so we know fat copia is always on our minds.....tell me what u think about a fat terzo 👀🙏🏼
Rigatoni my friend you had no way of knowing what this post was gonna turn into, and I thank you for it.
To briefly answer your actual question before I devolve: Fat Terzo? BARK BARK BARK AWOOGA AWOOGA OM NOM NOM. That's what I think
Though what happened is my brain started spinning out my headcanons for all the Papas' physical builds, relationship to food and their bodies, etc.
So gentle warning to any readers who might have a problem with those topics especially since I headcanon at least one case of disordered eating/body dysmorphia.
Further warning - don't come here telling me that fat is bad/unhealthy/etc. I am a giant fatass irl - I know the consequences of my own body shape and I'm not here to be shamed. You know where the door is. *rent lowering gunshots*
And yes. They're all played by Tobias Forge. So they're all Tobias Forge Shaped. shhhhhh. No. *gently places a finger on your lip* nooooo. We are here to talk about fictional characters my friends. Tobbibble Fribble has no place here save as a starting point. Also I'm not here to shame or disagree with anyone else's headcanons about Papa builds. You're all valid.
Without further ado, the Thonks:
Primo: Is the only one of the core five Papas who I can't imagine fat under any circumstance. My headcanon for his build is withered, like a corpse or a tree branch. Sure, he eats, often to excess, it is important to him to indulge in all seven sins and that includes gluttony. But the fires of hell burn inside this man and metabolizes it all out into rage, music, Satan, and (if you enjoy the fanon) gardening.
Secondo: Burly. I feel like he's TALL. He has a Presence. I could see him being either fat or muscle plus fat - his deal is he fills a room. What mass he fills that with is up to your imagination. He DEFINITELY has a belly. I feel like a fat Secondo would have the same vibes as the music video for the Rammstein song Keine Lust - a song about all of life's pleasures failing to pierce through a choking veil of apathy - in the MV the band are all wearing fat suits while exhaustedly doing rock star behavior. It's a song that pops into my head a lot when I'm in my Angst Secondo feels instead of my Fun Secondo feels. He would carry the extra weight like a burden - not because of anything inherently wrong with being fat but because he carries everything like either a burden or a joke unless it is himself, which he carries with dignity.
Terzo: Here's your content warning for disordered eating and body dysmorphia. Skip ahead to Cardi if you don't wanna hear it. I think young Terzo was chubby. Young Terzo indulged in all things - wine women and song yes but also men and people of other genders and food and sloth and all the pleasures he could. His days as a cardinal of burning ambition balanced by wild nights. His hard work balanced out with indulgent meals. Necropolitus writes about the two of them going to town on cream puffs for fuck's sake. BUT. I feel like that went away when he found out he was about to be Papa. I think he kicked his own ass to get lean and trim and fit into that beautiful King of Sweden suit. I think he started staying up late not for bacchanals but to work himself to shreds. I think he stopped eating save for a periodic bite where he could. I think he was well on his way to work himself to death long before Sister Imperator and her ghouls finished the job. Falling on stage all the time? Man had low blood sugar. He was wasting away.
NOW on a happier note in a universe where the Red Uno Game never happened my vision of Retirement Terzo has him gain all the weight back and then some, lounging on a beach somewhere looking resplendent with an apron belly over his swim trunks, finally relaxed and full of cannoli and kolackzi. Man deserves it
Cardi: Is a journey of weight gain in my mind. Cardinal Copia is lean. He's hungry, but he sates that hunger with ambition. He is not just hungry, he's STARVING. For love, for acclaim, to be at the top of the ministry, for validation, for comfort, for safety. And he will do whatever it fucking takes. So before his stage career, he often forgets to eat - he's just so damn distracted toiling away at his job. Also ballet keeps you thin. Once he gets the word that he's going to be on stage, he relaxes - a hair. He is free to indulge. After all, he's leading the Ghost project? Doesn't he deserve it? He starts getting seconds, having dessert, gains the Thighs we all know and love from those painted-on pants and a tiny pot belly. Still, noodle arms. Man hasn't lifted a damn thing in his life without asking his ghouls to do it for him.
I also feel like he gets his fair share of bullying from Nihil about not being Man Enough - I remember seeing a quote in an interview from this era that hinted as much. So that held him back a lot from all sorts of relaxing and indulging, not just about food - he probably fucked a lot in this era because unlike sloth and gluttony and vanity, lust and wrath are Manly urges. But once Nihil is dead and Cardi is Papa? He is at the top of the mountain and he FEASTS. I imagine rapid weight gain in the Popia era. We saw him pound back a can of whipped cream because he was nervous in Rite Here Rite Now - and starts experiencing both profound victory and excruciating existential dread. He's gonna reach an unprecedented level of jiggle.
I feel like the stress leading up to the RHRN show and the early days as Frater would take some of the weight off but then put it right back on as he settles into the job. Frater Imperator fits beautifully into that suit but it's tailored to suit his frame - which is now proudly decorated with stretch marks and love handles and jowls. His weight is like that of a mafia don - a man who is large because the indulgences of wealth and power allow him to be. A man whose shape conveys his rulership.
Perpetua: I sometimes get out of hand with my Creechur headcanons for Perpetua given that he's Cardi's twin and Cardi is literally just a guy but like. Come on. Look at that thing. That swamp gremlin. That Entity. That sleep paralysis demon. He's adorable and he's terrifying and that's gonna be reflected in my imagining for his build. Now can I see Perpetua as fat? Yes, but only in two circumstances - post-Papa career Regular Guy Perpetua settling into Dad Bod territory. Or. In Eldritch Horror Amorphous Blob ways.
BUT. To be honest I do see him as thin. But not skinny like a human. Spindly like a spider. Like a slenderman. Like a lovecraftian illustration where the limbs are all way too long and the fingers could play piano from two feet away from the keys. Like he's a Regular Guy but then also so tall he has to hunch. Jack Skellington motherfucker. Cryptid. Creechur. But more than that, I really love him and Cardi as complimentary opposites - the sun and the moon, I'll be the shadow you be the light etc. So a plump Cardi next to a spooky scary skeleton Perpetua is just. Poetry.
Hiiii trans perpetua high after a party and getting off? <3
Always love writing some trans Perpetua. I think he has some impressive bottom growth, which is, of course, ribbed for your pleasure.
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one thing about a Satanic ministry- the parties were legendary. every ritual ended in an orgy, of course, because how else best to make an offering to the devil except with your entire body?
Perpetua knew this. he knew, even as he threw open the door to his chambers and fell upon his bed like a deranged man, that inches from his door there were dozens of people who would fall to their knees and worship him the second he gave the word.
but none of them appealed to him in that moment like his own hand, his own touch. with the world pleasantly hazy around him, Perpetua set about stripping off the vestments of his rank, tossing clothes aside in a frenzy.
for a moment, he cursed just how many he was expected to wear- but, he was reminded, they were the symbols of his rank. the symbols of just how far that little kid from the orphanage had come.
and he could never truly hate them, even if they were in his way right then.
Perpetua shifts around on his blankets, trying to find a comfortable position to sit in against his headboard, a large, oak, gothic thing with swooping lines and faux arched windows. he has this odd sense that everything is right with the world as he looks around his bedroom-
as though his brother hating him was a temporary inconvenience. as though the parents he never knew dying before he had the chance to meet them couldn’t trouble him anymore. as though his past as the little orphan girl who no one wanted had all but disappeared.
because through those doors were people who wanted him more than they wanted anything else. to be near him, to feel his touch, to hang on his every word…
he’d found himself, in the papacy. and he wouldn’t give it up for anything.
wouldn’t give up the hands now sliding down his body for anything either. they press at the places he knows he’s sensitive, hands kneading at his nipples, the sensation there saved through the tireless work of his top surgeon. he’s thankful for that now, biting his lip as he teases and plays with himself just how he knows he likes.
but he can’t spend long there, the siren song of the heat between his legs calling out to him with every pleasurable pinch and twist.
one hand snakes down to dip into the wetness of his cunt, sliding easily through his lips, before finding the ribbed t-cock at the top of his folds. Perpetua holds back a gasp as his fingers stroke around it, coaxing it from its hood and to it’s proud few inches.
testosterone had truly done wonders for him.
the hand playing with his nipples shifts, rising to his mouth so that he can bite into the meat of his palm as he begins to stroke, using his own natural slick as lubrication.
there may have been dozens of people out there who wanted to do this for him, but sometimes you just needed your own hand.
Yesss omg so many, but with ghost specifically it’s gotta be @lilspacewolfie @anamelessfool and @honey-and-flies I love their work smmm, both cuz their smut is so emotional and hard hitting but also their world building, characterization, and their prose are off the charts
6. What element of writing do you find comes most easily?
Honestly probably silly moments. I love having characters banter with each other, and I love adding humorous little quips :3 those moments come quite easily for me and I hope other ppl find them funny too :3
19. Do you prefer canon compliant, AUs, or something in-between?
I think it depends on the fandom. With Sonic I loveee writing and reading AUs, but with ghost I’ve only written canon-compliant. I do wanna try writing an AU someday for ghost but it wouldn’t be until I finish my current monstrosity of a multi chapter fic lol
1. What fic of yours would you recommend to someone who had never read any of your work? (In other words, what do you think is the best introduction to your fics?)
O thats hard, uh.... I have a lot of people follow me through fandoms cause they just like what I Write or how I write it, but im REALLY not sure what fic would be a great like... 'THIS is COILEDDRAGON'
It also depends like. How CHILL this hypothetical stranger is. I write a lot of problematic content, everything from incest to rape to underage characters to snuff and gore... Im overthinking and cant pick one im sorry dfGSfshfg
4. What detail in [insert fic] are you really proud of?
You didn't specify a fic, friend! But I will always take a chance to say how proud of Lamb I am for the poetic prose I put into it...
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7. Any worldbuilding you’re particularly proud of?
Another tough one tbh... I don't really know if I have a fic that shows off worldbuilding I am particularly proud of, but I guess 'I Am The Antichrist To You' is a decent one, even if I DID lean into the angle of Hellraiser that I generally Dislike (playing on the angle of the Cenobites are from actual Biblical Hell and as such Biblical Heaven exists etc etc)
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10. How do you decide what to write?
The SPIRIT of whatever my obsession at the time is TAKES OVER ME and sometimes I black out and hit a horny fugue state, write for two hours, and then fall over as I stand up because I have neglected EVERY single other human function in those 2 hours.
But yeah usually I just. An idea has to nag me and not leave me alone. Sometimes I can coax an idea *I* want to write into being in focus, but its harder and takes more work that I need to practice at ahaha I have SO many WIPs right now and I REALLY wanna finish them and share all these ideas with yall but like. Sometimes I feel so not in control of that! (And lately ive been in a spot of stress and anxiety over life stuff after a huge move this spring so its been harder to get into my writing aaa)
Okay so Cardi is def gonna need some PT once he's out of the opital. Which ghoul(s) are gonna take on the task of helping him with stretches and muscle massaging? Someones prob gonna start fondling his big belly in the process
ohhh beautiful thoughts..
Aether for sure is all over helping him. That's his guy after all. Cumulus I also think could help with PT, going real slow with the exercises so Copia doesn't hurt himself. Swiss is doing less of the help with exercises and stretches, and more of the muscle massaging. I KNOW his claws keep going down to Copia's belly the most :P
FAT COPIA/CICI. do you think he matches certain snacks with video games? Would are cici's fav games :3
ohhh that could be cute.. cheez its for faster paced games, snack cakes for slower ones..
Cici's favorite game ummm..
Well, there's Peggle which is like. Her go to but I'm not sure if that's her favorite... mmm I think she's a Mario RPG girlie. Something silly she can have sweets with :)
