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Ok so we all know that after the last season was the rise of the “Lucifer heals Alastor’s angelic wound” fic, right? What do we all think it will be this time? I’m gonna go with “Alastor becomes Lucifer’s scary bodyguard” as the new big radioapple thing.

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I love the idea of the Vees being a polycule, but with Vox and Val being sexual/romantic with each other and Velvette being their queerplatonic third

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I’m not really sure how to start this but I NEED to talk about it, as it’s been bouncing around in my brain for a while and I just AGH-

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I think that this season made it pretty obvious that Val really cares about Vox, but I also think that, despite all of the things he did, Vox also really cares about Val and I want to dive into both sides of that.

Valentino has a lot of moments this season that show how much he cares about Vox. An example I feel is good is how they interact backstage before “Vox Populi” (the moments leading up to when Vox tells him not to go on stage). He’s being flirty, but he also actually complimenting Vox and being affectionate (fixing his bow tie/just being really touchy). A little later in this scene, before he’s about to head on stage (like, right before Vox stops him) he seems genuinely anxious and looks to Vox for reassurance that he’ll see him out there. Another example is his part in “When I Think About The Future”. This one is more obvious, he cares about Vox and it hurts him how Vox is acting. He doesn’t want to be left without him, and he just wants him to be normal again. The last example on Val’s side that I’m going to use is that how in the finale, he never abandons Vox, despite everything that he did. After pushing him (and Velvette) away all season he sticks by Vox anyways.

Now onto Vox, which is a little more complicated. Despite his complaints in season 1, and his treatment of Val throughout season 2, I do think he actually cares about Val. If you look at how the two of them interact when no one is watching, Vox seems to be genuinely happy and enjoying himself. We see this in the scene I mentioned earlier, before “Vox Populi”. He (before Alastor buts in anyways) is looking at Val and he seems as if he’s enjoying himself. He also seems pretty happy when they’re dancing together at the end of season 1. Taking a look at all of the moments they share alone, it’s only when someone else (especially Alastor) points out or perceives their relationship that he starts to push Val away and get embarrassed. I think that Vox has a lot of internalized homophobia. I seriously doubt that Vox was out while he was alive. I don’t think Vox, who was very famous and at the head of a television cult, and who wanted to be worshiped in a time where being queer was extremely looked down upon (not that it isn’t now, because it definitely still is, but you know what I mean) would have let that detail about himself slip. (On a side note I also believe that Vox, being bisexual, would probably tell himself that everything was ok because he could always be happy with a woman, even though denying this part of himself really hurt him. While he could have been satisfied with either a woman or a man as a partner, he would have only really been happy if he could be his true self, though he would have never let himself, but back to what I was going on about before). The first man he ever tried to let into his life in this way shot him down brutally, making him even more closed off in this aspect (Al had every right to reject him in any way he saw fit, but my point still stands that it hurt him). After growing up and living in the time period that he did, and after being rejected in the way that he was, it become even harder for Vox to accept his queerness. Being in a relationship with Valentino feels good though. He’s finally let himself have the relationship he wanted. He enjoys their sex, and he is actually happy when he’s with him. Even so, there’s always this little piece of him that tells him that this is wrong, and that he shouldn’t want it, with those feelings only being amplified when someone (again, especially Alastor) points out their relationship. This is part of why Alastor’s prying into his relationships works so well, his wants to control everything and be the center of attention feed into it as well, but this does too. Emotional attachments of any kind were seen as weaknesses, and deep down he believes his queerness to be another weakness of his. Telling him that he’s nothing without the other Vees, especially Valentino, really gets to him and is one of the main causes of him pushing them away. Despite everything that happened though, I do think that Vox really does care about Val.

They love each other guys. I swear.

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I really, desperately, want to see Vox and Alastor’s big fight, the one mentioned by Valentino in season one, “he almost beat you that time” or something like that. I imagine that’s where his damaged antenna came from, as he didn’t have either of his antenna bent in the past, and maybe Val’s too, as he has the same damaged antenna as Vox, with neither of his being like that in past photos. It may be possible that they fought Alastor together, and I would love to see that. Radiostatic fight AND a possible staticmoth team up? YES PLEASE.

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Is Vox out to all of Hell? He seems to only indulge his relationship with Val when they’re alone, and he blushes and get embarrassed when anyone points out them doing anything remotely sexual/romantic together, or even that he likes Val at all. We know that he grew up, lived, and died in a time where being queer is far less accepted than it is now. He cares a lot about how he is perceived, and he wants to be worshiped (loved). When he was alive and in charge of his cult, if it came out that he was queer it would have been a disaster. He would have lost his following and probably his job too. He would have been content in a relationship with a woman, but hiding his bisexuality hurt him. I don’t doubt for a second that he has a lot of internalized homophobia. After denying himself this kind of relationship for so long, (and being denied it from Al, though he had every right to do so), he finally has what he wants, a relationship where he doesn’t have to hide his sexuality. This is still clearly something he’s still trying to come to terms with though, hence the embarrassment every time it’s pointed out to him. I think that, because of this, he would want to keep both his relationship and his sexuality a secret from Hell. All of the feelings about his queerness that he’s internalized make him want to hide his sexuality from them. While his coming out in Hell probably wouldn’t go like it would have if he came out while he was alive, he fears that they might. His need to keep up appearances, be in control, and be worshiped feed into this fear. So, all of this to say, no, I don’t think so, he’s probably not publicly out to Hell.

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I can't stop thinking about a set of scenarios where Vox would almost get over Alastor, and then Al, realizing this, would intentionally get in Vox’s head and make him upset, dragging him right back into his obsession. Al is just as obsessed with Vox as Vox is him, and he can’t stand the idea of Vox moving on. In the way I’m imagining it, this would all take place over those post falling out years. Vox would start to get over everything, and Alastor would show up and get under his skin, making him worse on purpose, because he won’t bear Vox moving on from everything while he’s still stuck in the past. Vox needs Alastor to stay out of his life if he ever wants to feel better, soothe the ache left behind, and move on, but Al keeps walking right back in. Every. Single. Time. He will never let Vox heal.

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Radio apple fake dating au and they do it to piss off Vox

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How do you think Lucifer felt when the hotel was being attacked the loan sharks that were after Mimzy back in season one? While there’s no way of trying knowing whether they were sinners or hellborn, if we imagine that they’re sinners, that means that he had to sit back and watch Alastor deal with them while Charlie yells at him and he can literally do nothing about it.