Skyhold Conversation: Here Lies the Abyss
Warden Loghain
Skyhold Masterpost Related Quest: Here Lies the Abyss
The PC can speak to Loghain up on the battlements.
Speaking to Loghain before the Western Approach: Loghain: If we wish to stop my fellow Wardens, we should get to their ritual tower in the Western Approach.
Speaking to Loghain after the Western Approach: Loghain: Did Hawke tell you? We tracked Erimond to Adamant Fortress. Idiots. So devoted to their own cause they abandoned all common sense.
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Loghain: Yes?
1 - Dialogue options:
Investigate (after Western Approach): How did this happen? [2]
Investigate: How did you join the Wardens? [3]
Investigate (after Western Approach): Tell me about Clarel. [4]
Investigate: What do the Wardens know? [5]
Investigate (Hero of Ferelden survived): What of the Hero of Ferelden? [6]
General: Goodbye. [7]
2 - Investigate: How did this happen? PC: How could the Wardens do this? What did the Warden-Commander tell them? Loghain: Clarel said we were making the hard decisions necessary to fight future blights. Wardens do what is necessary to stop the darkspawn. We’re the only ones who truly can. It’s a burden few can imagine. Although, with that mark on your hand, perhaps you can. [back to 1]
3 - Investigate: How did you join the Wardens? PC: I heard something of what happened in Ferelden. How is it you weren’t executed? Loghain: When your mistakes are public, everyone feels they have the right to a personal apology. In the final hours of the Blight, the Wardens were shorthanded. They needed every soldier they could get. The rest of my life will be my penance.
Dialogue options:
Special: Why are the Wardens after you? [8]
[Back to 1]
8 - Special: Why are the Wardens after you? PC: How did you end up an enemy of the Wardens again? Loghain: When the Calling began, I searched as much as anyone for an answer. I protested the rituals, but faced little resistance until I began to investigate the death of Corypheus. The Warden mages branded me a traitor and attacked. When I defended myself, Clarel ordered my death. [Back to 1]
4 - Investigate: Tell me about Clarel. PC: I’d like to know more about Warden-Commander Clarel. Loghain: I have served under her since coming to Orlais. She seemed fair before, dedicated. Perhaps that was the problem. I, more than anyone, know the cost of too much dedication
Dialogue options:
Special: Is Corypheus controlling her? [9]
[Back to 1]
9 - Special: Is Corypheus controlling her? PC: Do you think Clarel is acting of her own volition? Loghain: The Calling does not control minds, and I doubt Clarel could fall to Corypheus without others noticing. Whatever mistakes she makes, she makes of her own accord. Hopefully we will learn more in the Western Approach. [back to 1]
5 - Investigate: What do the Wardens know? PC: Corypheus was imprisoned by the Wardens, right? So they must know who or what he is. Loghain: Secrets are a habit with the Wardens. One that’s cost many lives. Some knowledge is too dangerous to share. I knew little of Corypheus, and that was more than most. No one thought that knowledge could be vital. [back to 1]
6 - Investigate: What of the Hero of Ferelden? PC: You said that Clarel was Warden-Commander. I thought that the Hero of Ferelden led the Wardens. Loghain: There is more than one Warden-Commander. Each oversees a region, most often a single nation.
Loghain (HoF rules with Alistair): The [person] you speak of was Warden-Commander of Ferelden, as well as queen consort to Alistair. Loghain (HoF rules with Anora): The [person] you speak of was Warden-Commander of Ferelden, as well as prince consort to Anora. Loghain (HoF does not rule Ferelden): The [person] you speak of was Warden-Commander of Ferelden.
Loghain: [They] disappeared some time ago. It is possible [they] joined the rest of the Wardens, although I cannot say for certain. [back to 1]
7 - General: Goodbye. PC: I’ll talk to you later. Loghain: Of course.
