The more you ask a subject to forget, the more likely they are to remember.
Mantis, Bad Occult Podcast Episode 12 - Hypnosis Should Be Peer Reviewed
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The more you ask a subject to forget, the more likely they are to remember.
Mantis, Bad Occult Podcast Episode 12 - Hypnosis Should Be Peer Reviewed
CW: Hypnotic language and presentation Sometimes people have a hard time with hypnotic amnesia. And if you think about, it makes sense. Even if you’re allllll @.@ and eagerly following along, doing just as you’re told, what do you actually do when someone tells you to, err... forget?
Trying to remember stuff? We do that all the time. But how often in your life do you try to forget? Well - not you - but you’re a kinky fuck.
And even then, if we ask your brain to just do that while you ‘re all @.@ and following, how will it know what to do? The flesh is willing, but the spirit is confused.
If you’re someone who’s got a hard time forgetting on purpose, then I’d like to show you a little about that. You can just read, of course, but you might enjoy imagining along your way along, and you’ll probably learn a little better if you’re a suggestible you.
And don’t worry. It’s easy to learn: you just have to remember trying to remember. And failing. That’s what it feels like to forget, after all.
There’s a dozen ways to forget. More, even. But we’ll start by helping you remember one that’s like to be familiar to you. There’s this feeling you get when when you know you know but you just can’t think of it and it’s right there on the tip of your tongue and - well, you’ll probably remember it in a few hours. Maybe.
You know that one, right? How the more you try to remember, the more you... can’t.
And that kind of forgetting, It’s easy to imagine how that’d work if you were hypnotised and following and learning to forget.
You’d be roused from your distraction and you’d try to remember what you’d been told to forget and it- you’d know you knew it, right? And that’d be fun. Very fun. You wouldn’t be reading this if you didn’t think so.
And if it’s fun, you’ll keep at it. You’ll try harder and harder to remember knowing that it’ll make your thoughts drift further and further out of reach while you’re reaching and furrowing and “ummm...”
That’s the sound people make, isn’t it? Some version of it, anyway. They go “ummm...”
That’s probably when you’ll be certain it’s gone. When you’re stuck on trying and failing and “ummm...” That’s probably when you’ll light up in giddy and happy and proud for having finally gotten to forget just like you wanted to.
After that. well, then you’ll get to practice remembering all the other times you’ve forgotten: other feelings and ways forgetting can be. Like when you’re hearing a story you’re in but you haven’t any idea at all what the person you’re listening to is on about. Or the feeling of having just got through something just awfully dense and not really being sure if you actually understood what you read at all.
And if you’re not sure you got it right? That’s OK. It can be a little tricky, at first, to light on the feeling of not quite reaching, but I’m sure that if you go over it all again it’ll click right into place.
On File Listening
Years ago (like, more than a decade ago) listening to hypnosis files used to be a frequent thing for me. Once I started doing more hypno in the real world, though, it started to just feel like a… poor copy of the real thing. I’d still listen to friends’ files, but it wasn’t a regular thing.
For a while, though, amidst the worst days of the pandemic I listened to a lot of recordings by my hypnotherapist. Those weren’t really recreational, but I was surprised to find them really effective at one thing in particular: amnesia.
If you’ve followed this blog for a while, you’ll know amnesia’s a white whale for me. I always want it and have rarely had it, especially in one-on-one sessions. So it was a revelation to like… have no memory at all of those therapy sessions and recordings. It wasn’t intentional on her part; it just spontaneously happened in my brain.
Anyway, fast forward to the last year in particular, and my experience getting to know and work with a lot more file makers in general as part of the Hypnosis Creators Collective.
Getting the chance to listen to their work and be more thoughtful about the files I made sort of… stimulated the idea of listening to new hypnosis files and also revisiting older ones. Especially given the State of The Nation right now, my time/energy/reliability to do trance with others has been severely limited (like, essentially none).
It turns out I’ve gotten a lot more responsive to hypnosis files than I thought I was. To some extent listening to the therapy recordings nearly every day was a form of conditioning/practice, but it’s kind of remarkable to experience. I’m responding to amnesia suggestions! I’m leaning into recordings that have effects and sound tricks! It’s fun!
I’m also quite curious how it will translate to in-person trance in particular; with Charmed just around the corner, I’m excited to see how things play out. The wishlist will be enhanced for sure…
There’s not a real big point here other than to say: brains are flexible and fungible things. What works for you as a subject one day may work differently the next; and what doesn’t work may turn into a skill that you’re really talented with. Give yourself room to grow and evolve, even when you’re not sure it’s possible.
Hypnovember Day 22
I know it's February now but I said I'd finish these and I meant it! (and this is an excellent prompt for February anyway!)
Day 22: Write & Post a fan letter or love letter to hypnosis.
My darling, my wonder, my touchstone, my love,
Before I lose all my words to you, before my thoughts slow and still and stop, before the need you inspire shoots from a simmer to a surge
While I can still translate how I feel into what I hope you can hear in my voice and read in my words
befoer i sink even more into the weight of your embrace
too late
but still i need to tell you
i need to share wit you
i need to drop deeper now
i need to drop deeper to forget
when the pipeling between my mind and my voice and my words and my hands disappears will you still know how much i need you?
i need you
i need you
i need
i need to drop even deeper now