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At this point, I'm still hoping they're just showing gabi thru lestat's perception. But Jennifer's comment in the screenshot is truly mystifying me.

I hadn't, anon! Thank you for the link! And mm, I think I get what she's saying? Especially after watching her interview with Autumn (I hadn't seen many interviews with Jennifer before, and she's kind of a funny one in a lot of ways)?

It's not that who Gabrielle is as a character isn't important, but in terms of the story that's currently being told, how she functions in the narrative is that she's a catalyst Lestat's responding to. Who she is matters, of course it matters, but the season isn't about her, it's about how Lestat responds to her, and that's compounded by the fact that Lestat, as a character himself, doesn't really understand her, which is a pretty key underpinning of their dynamic and already featured pretty pointedly, in my opinion, in 3.02.

Gabrielle withholds herself from him, from everyone, her interiority is hers alone, and a huge part of that manifests in the way that she both neglects him and takes possession of him. It makes sense to me that in a season that's centred on who Lestat truly is beyond other characters' perceptions of him that we'd also be put in a position as an audience to have to deal with how he perceives others, and I can see a pretty big part of that in being all the ways she's unknowable to him. They can really commit to that for this season too creatively because Gabrielle's not a character with a death sentence like Louis' family was or the TdV vampires or even Claudia. They've got time, and they've all talked now about this season as the first part of a longer journey for her character.

So yeah, I think that's probably what she means, especially given some of the other things she talked about in her interview with Autumn.

#a few things she said in that interview with autumn too did make it seem to me like some things do shift later in the season #but we'll see #that article wasn't well-written generally though #and for the record i don't think gabi actually understands lestat either #which we saw in that ep too #or well #i think they understand parts of each other #but just #never enough #vampire promo asks #gabrielle asks #jennifer asks

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I'm walking into traffic, anon.

#but honestly this is gutting but also so THEM #this episode did allay some of my worries about how they're handling gabrielle and lestat's dynamic #just her utter distance and unwillingness to close it unless lestat's really broken #like that's them!#i've been thinking a bit too recently about how she won't pay for him to escape until she's dying #except for the monastery school for him to get an education as a little boy #which is in 1.01 so should be adapted here too #and i've never considered it as a final breaking moment for her before but now i kind of wonder if it could be #given it's the only time she truly fights for him to get out of the chateau without her following him #only for him to be beaten and broken and brought back to her that way #especially given the monastery school is something she actually cared about in that they would teach him to read in a way she wouldn't #or couldn't emotionally depending on how you read it #(which doesn't make it not abuse - it still is of course - but there's a different emotional interiority there for gabi imo)#what schism happens there #when you know there's no way out for either of you #how does it shift a dynamic even between a parent and child #how does it shift her relationship to him as both proxy and key to a world beyond their abuser?#as she increasingly becomes another abuser too #really interesting to think about!#gabrielle asks #lestat asks #tvl spoilers #tvl 3.01 #lioncest asks #cw incest #cw abuse

I've been turning around in my head the whole Gabriella being a fan of the great conversion thing (such and so looks like a great candidate) and the "I see why you gave him a daughter" remark combined with Jennifer Ehle suggesting in the interview with Autumn that she wants something from Lestat. Think there's a possibility she's trying to get him to make more vampires because she doesn't want to herself?

I've been wondering that a bit too, anon, especially given the line in the show about her having a midwife nick her in the uterus so that she couldn't have any more children, which pairs pretty neatly too with her not making any fledglings. It'd be really interesting to play with that dynamic of her seeing Lestat as a vehicle for children as she herself chooses to lock the door on that particular part of her life and body, and funnily enough kind of echoes what a few of us were talking about in the hiatus of those sibling dynamics as the heir (Augustin), the spare (Gregoire) and the (breeding) mare in Lestat.

#it could speak a bit to their gendered enmeshment in some ways too #super interesting!#i watched the autumn interview with jen on the train this morning #which was also pretty fascinating #gabrielle asks #tvl spoilers #kind of?#lestat asks #tvl speculation

lol I interpreted gabijarda scene as her purposefully being as loud as possible to disturb Lestat. She wanted to punish him for placing boundaries she's not satisfied with and not talking with Daniel about topics she's interested in. In ep1 during sex montage there was a shot of Gabriella fucking some guy.

Considering it's Lestat's pov there's a chance he saw her having sex which can be extremely traumatizing, especially if he was a child (we don't know yet what that shot was).

Adding to it element of Magnus and Lestat lookalikes, it creates very disturbing picture for Lestat.

AND it was interesting that she did while looking at mirror, which ties into Gabriella projecting onto Lestat her identity, wants and needs.

She wants to be fucked by her Ideal version, but ideal version refuses, so she picks closest thing to it, and because Jarda isn't as satisfying she punishes Lestat for rejecting her, by purposefully making him uncomfortable or maybe trying to make him jealous

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I don't necessarily disagree, anon, and I definitely think a part of what you've described is what's going on in terms of Gabi's projections and her desire here to punish and control, and look, I very well could be wrong, but just personally, I felt looking at her emotional arc over that sequence was extremely complex? Between her bouncing between Lestat, the Great Conversion, Daniel, Jarda, Lestat's youth, the witches burning, Nicki and Armand, with, again, Lestat as product of her own violation who she canonically struggles to be around, I do actually see her acting out as more complicated than purely a response to Lestat?

This show is and always has been deeply interested in the way sexual trauma shapes character, and personally I think I saw that in this episode with Gabrielle in a way that incorporates some of what you're saying, but is also just - - her deflecting, as much as him, as both abuser herself and victim herself. Again, could be wrong, but I think this really spoke to the way Lestat's been raised to understand sexual violence, by someone who's both a recipient and a perpetrator of it.

#i just watched it again and i fear i am doubling down on this take #sorry everyone haha #she's not dealt with a single thing here which is a nightmare when he's trying to cope with her son #who she's abused #who is the only person on the planet she loves who also *is* trying to deal with a single thing #just an absolute nightmare situation for everyone involved #tvl 3.03 #tvl spoilers #cw incest #gabrielle asks

i just watched it.

That was incredible.

The scene where Gabriella walks in and that small monologue. That was one of the most gutting things I've ever seen. Sam's face. What he can do with his face.

Yesssss, I'm so glad you enjoyed it too, anon, and god, that last scene with Lestat and Gabriella. Just the layers of emotion that Sam imbues in that sequence is genuinely pretty astonishing, and his stutter returning on her name - - I can't. The regression to childhood, to something small and mortal and in the palm of her hand. I've been so turning over the fact that the earlier glimpse of Lestat over the toilet has him explicitly saying the people in the room next door are having transactional sex, and you hear them still as Gabi arrives, and god just - - all the terrible implications of that as he begs her for an ounce of what's not even affection, but just presence. There's just so many layers to it that I know are only going to peel back further over the season.

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the gabrielle of later books still isnt this though she comes to wrangle les out of his depressive funk cus their all at threat of death but she doesnt want to posses or use him and that's the stuff they keep emphasizing

I can't comment on the last books as I haven't read them, but her sense of ownership of his body is, in my reading, a major part of The Vampire Lestat, and deeply informs their dynamic up until they part ways. I also always find the fact that she waits until she's dying to pay his way to Paris to be a very loaded beat in terms of how she ultimately does, at least in part, hold a key to the cage for him.

#i do think the latter's complicated #especially given she paid for the monastery too only for lestat to be brought back to her broken #but there's also a lot to be read into imo about when she chooses to do that again #gabrielle asks #lestat asks

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Wow, that's quite a conversation. I wonder if we'll hear any of this, or anything like it, in the show.

Yes!! I haven't watched Autumn's interview with Jennifer yet (I watched a very depressing movie tonight instead, haha), but my ears pricked up hearing Gabriella speak a little to the Great Conversion in 3.02 based off of this part of the book! Super, super curious as to what the show does with that, especially given I think the show's going to play around with Akasha and Gabrielle as occupying a similar space in Lestat's life / emotional landscape too.

#it's going to be *super* fascinating to see #tvl speculation #tvl spoilers #gabrielle asks

Considering it's Lestat's pov there's a chance he saw her having sex which can be extremely traumatizing, especially if he was a child (we don't know yet what that shot was).

Adding to it element of Magnus and Lestat lookalikes, it creates very disturbing picture for Lestat.

AND it was interesting that she did while looking at mirror, which ties into Gabriella projecting onto Lestat her identity, wants and needs.

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