#highly complex answers

[hc-did-culture-is]

does programming always result in a did system being formed? or is it possible for someone to have osdd or even be a singlet and be programmed?

this is a bit complicated to answer, since the answer depends on what you count as a system. obligatory psa - this is based on our research but we're not a professional so take it with a grain of salt.

to the best of my knowledge children that are programmed always end up with a system disorder, since the aim of programming is to create dissociative barriers. did is the aim, but osdd/p-did are both possible results if the programming doesn't take well.

but adults can be programmed as well, it's not exclusively used on children. when adults are programmed they end up with osdd-2, which has programmed responses, cues, trances, etc. some people view osdd-2 as a system disorder, some do not, so it's a little up in the air.

of course, if the programming is unsuccessful/fails, then anything could happen, but i'm assuming you were asking about successful programs.

[hc-did-culture-is]

This is gonna sound dumb but what are scripts exactly? We haven't found anything about them in any of our research

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Script is piece of external media used to structure some part of the system (eg alters/alter roles, innerworld, hierarchy/structure, etc).

So basically the abuser picks a piece of media that has themes/story elements/characters that they want to add to the system, and then they give the victim that media whilst torture/forced dissociation is underway. So the media becomes part of a program. Scripts will often cause introjects to form, who can then be programmed in keeping with the needs of the abuser. The script may also lead to certain story locations being formed as part of the IW, typically ones where important events happen in the story. Those locations will also be tied to programming.

[hc-did-culture-is]

hey, do you have any resources on healing from programming? I’m desperate at this point.

sorry I know this isn’t for this. I just need help.

no need to apologise, it's alright.

@/granulesofsand here on tumblr has some really good stuff, but it can take a bit of scrolling to find.

we've also heard good things about the book 'Becoming Yourself' by Alison Miller.

Hope this is at least slightly useful.

[hc-did-culture-is]

Questioning HC-DID system here.

Is it possible for someone who's already a victim of programming/ramcoa to experience more programming from other alters? i.e abuser introjects or malicitors "continuing the job". We have several more powerful alters that forcibly create others, and i was not sure if this was possible/common

Also, how do you figure out what each programs triggers are? we have several alters that closely fit the programming type(?), but the only 'trigger' I'm aware of so far is whenever we're asked to give our own personal opinions on anything spiritual related

Thank you!

- 🧠 hemlock

yes, it's pretty common to have alters split off and instructed to reinforce/control programming.

we personally use two terms: internal handlers and internal programmers. Internal Handlers may be put in charge of managing other programmed alters, or activating/deactivating certain programs. Internal Programmers have more power (in our experience) and are responsible for keeping programs running. They may hand out punishments and rewards, or instruct others to do so. They may be able to activate split programs, and add/edit/remove programs from alters.

Alters cannot create or destroy programs that impact the body or create entirely new programs. They also can't can't destroy programs without deprogramming, regardless of role.

As for identifying triggers, we're not entirely sure. The way we do it is... Extremely Hard to explain, and not something we've seen anywhere else so I doubt it would help even if we could explain it.

Maybe someone will respond to this with a better answer?

[hc-did-culture-is]

sorry if this seems like a strange-ish question, but i cant find consistent answers anywhere and it's been a bit confusing

are all ramcoa systems programmed? or is it that all programmed systems are ramcoa, both, etc.

i've been trying to do so much research, but all my sources are leading to strange / contradicting answers

All programmed systems are RAMCOA survivors, but not all RAMCOA survivors are programmed systems.

We+ can go more into this if you'd like, but that's the basic answer.

[hc-did-culture-is]

Not HC-DID Culture is // Can failed programming systems still suggests asks?

Yep! If you're dealing with programming, even if its incomplete/failed, you're welcome to send in asks!

[hc-did-culture-is]

Not a culture ask, but are people with incomplete programming aloud on this blog?

Also is HC-DID a term they can use?

(we have done some reflecting)

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Yes, people with incomplete or partial programming are welcome here. Everyone is welcome here, as long as they are respectful.

In terms of whether incomplete programmed systems can use HC-DID, it depends.

As long as you fit the definitional requirements for HC-DID then you can use the label if you want (and successful/complete programming isn't a requirement to be HC-DID in any definition we can find)

We+ define HC-DID as a system that has dissociative alters that were intentionally split off. So if you have them then, in our+ opinion, you can use HC-DID if you want.

[hc-did-culture-is]

I had to look up what HC DID is.... I'm super polyfragmented with a lot of extreme trauma. Do I belong here? If not, I'm sorry. 😭 /gen srs

You don't need to apologize /genuine

If you relate to this blog, you're welcome here.

We+ can't say whether or not you're HC-DID, that's only something you can know.