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Okay, please don't take this for stalking (it is), but I messed up and stuff seems to have gotten lost. As for the apples in MCU: as I recall, there are golden apples of unknown origin rolling about when Thor flips the table after the coronation. (Even if I remember right, there's no way to verify the effect.) As for mentioning them in the Reunion on the Rocks, there seeed to be bigger problems, Loki survived the fall, surely he'd be fine without magical metallic fruit till they return...?

Ooh mein Schatz, how could you ever allow yourself to be brushed upon by such a vile thought! Know, young lady, that my magnificence relishes the sound of hearts all a-flutter around these nether regions of the fandom. In other words, I crave your stalking.

(That, by the way, was a poor attempt at hiding my blushing from your delicate attention and thanking you, yes, actually, for following me. A bit failed, I might add. Let us move on quickly.)

Of Apples in Asgard

So, first and foremost, a word from the ever-industrious (battle-ready, and full of ideas, and muy valiosa on the whole) and resourceful Artabria who just this to me:

I think Chris Hemsworth mentioned once that they weren’t going back to the apples. If I remember correctly (someone with the Thor DVD should check) the apples appear in Thor: they are in the table that Thor throws down. But I don’t think they make you immortal (Odin was about to retire, after all) or slow your aging. Like the Frost Giants, the Asgardians are probably just long lived. (Also, YAY! Someone else agrees with me about Loki’s magic in the MCU!)

(Note: the conversation happens after this post happened. Thought you might want to know.)

Are there really apples in Asgard? I wrote a post once about Asgardian home décor and the patterns in throne room, and it appears that either apples are a legendary fruit much rumoured, or you can eat boring, run-of-the-mill apples for when you’re a bit peckish.

Here is Odin’s bedpost (original image there) as we may find it in a deleted scene far clearer than the definitive edition:

Also consider this:

To me, it looks like the doors behind the throne are ornate with a stylised apple tree, or rather - this is Yggdrasil stylised as an apple tree.

If I were to write a fanfiction right now, I’d say that the apples are part of Asgard’s lore; as Valhalla is very probably not a real place, there may be myths and tales on Asgard about the bounties of the Asgardian way of life. Perhaps, a very long time ago, the ancestors of Odin acquired the means to prolong their life artificially, and the legends have passed on to the next generations as poetic stories about magic fruits?

Table flip!

I think there may be red apples on the left. Genuine, the apples. Biteable, I mean. Not break-your-godly-teeth-metal apples.

Oh gods. Those fruits are so made of plastic.

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Re: rotting!Loki. My headcanon is that when you toss an immortal-ish Asgardian organism into space without the protection of the Bifröst or the "hidden pathways", it actually does die. Only, being Asgardian/regularly consuming Idunn's apples, it recovers and decays at the same time, and so gets stuck in a half-Prometheus half-Death becomes her limbo. That would still not explain why only his upper teeth are affected... What do you think?

Oh dear, I am so relieved - for a terrifying minute (alright: four months), I believed myself to be the only one anguishing over the silly teeth stuff. Here, allow Nic Cage’s relieved face to speak for me:

(Why is that man so hypnotic, albeit in a very frightening way?)

All this fruit talk has unnerved me a great lot. I keep going to and fro on the topic of Magic Asgardian Apples without able to decide. As I often repeat on this Tumblog, we’re best prepared considering that until it’s been officially mentioned, everything we haven’t seen is pure speculation, even if it’s a well-known fact in the comics.

There is a series of things like this: the fact that Thor’s birth mother was actually Jörd/Gaia, the fact that everybody knew about Loki being an adopted giant, the Asgardians all being several thousands of years old… etc.

Of course, the comics are a primary source of inspiration (only Loki is a bit more shifty in MCU than his almost-complete evil comicbook self) but we should never, ever see them as gospel, as so many fanfiction writers like to do - at least when it allows them to insert more magic in their stories.

The fact that they don’t realise how much Loki’s magic was toned down in MCU is one of my biggest pet peeves - he is not the same character, at all. In fact, I am very happy about that, as I am greatly surprised by Thor’s MCU persona. My problem is, the screenwriters also have a deplorable tendency to change Loki’s powers according to what suits them most at the moment. But I digress.

Even if there are no Apples to be consumed in MCU!Asgard, I think that Loki would be spared a certain dissolving into that wormhole thing thanks to his powers - what remains to be learned is whether this is a consequence of his Asgardian physiology (by birth and/or by Odin’s putative spell) or of any enhancement permitted by his belonging to the house of Odin and being granted magical clothing, additional powers, etc. just like Thor; or, you know, if it’s his own brand of magic only that allowed him to survive.

(I think the teeth are a sad mistake on the prop’s department part; the product must have diluted and no one noticed…)

I have a question for y’all, though: if the Asgardians of MCU have their own version of Idunn’s Apples, do you think that they keep the ones who eat them alive indefinitely, or would they simply slow the ageing down? And would the usual consumers start to wither rapidly once deprived of their ration?

(I don’t think there are Apples because it would immediately make it a grave mistake on Whedon’s part at least, not to have included a line about them when Thor confronted Loki about home on that mountain.)