#fucking vegans

[skiplo-wave]

THIS EXACT BULLSHIT I'M TALKING ABOUT

[perfectly-princely-emo-nightmare]

I just saw a sign that said “If we educated ourselves we’d all be vegan.”

No. No we really wouldn’t.

My mom is a doctor. She eats meat.

My dad studies and teaches advanced physics. He eats meat.

I’m studying fucking astrophysics. I EAT MEAT.

Stop looking down on people because they don’t want to conform to your uninformed world view you stupid Peta sympathizer.

[felis-lynx-felis]

The worst type of vegans are the self-righteous twats that force feed 'vegan pet food' to their dogs and cats.

Get your heads out of your arses and stop nutritionally abusing your animals!

[thetigerisariver]

Lol so there's a situation in ČR where a vegan kindergarten teacher is being fired because when kids asked her why she doesn't eat meat she said "I love animals"

Like on one level the labour rights violation happening here is astounding and bizarre

But on the other hand, like, watching vegans handwring about how that response is not manipulative is really funny. It's like, if you consume enough vegan propaganda you can't even tell it's manipulative by the end igs? Like positing "loving animals" = "not eating meat" like fucking obviously implies "eating meat" = "not loving animals" in a way even a kindergarten student can understand lol

And when it comes from a position of authority? Yeah, I absolutely think she fucked up, I just don't think she should be fired for it.

Still it's something watching vegans saying "it's objectively true" like there's no other way to have positive relationship to animals than to be an insufferable little bitch

[thetigerisariver]

When I was younger I wanted to do things, like activist things, and had a really hard time figuring out how and what they should be? Arguably, this was consequence of my particularly sheltered or like privileged upbringing igs, but I would also argue that the tradition of activism just wasn't there - I was connected to traditions of like, cultural dissent (my dad is a playwright and in communist Czechoslovakia volunteer theater was a hotbed of cultural dissent) but they just didn't make that much sense to me (I don't want to say it's because we are a democracy now, at least because calling 90s Slovakia like, a democracy seems a little presumptuous), it just really wasn't my thing

The first places I found and joined were animal rights groups and hooo boy, they honestly destroyed my interest in this stuff for years while completely muddling my understanding of social change. My experience with groups like this is honestly that they are individualistic beyond belief, badly organized and ineffective and are just. Bad environment for teens honestly! They skew pretty young (like majority-college-kids young) and have high rates of douchebags which honestly I feel like I should have been protected from at the age of fourteen or whatever.

Anyway, this also makes me think about how our org should work to support baby activists. We have several kids who are interested and I wonder what systems we should have in place to nurture and support them and make sure they are as safe as we can make them? Idk. Something something.

[thetigerisariver]

"I am confused about people who support my veganism, and never say shitty things to me about it, yet still eat meat and eggs and dairy, seems hypocritical" Sorry about trying to not be rude to you about your food thing, I'll rethink this approach in future, lol

[thetigerisariver]

My non-vegan diet is already not easy, so forgive me if I doubt that the vegan version would be somehow magically easy

[thetigerisariver]

There are vegans who honestly think the world would be a better place if they triggered my eating disorder into full gear again. Several had said so in my inbox, and many many behaved implicitly all over the social media. It's a dumb fad diet and I hope it will fade into obscurity just like those creepy juicer body builders that sometimes pop up on my Facebook. *Not* sorry.