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Me trying to pretend to be the main host usually ends up with me audibly saying things vaguely Siffrin-like, such as their beliefs. It sounds really odd and I don't know why I keep doing it. It sounds like if a person went up to you and was like "Im a person, which also means I have skin." I bring this up because earlier in class I

".. It's quiet, I don't like that."

-🌑/Moon

I've been on Reddit for a while and, god, Mike/Mlvn stans there are soooo weird. They put Mike on a pedestal, whitewash all the flaws that make him interesting, praise him for doing the bare minimum, and treat Will AND EL as tools useful to make Mike look better.

As a Mike stan, it's so unpleasant to read those stupid ass takes...

Mike is so complex and flawed and that's what makes him one of the best characters.

All of them are complex!! We're supposed to question them and their actions so we can figure out what it means for them and the overall story.

But the thing about Mike is that, the story is directly avoiding explaining everything that's actually going on with him, ie. Mike apparently noticing Will's every move at Rink-O-Mania, but the story not letting us see that... And so people watching casually are understandably just very prone to disliking Mike, because they have so little to go off of.

Post s4 a lot of bylers were coming for Mike, but that started to shift when we realized his POV was largely missing compared to previous seasons, and that there's a reason for that.

But it wasn't just bylers, plenty of casual fans will go on Reddit even still over a year later, and bring up their distaste for Mike and/or Mike and El's relationship, and how it's stemming from the fact that they don't know the truth about what is actually going on. They are confused. And they don't like what they are seeing based on the conclusion they have come to.

And instead of being met with actual evidence that explains Mike's behavior beyond the superficial, they get chastised by active fans in the sub. UGH it's so obvious. It's not that difficult to understand! That's the kind of stuff they say to casual fans every single day coming on there for answers after watching the show and sensing something off. Like, it must not be that obvious if not only bylers are acknowledging the elephant in the room, but even random casual fans are out here simply looking for some clarity, consistently.

And the way they talk about Mike, they talk about him in a way where it's obvious they don't actually know what he's genuinely going through. They conflate him to being in love with El and insecure because she's better than him. And their biggest defense is that all teenage boys go through that? Like, what are we even talking about right now?

On a show as complex as Stranger Things, they go from giving us the protagonist's POV in the first two seasons, to almost removing it entirely, causing the bulk of their audience to be confused bc there are pieces missing... You'd think that was probably intentional? Probably to keep a secret going, seeing as explaining exactly what Mike was thinking throughout s3-4 would sort of give the surprise away?

Every season has to get better than the previous. The stakes for season 5 are MASSIVE. And many are going into it completely misunderstanding what Mike is thinking and feeling. All it would literally take is informing them to change that and make the show come full circle perfectly.

I think they intend for the show to be rewatched and rewatched again and again. And you're not going to be able to rewatch ST from the beginning if you don't like Mike Wheeler. And that includes him and all his flaws that go beyond just the palatable that they've been willing to reveal up to this point, but also the truth behind it the Duffers have been so tight lipped about, with intentions to save it for the end.

If they're keeping us in the dark about Mike's true feelings and most of the audience hates him rn based on misunderstandings, then yeah, there's a really good chance they'll do what they can to clear up that confusion. There's a good chance they'll want to do what they can to make all of those moments in previous seasons easier to appreciate Mike's complexities and what he was going through more, and while most had no idea or even denied it as being a possibility in the first place when confronted with it back then.

If you're conflating Mike to he's a teenager give him a break and you're not actually down for discussions about what makes him very intentionally complex and why he is deserving of actually being able to say his piece for everyone that's misunderstood him over the years, then idk what to tell you. You're expectations for the Duffer's are obscenely low...

#byler #ask #mike wheeler #reddit rambles #i saw them once do a whole shitpost on el and explain why mike was right at every point and el was wrong...#it was weird...#like all of the characters have their reasons for why they do what they do #will has his reasons #el has her reasons #and mike has his reasons #the problem is we are mostly in the dark about what those reasons are in mike's case #if we weren't and they kept us as clued in as they did in s1-2 #there would be no debate rn #and we'd all being going into s5 confident that byler was the route they were going #but that's not what they wanted #normalize straight-baiting for your audience with proof all along the way so they can't try to say it came out of nowhere #normalize subverting tropes #normalize saving the best and most surprising for last

That reminds me...

What exactly was up with Evil Otoya in the Nega World episodes. Is that going to me explained in the movie too? ‘:/

#Kamen Rider Decade #He just kinda disappeared after that...#it was weird...#well....Wataru may have turned into a jerk but he's still too cute to punch #Otou-san you can take an extra hit in his place >.>

Ok this is gonna sound kinda silly but have any other systems ever had introjects of their ocs?

#We had like.. three but they've integrated w/ other alters and stuff #It was weird...

Last night I had a dream that Gerard Way tattooed his autograph on me??

#it was weird...#i dont even listen to mcr anymore really #personal

As a Mike stan, it's so unpleasant to read those stupid ass takes...

Mike is so complex and flawed and that's what makes him one of the best characters.

All of them are complex!! We're supposed to question them and their actions so we can figure out what it means for them and the overall story.

Post s4 a lot of bylers were coming for Mike, but that started to shift when we realized his POV was largely missing compared to previous seasons, and that there's a reason for that.

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