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I truly believe the way The Old Guard fandom pretty much died after the second film came out should be studied. Like, has there ever been such a terrible follow-up in any series, movie or television, that it killed all passion anyone had for it? Remarkable stuff.
Ladies and gentlemen, her:
Honestly, my biggest problem with the Old Guard 2 trailer is the unacceptable lack of Chewetel Ejiofor.
We’re is Copley? Where is my perfect bean? Where is my man who has never done anything wrong? This needs to be fixed, immediately.
Release the Copley cut, cowards.
Think this might be an unpopular opinion (re: Old Guard 2) but Force Multiplied left something to be desired story wise (I mean, the whole comic had a few issues that got ironed out in the first movie) and I’m not fully hating the idea of a white bad guy lady who has always sucked instead of Quynh popping out of the ocean and deciding she just kinda hates the world and that Andy owes her helping destroy it.
Noriko’s motives in the comic were pretty nonexisten. She didn’t even get Iron Maiden’s by a mob, she just fell overboard in a storm. Because of that, she disappeared for 500 years and came back with a giant chip on her shoulder.
I get the impression from the trailer that rather than making the villain a woman who was literally tortured into insanity by circumstances beyond any of the Guard’s control, the villain is someone who was handed the power of immortality and was completely corrupted by it, as power often does. I like the idea that the juxtaposition is that some people will be handed power and see it as a responsibility, and some people will be handed power and let it convince them that its just what they’re owed.
I mean, it’s Netflix so it might just be a money grubbing disaster, but I really want to have more faith in it than that.
The Old Guard 2 was announced, and once again I can’t pretend that Greg Rucka isn’t a huge fan of Rob Thurman.
Literally, my dude created a world that the Leandro’s Bros (and especially Robin Goodfellow) just fit so naturally into that it seems ridiculous that at least part of his world wasn’t inspired by hers.
Andromache the Scythian being Andromache the Queen of Troy is such a natural jumping off point from the Achilles plot line from Cal Leandros it is not a coincidence .
The ending to the old guard 2 comic was just so mid. Complaining under the cut
It's revealed that in the distant past (probably upwards of thousands of years ago) Andy was a slaveowner. This obviously pissed Nile right off. I wish Nile was allowed to have a more emotional reaction, but she basically says either you're with us or you're part of the problem. And then because Andy is too depressed to stand, Nile and the rest all leave her. That's where Noriko and her henchmen find her later.
For one thing, owning slaves is terrible. But it was literally pre-civilisation as we know it. Six thousand years ago. A crime is a crime, but Andromache states that there was no alternative to POWs captured during raids apart from mass-execution, and to be honest, I kind of agree.
For another, many of them likely bear similar crimes. Crusaders executed unarmed prisoners they couldn't afford to feed, both muslims and christians committed pogroms, arab muslims engaged in slave trade in north africa far before europeans did... I'm not saying yusuf or nicolo did any of these, but when you live a thousand years, it would also be weird to *never* have any hand in anything like that at all. Even in the modern day it's almost impossible not to financially support modern slavery through buying cheap clothes. It's a dirty world.
I wish Andy had done something in the present to alienate her team. Like, refused to rescue Booker because the time limit wasn't up, even though he was being tortured. Or to go after Noriko herself even though the others don't trust her an inch. Andromache was very depressed and apathetic in this comic, but she's a very proactive character and I think if the loneliness started to eat at her she's more likely to be self destructive than withdrawn.
Noriko's motivations make no sense. She was killed over and over by the impassive sea, so she's decided she needs to punish humanity. Humanity had no role in your deaths??
Maybe it would have been too similar to the first book's villain, but said something like "We immortals cannot die from illness or old age. Therefore, we are destined for thousands of violent deaths. We are demons put on this earth to wage eternal war. If we want peace, we need to remove ourselves."
And then the thematic discussion would be: can a soldier be a force for good, or is any form of violence immoral? They've killed a lot of people for one "justified" cause or another. And they've been wrong before.
It would also make sense for Noriko -- she was an assassin, and now that shes "reformed", all she's really done is swap one victim for another.
But really, the pacing scuppered the book. Volumes of comics are always around 5 issues, and the author wasted about 3 full issues on vague set-up and hinting at Noriko as a major threat when really she's just anti-Andy, so the idea that she can end all 5 of them on her own is a bit silley.
The Old Guard: book two, Force Multiplied by Greg Rucka, Leandro Fernandez, Daniela Miwa, Jodi Wynne
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