#great dragon

[vibrantjunglecat]

Something I noticed is that Nora is usually the colors of the Great Dragon

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Merlin: *arriving to Camelot or some battle with Kilgarrah*

Leon: is that the Great Dragon Arthur killed? Because you pronounced me dead last time that thing was around. Almost buried me before realizing I still had a faint heartbeat.

Merlin:

Merlin: yeah… about that…

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A shitty idea I had some days ago

[cocogum]

The Eliatrope Goddess is flawed.

It's unbelievably strange to know that after all these years, it turns out that the Eliatrope Goddess was not this perfect pure being who could do no wrong to anyone.

Like when I say all these years, I mean since CHILDHOOD. But I am not at all peeved or disappointed that she did not end up being how I imagined her to be. On the contrary, I'm pretty fine with how she came out. In fact, I believe seeing her this way makes her look even more intriguing to look at.

Which gives me so much to think about, just so I can get confused and annoyed by my own questions revolving around this woman.

Because OH MY GOD there is so much to unpack after what we've seen from her in Season 4.

And I have to admit that this entire discussion topic couldn't have been a reality if it wasn't for episode 10 where Efrim had possessed Nora and practically talked TRASH about his own mom IN FRONT OF HIS MOM.

Like that stasis stuff really made him go all out on her, calling her a garbage mother and comparing her to food.

But one specific thing that he said never left my mind, and that was when he called her "selfish."

Selfish?? Okay, yeah there's a lot of layers to get into.

I knew Efrim didn't just say that to be a dick about it or whatever. He really meant it because the stasis inside him was bringing the worst out of him. It didn't turn him into a mindless zombie like Toross's people turned into. Since he's a dragon, it only made him unable to feel anything else besides hunger and keep his darkest, deepest turmoils. That's why we saw him speak to his own mother in such a personal matter. Nora once said that Efrim held a deeper connection to his mother than anyone out of their siblings. And we saw Efrim say the same thing to the Eliatrope Goddess when he confronted her in Nora's body.

We knew he was telling the truth, we knew that he had a deep connection to her, and here he was describing himself perfectly in such a cool, collected manner.

Throughout his entire speech to the Eliatrope Goddess, he was pouring out his negative feelings about her.

All of the parts that felt doubt, anger, and betrayal for her. And because he's a dragon, he was able to fully articulate these feelings to his mother since his body was capable of containing stasis but unable to free himself from Toross's power.

So let's bring out everything that we do know about the Eliatrope goddess to see if any of it perfectly reflects Efrim's speech about her selfishness.

1. Her relationship with the Great Dragon.

Our first point isn’t directly related to anything Efrim discussed or mentioned during his confrontation with his mother, but it’s worth talking about. I chose to bring up the topic of the Eliatrope goddess's lover first because he played a significant role in helping her create the eliatrope race and the dragons. Therefore, this point came first for pertaining to the origins of Efrim and his siblings' births.

Just her relationship alone with this guy is enough to make her look weirdly suspicious. I did this conversation about her relationship with the Great Dragon a while ago right here and let me tell you, it is COMPLETELY overcomplicated for no reason at all.

But it does convey the first seeds of doubts surrounding this woman.

2. Her relationships with her children.

The second point that we're moving onto, finally has something to do with what Efrim was spewing about.

The mentioned selfishness she supposedly has.

There is no doubt in everyone's minds about this. The Eliatrope goddess has clear favoritism for specific children of her own. She does not say it, but it is heavily implied by her actions and mannerisms.

From what we've seen, the Eliatrope goddess, also known as the goddess of love and creation, clearly only cares about her eliatrope children BECAUSE they're eliatropes.

Anything else that she's created doesn't count as her children because they're not eliatropes like herself. We can see this being the case due to the many instances where she has only been seen talking about eliatropes, focusing her entire attention on them, and only worrying about them.

This means that her other children like Efrim and Adamaï, dragons, are cast to the side and not being mentioned at all by her.

For example, when she reunites with Yugo and Adamaï, she declares she wants to speak to BOTH of her sons, which is why she makes their friends leave first so they could privately talk.

But just when she does end up finding herself alone with them, she only looks eager to reconnect with Yugo, while completely ignoring Adamaï.

The only time she does entirely focus on Adamaï without mentioning Yugo is when she makes a comment about how she's never seen this current form of his before. That's it.

*tiny rant here cuz who the hell calls their own kid special in this way because of how they look?? if i was his mom, i would've said how cool it was that he could take different forms in different lives and that he should feel pretty good about it.*

After their brief exchange, she focuses right back on Yugo, sounding as if she has a lot more to say about him than the former.

Even when Adamaï expresses his desire to distance himself and search for the Eliatrope Dofus, their mother does not stop him. Despite not having seen him for a millennium, she seems intent on keeping Yugo around while letting Adamaï leave.

It's very off-putting to see that Yugo looks like he misses Adamaï more than their own mother, considering the fact that Yugo hasn't seen him for a few years, while the Eliatrope goddess hasn't seen either of them for millions of years. She cried when she saw them come back to her, and yet didn't look the slightest bit disappointed when Adamaï left. Because, just like Yugo said: "We barely had time to see each other."

The second example is Efrim himself.

When Nora attempts to talk to the Eliatrope goddess about her bad habit of constantly running away from the necromes, her mother reminds her of what happened to her brother and expresses her hope that the same fate does not befall Nora.

Although the Eliatrope goddess did not want Efrim to become a necrome, she seemed more concerned about herself than about her son's condition. She also only begins discussing him because Nora brings him up.

Adamai and Efrim are only two of her dragon children to have been seen around her, and yet, they had often been overlooked. They have been largely ignored and mentioned only occasionally, usually when they demanded the attention. This was evident when Efrim possessed Nora to make his presence known and confronted their mother.

3. Her behavior around other lifeforms.

You know for someone who's widely known as the embodiment of love and creation, the Great Goddess really doesn't seem to care about what happens to a fully functional planet capable of life that is at risk of getting annihilated by her opposite force. She only seems to care about healthy planets that are free of danger just to put her children in them.

The problem here is that she's supposed to defend the very life she created, but instead runs away from it if it doesn't seem to be useful to her anymore.

Now yes, her trauma regarding the necromes did play a huge role in the reason why she fled with her remaining children. She was completely justified in freaking out when she saw them, and we cannot blame her for that.

But when you even have Qilby disagreeing with her, you know that her idea for abandoning the planet is the wrong choice to make.

Despite how her children are right for letting her know that the necromes will follow her forever, she barely lends an ear to them and keeps worrying about the consequences. Again, her reasoning is understandable, given what she's gone through. But when we remember the way she almost snapped at the queen of Bonta before learning that the necromes were coming, we start to wonder if her demeanor may have some holes in them. Because what makes us think that she won't easily lose her composure at the mere sight of one inconvenience? Maybe she's always been this way, reacting to the slightest problem and running away.

Her abandonment habit may have always been a common trait of hers when we look back at her past.

4. Her relationships with the other gods.

An observation many have noticed would be the specific way she would behave around the other gods.

The only instances where we've seen her with them were in the flashback explaining how she was delivered to Toross, which resulted in her imprisonment for millions of years. This may have been a brief flashback with no real dialogue, but it conveyed a great deal in just a few minutes without needing to explain it to us with words.

First of all, we can see from this shot that the Eliatrope goddess is seen to stand all alone.

The other gods are conversing with one another and even playing with each other. But the Eliatrope goddess is doing neither, preferring to stand aside, her position in the group locking in the center. This scene tells us that she does not have a specific god she spends time with or even stays with any of them at all.

She understands the rules and agreements that her godly equals have made up so that none of them get to abolish their limits. She also understood that she, just like the others, isn't allowed to dedicate one entire planet just for their own creations.

And yet, the Eliatrope goddess did just that.

As if she weren't already keeping her distance from the others, she alienated herself even further by leaving them for a while and meeting up with the Great Dragon to break one of their most common rules.

And for what? Just so she could have children of her own.

While that may be a wholesome and sweet reason, it doesn't change the fact that she knew what she was doing was off-limits. She knew that there would be dire consequences to her actions. She knew that there was no going back from this.

And she still did it without considering what this would mean for her status.

Even when she was cornered, she did not fight back. Her unwillingness to fight makes sense considering that she is supposed to be the goddess of creation, she is not suited to fight. However, given how she behaves and how she treats her children, she might as well have broken that one common rule with the Great Dragon because she does whatever she wants. And does not accept the consequences.

This would explain why she easily broke that rule, why she ran away from the other gods, and why she does not try to fight back even when she could try despite her status. Nothing said she couldn't try but she didn't do it anyway.

So in conclusion, the Eliatrope goddess can be summarized into five different points:

1) Her relationship with her lover remains theoretical regardless of whether we know who he is or not.

2) She has clear favoritism in the family she created. She seems to pour most of her attention on her eliatrope children than her dragon ones. There is an imbalance where there shouldn't be.

3) Despite owning the title of the goddess of love and creation, she does not think twice about leaving damaged grounds and would rather find a newer place to settle down rather than try to improve the old grounds. She does not express the need to care even when she is unable to do anything.

4) Her way of thinking differs from the twelvian gods. She created eliatropes out of love to have children, while the other gods aimed to elevate their status and powers. She also made her own demigods out of love, unlike the other gods who did so out of curiosity, accident, or to fulfill tasks. However, her love is twisted, obsessive, and selfish, as she prioritizes her children over everything, the universe, and even between her demigod children at times.

5) She doesn't accept the idea to be on the same level as the other gods despite how she's required to.

The Eliatrope goddess is flawed for being a living contradiction to what she is supposed to be. And I believe that with everything we've seen, that was intentional.

[blacktiger666]

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@cocogum @ebonysable

You might like those litllle piece from the mmo wakfu

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Square Enix Metallic Monsters Gallery Great Dragon

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I'm very interested in more lore about Lian & Jay👀. U mention that Lian is the reincarnation of Eliatrope Goddess while Jay is the reincarnation of Great Dragon. Did Eliatrope Goddess & Great Dragon die in ur AU or is it passed down to their grandchildren to have their power?

Well, that's interesting, i know to lian and jay is a reincarnation of eliatrope goddess and the great dragon who they giving for them power wakfu and stasis, but you saying eliatrope goddess and the great dragon is dead, is not,

In krosmoz universe all gods can't dies anything, because the famous gods of twelve never dies and they are immortals but they have weaks called don't belives, the powers of gods is losing because one people hate gods and don't believe everything like famous country SUFOKIA, the one city of world of twelve who don't believes gods and demons only great sufokian technology

The one question is reincarnation of gods of twelve, yep, krosmoz have a reincarnation and demigods in wakfu and dofus, also the reincarnation and demigods to brotherhood of forgotten, daily is a also reincarnation of god iop if you see in wakfu ova, well, is you know this question about my yumalia fankid is a reincarnation of eliatrope goddess and the great dragon in my au or I'm calling neo's lore