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What colour is the lower case letter d to you?
red
blue
yellow
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orange
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black (because that's how it's displayed on my screen)
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wtf are you talking about?
trying to explain to people what ideasthesia is is kinda difficult.
Because people already struggle with synesthesia, which is when two senses get crossed over. (ex: someone may taste colors, or see sounds). My friend who has it sees things as colors. But he has to physically see something with his eyes to see it as a color. Some people taste things when they touch them, or smell something when they hear it.
Ideasthesia is the same concept, but with ideas and concepts, things you cannot interpret with one of the five senses: eyesight, hearing, taste, touch and smell.
The day Monday isn't something you can interpret with one of the five senses. While you can exist within the day of Monday, you can't see, hear, touch, taste, or smell a Monday. You understand what Monday is, you can see the word Monday. You can have memories of a Monday. You can hear the word Monday. You can think about Monday, but you cannot interpret Monday by tasting the concept, hearing the concept, smelling the concept, touching the concept, or seeing the concept.
If you're brainstorming topics for an essay in your head, you can't see, hear, touch, taste, or smell that idea. You can visualize the topic in your head, but you cannot physically see it with your eyes.
To me. EVERYTHING has a color. The month of October is orange to me. You can exist in the month of October, but the concept of October is something you can't interpret with one of the five senses.
Some people have a hard time grasping at the concept of synesthesia- so getting people to separate that from ideasthesia can be near impossible sometimes.
What type of synesthesia would associating days of the week/months with colors fall under?
I've never quite been sure about this one. It isn't grapheme-color, as graphemes refer to the "smallest units in a writing system" (aka letters, numbers, and any other symbols used by languages around the world).
However, there is something called ideasthesia, and I think it can be used to describe a lot of synesthetic experiences.
Ideasthesia describes the experience of having senses evoked in relation to concepts, rather than other senses. So while someone with chromesthesia connects two senses - hearing and sight - ideasthesia connects a non-sensory input to one of your senses, like the months of the year/days of the week with sight (aka colors).
Overall, it's a messy answer, as synesthesia is a messy concept that's often hard to put into categories for different synesthetes. But ideasthesia is considered synesthesia, and it can help to describe a lot of synesthetic associations.
My apologies for the rather long answer. I love learning about this stuff! Thanks for your ask :)
Synesthesia
I associate numbers with colors, and have a very specific system where some digits appear emphasized over others in my head.
0 and 1 are very weak numbers, they don’t have colors associated with them and just take on the color of the number around them. By themselves I would say either black or white, depending on context.
2 is a reddish pink, and is a very strong number. Numbers like 2000 are pink because the 2 overshadows the three 0s.
3 is a deep blue. If a number starts with a 1, he next digit is emphasized, so a number like 1300 is blue. 1357 is blue, but the 5 and 7 highlight it with their respective colors, listed below.
4 is a light purple, something like the Crayola crayon colors “wisteria” or “purple mountain majesty”
5 is a dark green, almost an earthy green, organic, but it’s not a strong color, so it can be overshadowed. 15 is light green, with the 1 sapping some color from the 5. 57 is a lime green.
6 is orange, a garish orange but not like a bright neon orange, more like a loud muddy orange that overpowers everything around it. 56 is brown because it is green and orange combined, but 65 is orange with a green stripe because the 6 comes first.
7 is yellow, a bright happy yellow that brightens the numbers around it. 57 is lime green as stated above, but the 7 doesn’t always mix with the other colors; 37 isn’t green, it’s still blue, but it has a yellow aura around it. 27 is reddish pink with a yellowish glow, but 72 is just yellow next to red, very distinct.
8 is weird for me, as I don’t have any super strong connotations or associations with it. It’s not like 0 or 1, but it isn’t as colorful as any of the others. If I had to put a word to it, I’d say it’s a dark blue, almost a navy blue, much more subdued than the 3. 1800 is a gray blue color, like a Civil War uniform. The 1860s are orange, with the 6 overpowering everything.
9 is a deep, dark purple and is the strongest color. 9 overpowers everything in my head. 1900 through 1999 are all dark purple regardless of what other numbers are involved. 1997 has a yellow tail, but it is still purple (not grey or brown, the colors don’t mix, it’s just purple with a little yellow highlight at the end). 1920s are dark purple with a red stripe in the middle, but the 1930s are just purple with nothing else (the 3 doesn’t shine through). The 1970s are yellowish, sort of a grainy sepia mustardy yellow like an old polaroid, surrounded by dark purple.
Give me a number, and I’ll tell you what color it makes me think of.
Is synesthesia purely about the senses, or is it a reaction to concepts?
Synaesthesia is a rare phenomenon in which real sensory experiences evoke sensory experiences that are not directly caused by outside physical events.
For example, when a synaesthete hears a name, it can experience certain taste unique for this particular name. For a synaesthete person, ‘John’ could always taste as chocolate. In one common form of synaesthesia letters and digits are associated with a concurrent perception of color. This phenomenon is known as grapheme-color synaesthesia. The illustration shows grapheme-color associations for one synaesthete who volunteered as a participant in our study.
We have conducted a number of studies conjointly indicating that synesthesia is not a sensory-sensory phenomenon, as it has been largely held. Instead, this is a semantic-sensory phenomenon in which the meaning of the stimulus induces perception-like experiences. Hence, I proposed that a more accurate name for the phenomenon is ideaesthesia, which is Greek for “sensing concepts” (Nikolić, 2009). The theory of ideasthesia is based on arguments for introducing a semantic component and on a proposal how the semantic system contributes to the phenomenon.
Is it synesthesia to associate school subjects with colors? I've heard about it in relation to synesthesia before, but not in years. Since elementary school, I've always picked which binders/folders I use for each subject based on what color I feel like it is. For example I just needed to pick a folder for a class and literally asked myself, "What color is this?" And without much thought, determined out of all of the colors, it had to be the light orange folder. I'm not sure how common or uncommon this form is if it is synesthesia, but thank you for your response anyways! 😄
Though a lot of students seem to associate school subjects with colors, I think it could certainly be a type of synesthesia - especially with associations that never change. I think this falls under the category of ideasthesia (sensory reactions in response to ideas / concepts).
I'm also not sure how common this is, though. While I've heard a lot of playful arguments over what colors certain subjects are, I'm not sure how many people partaking in those arguments could be considered to have synesthesia - because the typical qualifying factor of one's synesthesia is that their associations remain consistent, and who knows how many students arguing over subject colors have always associated those specific colors with those subjects? Not I!
What gender are your letters?
Here are mine:
Female:
aMNQSUW
Male:
BCDEFGIJOPRTVYZ3567890
Agender/genderfluid:
AHKLX124
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