruin, that means that she can infact live out that promise that she made to herself. Although she didn't think that it would make up for what she'd done, it's still the very least that she can do.
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Puppet still lingers. She not only influences the characters, but also haunts the narrative. Only slightly, but definitely enough to make her continuous mentions interesting.
A pretty obvious point to her influence is Charlie. She possesses the puppet body after all and has previously been influenced by the knowledge and personal feelings of Puppet. When FC reappeared being an example. She knew exactly who he was and how she 'should' feel about him. But it wasn't actually her that was feeling this way. It was Puppet.
Puppet as a person is dead. But her consciousness still lingers.
"We'll witness it. We'll wait." Long after I've forgotten about him, and FC, and Eclipse, and all of them, even after all that. We'll still be working on it." Puppet's wording of this implies that she and Ruin will witness the end of the universe together. It seems almost out of the question that they wouldn't. But it wouldn't be just the two of them, or rather it wouldn't be Puppet singularly herself.
To ensure that the Puppetmaster died along side her, she merged herself with it. They became one.
Another detail from today's episode was that Puppet seemed a little harsh, a little vindictive. That could be because she was mad that Ruin had died despite their deal, or, because of the duel consciousness of herself and Puppetmaster, equal influences in a lingering consciousness. If Puppet in some shape or form isn't dead, then that means that Puppetmaster isn't either.
I don't hate the Eclipse x Roxanne path the show is taking.
Hear what I have to say!!
I think this relationship is necessary and I'm going to use some of my own experiences for an example.
Eclipse has no idea what romance even is. He has spent just enough time to realize that he likes the idea of dating, and he wants to know the person beforehand. That's all he's verbally stated. He really doesn't know much about what loving someone vs liking someone feels like. He doesn't have preferences at the moment. He doesn't know what he likes or what he dislikes. He basically knows nothing about himself. I think him getting into a relationship with Roxanne will be his learning experience.
I've been in a situation similar to Eclipse. I didn't spend much time thinking about couples and stuff like that. I just spent enough time thinking about it to scratch the surface. When I started to mention someone and seemed excited to talk about them, everyone immediately took it as a crush both ways. I didn't know what love really felt like so I assumed I had a crush like everyone said. What knowledge did I have to go on? None. That's the thing. So I ended up getting into a relationship with this person. During this time I learned about myself. I was able to develop and refine my romantic identity, and after a while the relationship ended. No, it wasn't a super dramatic or close relationship, but it was necessary. If I didn't take that first step and put myself into a situation where I could learn. I'd still be clueless.
I feel Eclipse will go through something similar. Everyone seems to be pushing the idea of him and Roxanne getting together. So he might start to think that what he's feeling is love and he'll go for it. He'll spend some time with Roxy in a romantic sense and slowly learn about himself. He'll start to get an idea of what love truly is and what his romantic identity truly is. But he can't learn if he has nothing to learn from. I would be happy if they ended up staying together, but I don't think that's likely. I believe that after a little while, they'll split up. Not in a toxic, tears pouring, way. On a healthy way. They'll both have their reasons and they'll come to an understanding. Then they'll go back to being the platonic co-parent friends they were before. This time with a new found understanding of themselves and the other.
I also believe that after all that happens we'll be introduced to Chica and likely get some Roxy x Chica drama. For Eclipse, we might get introduced to a new character, but that won't be for a good while. He'll spend a good amount of time single, but he'll use that time to think more of his opinion on relationships and build his understanding.
Anyways. That was my little late night ramble. Thank you for listening! Good night!
I swear I might sound selfish for saying this but I'm genuinely scared for Eclipse x Roxanne to become cannon. It feels so strange and almost even alien to me to think about this dude being in a relationship, specifically with Roxanne.
The way I saw the situation before all this... He's slowly learning to open up to friends, learning to be a better caregiver to the kids and basically just slowly building his life back up from scratch. But then they gotta throw love in there? So soon? If Eclipse was now fully comfortable with himself and others, you know... more in a stable situation both mentally and with the situation with Afton, fine... But my god it all feels so rushed.
It's also hard for me cus I've always seen Eclipse and Roxanne as either a dad and teenage/older daughter kinda bond or even a sibling bond. So hearing that they now might turn into a cannon ship makes my gut wrench. Sure Roxanne helps him out wherever she can and she's always there for him, but that doesn't automatically make it into "Ah yes, lets ship them". Friends can be really caring and always helping out! I loved the idea of them co parenting together as best buddies!
I've loved Eclipse for so long and seeing him change in the span of a breath feels terrible. The guy has never been interested in love or relationships. Hell, he'd gut himself alive before even thinking about it. But now in a span of 3 DAYS that all has changed!
In my mind, it's also not the same as the namechange of Terra and Cosmos. With that news, I thought "Ughh... I was so used to their old names, why you gotta change them now??" But now I like them cus I got used to them. With this situation, I don't think I ever will! I don't even know if I can watch the series in the same way I did before if it becomes a thing!
Ofcourse I don't want to spread hate or be disrespectful towards the writers... But I don't really have TSBS friends I can yap about this too so.. yeah. I'm just frustrated
I will never get over the Mimic arc. I can't help but think about it CONSTANTLY. I'm so serious. Being forced into your head? Having this twisted version of someone you "hate" speak to you about things you did? Reminds me of a certain monkey...
But like...what else do you think happened? What else did the Mimic do? What else did he torment Eclipse with? Did he even do anything else besides what we saw? Or do you think he showed more? Like actually replayed July 16th for example? Or when he blew up Lunar? Did he show any twisted versions of memories? What else did the Mimic do? I need to know.
Every time I think about Eclipse, I think about Mimic. And I can't help but think about Wukong and the scroll from season 4 oh my goddd. AND the weird palace jail from season 5. Gahhh special interests are overlapping....
A little eaps rant I get it yâall donât like ruin but in my opinion ruin has every reason to act how he is acting because I feel yâall donât understand RUIN HASNT SEEN HIS MONTY IN FUCKING YEARS dose that mean what he did is okay no absolutely not but something I saw I get it have your own opinions but someone said ruin deserves got everything he deserves this was before everything with ruin but letâs be so honest if Solar didnât exist would anyone care what ruin accomplished
Ok, For starters Ruin, youâre an asshole dudeđđ». I was gonna give him a chance again because he helped out a lot when it came to the Mimic situation, Charlieâs powers, etc. even though he destroyed 5000+ dimensions and killed Solar in the process.
Of course once his Monty shows up, he completely looses all thought. Donât get me wrong, I have been rooting for them to save his Monty too(itâs understandable to do anything in your power if you have a chance to save someone/something you loveđâ€ïž) and it was awesome Eclipse helped out with that. đ«¶đ»
But it was the fact Ruin told Charlie that they would stay like that for a little bit, sacrificing everyone in the Plex, and Lefty telling him that everything is going to crap and itâs just a matter of time that something really bad happens.(also funny Lefty is Eclipseâ emergency contactđprobably because he wasnât going to be infected for a while and needed someone to give Henry the go-to if he needed him to get the kids out of there) I believe that Ruin has to let him go, as much as myself and most people would not want. But I think having Monty around is a reminder of what Ruin went through and how he couldnât fix it.
I also wanna say I believing in those theories of why Eclipse is being affected the way he is. The virus is having some reverse effect on him since he is angry most of the time and itâs making him slow and numb. Or since the virus makes them aggressive and upset it pushed him past his breaking point. (Kind of the same they do go hand and hand)
Anyways hereâs a drawing of Eclipseâs scar. reference from Pinterest. I have a headcanon for this Iâll share later after I have the energy to write and draw again. Drawing on phone sucks ass
Anyways, hereâs me yapping about how I believe the blood works in the TSBS universe.
For animatronics, their blood is black, due to it being oil.
I think any type of animatronic that used to be human (Like Dazzle and Charlie), their blood would remain red.Â
For star creatures, this is where it gets difficult.
Astrals would have golden blood
Middle rank star creatures, like Nebula, would have dark blue blood.
And the lowest rank of star creatures would have light blue blood.
And it would be a common way of knowing if youâre lying about your rank. If you say youâre an astral, the person who cut something of yours. The blood will tell them if youâre lying or not.
Dark star entities would have purple blood.
Dark star creatures that werenât naturally born with dark star energy or arenât far into the process of being âevilâ would keep the color of their blood, meaning they would have a chance of possibly returning back to normal.
Things like Frank and Francis have no blood whatsoever.
ANNNNNND, IM DONE! YES, I WANTED TO YAP ABOUT BLOOD SINCE IM BORED! IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW!!
