bro just take my fucking job application without a cover letter. we're literally gonna be in a mega economic collapse, you're not gonna fucking read it anyways. do you really need some fucking fanfic about me working at your business?? what the fuck are we even doing right now??
Okay, so I'm mad about it, and the job market is ass rn, so I'm going to point out some of the things that make these more noticeably scams instead of actual employment opportunities. I specifically use Indeed.com, but a lot of job sites are copy-pasted anyway, so I imagine a lot of this is transferable between them.
So, it's really hard to spot a scam job listing before applying, especially if you're doing it like me, and have applied for a couple hundred. A lot of job applications are very formulaic, so it's easy to copy, and they tend to use real company logos and whatnot.
Also, a lot of real companies are lazy, and won't have fully set-up Indeed pages. Big ones will, but smaller companies won't, so a blank page or missing logo isn't always a sure-sign.
So this is the scam I caught, right? They're using The Lilly Company (spelt with 2 L's, that's important).
So, this "company" reached out to me, first on Indeed though the messages, then much later in an email. When I reclicked on my application, to double check which one it was:
The page was gone. I've never seen a legitimate job posting just vanish. I declined the interview on Indeed, and moved on with my life.
But then, they reached out to me again with an email.
So, I looked them up online, using the logo to find the correct company, and found this:
This company does forklifts, but what's more interesting, is that they don't even operate in my area, so why would they have a job posting there? I also checked their career page, and ended up finding their actual Indeed page-
Where they had no listings matching the one I had applied to.
Now, onto the email itself:
Going down the list, I can tell this isn't real for the things I've boxed in red.
The Company name is spelt with one L instead of 2. I've seen typo's before, but usually not the company's name, and not in the subject bar.
There is no way this is a company email. First off "hrteam20001", I've never seen one with numbers like a username. Second, they're using gmail. Normally, companies have some sort of in-house email. Something like "[email protected]", not gmail.
The phrasing of this is bad. Normally, company emails are written in this strict business-professional style and this breaks that. We all know what the next stage of any hiring process is, there's no reason for that to be phrased like that.
There's no company signature. In tandem with the email, there's usually a company logo and official signature. It's not even something that's hard to fake, but they didn't even do that.
At this point, I told them to screw off. You can report them too, even tell the real company that someone is impersonating them, but who knows what that actually does.
Okay! Some other things I've seen that didn't happen in this one.
Odd interview methods: the previous time i encountered a scam application, they attempted to interview me via whatsapp. No company does a text interview. Email, asking for basic info and/or clarification? Sure, but not asking to do a who interview via whatsapp chat.
The company that reaches out won't match the application sent in, or there will be mismatched details, such as a logo and company name not matching. The application can also be changed. If the company that reaches out doesn't match the initial application, then that's a big red flag.
You shouldn't have to pay to get a job. You won't be asked to provide your own tech/materials, even if the company offers to reimburse. I'm talking specifically tech, because there are companies that are going to ask you to pay for your own fingerprinting/licenses, even if they do offer incentive.
Anyway, just some things I've noticed to watch out for.
in december last year the company i worked for a year and a half closed down and i have been interviewing for jobs since then and the job market is crazy you guys im telling you. like several steps, a lot of hours put in to interviews with multiple people, case studies, all the commute for face to face interviews... and like processess take ages now, it's crazy. and that is if the job posts are real. a lot of companies put out fake job posts to kinda scare the people inside. like see how we put out a job post for your role. so you better work harder. IT'S CRAZY. LIKE JUST HIRE ME OK?
I don’t know how many fundraisers are following me, but here’s an interesting remote gig with We Need Diverse Books for someone with 3-5 years experience. Salary range is $55,000 to $75,000.
I don’t know anything about their inner-workings; just follow them on social and like the way the job listing reads. Might be worth investigating!