Tonight I am sitting here haunted by the line from an impossible view: “...[I]f he loses this, no one is going to want him as much as Mac does ever again.” Like.... how dare you? How dare you make me think about Dennis actively rejecting anyone who genuinely wants him—the waitress, Maureen, Mac—while also craving the validation that brings? And getting his need for validation confused with his deeper feelings for Mac? I am furious and sad and I love this story so much
because we love suffering over here at macdennis HQ obviously!!!! love to be in pain at all times of the day and night about this shit!!
this is such an interesting comment because I DO think dennis finds it difficult to separate his feelings for mac vs how good mac's attention makes him feel, and that's one of the things that's allowed him to hide for so long - if he just likes the ego boost then it's not gay, right?
that line is also kind of heartbreaking to me because it demonstrates how difficult dennis finds it to experience happiness without a constant awareness that it's going to end. he just doesn't have experience with like....lasting happiness and joy so he has to grab these scraps of it wherever he can.
play the game by putting on the breaks by @itsactuallycorrine
It is a truth, universally acknowledged, that everyone wants to have sex with Valencia. Until Heather doesn't. Well, it isn't so much that Heather doesn't, as it is she thinks Valencia doesn't feel the same way.
It's up to Valencia to figure out if she does. (spoilers: she does)
Some thoughts (lmao, more like an essay - 1.2k words) to go alongside this post about Jeff and Annie Post-S6 by @itsactuallycorrine because I like discussing and talking about my two favourite fictional characters. I hope you don’t mind me adding on my thoughts!
In no way trying to force an opinion down anyone’s throat. I’ve actually been wanting to say some of this stuff for a while now so I guess thanks for opening up the conversation! I’d be interested to hear other people’s thoughts :)
I 100% agree that we never saw an equal amount of Annie’s POV when it came to their relationship on the show. This is mainly due to the fact that Jeff was, pretty much, the main character. The show revolves around his journey for the most part, although the show did progress and give the characters a more even spread along the way, which is why we do see his incredible arc of growth.
We know a lot about where Jeff stands with Annie and how he sees himself; he’s insecure and afraid of being vulnerable because he’s afraid of losing something that is important to him. He knows it would be painful and hard to fix if they started something and it didn’t work out because obviously, they mean something to each other. It’s not like what he’s experienced before and he’d rather stay safe and hold her at a distance than risk giving it a shot.
However, from what’s stated in that post; Annie’s perspective is pretty easy to figure out even if it isn’t necessarily focused on directly in the show. We can tell she distanced herself in S6. She didn’t involve herself with Jeff as much; she joined in with jokes that poked at him; she was surrounded by Abed and Britta (especially as they all lived together). She didn’t tell him about DC etc. After Season 5, it makes sense. Seeing Jeff fall back into place with Britta hurt her which saw us see her let him go - “We have to let each other want what we want”.
With this, I agree that she wouldn’t jump straight in and take Jeff’s words as is, but I also believe she would understand them as something different to her previous experiences.
Firstly, I think looking at his words is really important. Jeff doesn’t throw around words that actually have meaning to them very often or very easily and it’s not just to Annie either (”I don't believe in dibs, love at first sight, love, best friends or doing things”). Him saying the word heart is a pretty big deal ((even if the writers decided to soften the blow by talking about penises too)) and I think she would recognise that.
She may have been distancing herself but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t know Jeff anymore or that she doesn’t understand how he’s changed or has been acting. I believe because of this, and her understanding the sincerity behind his words combined with the fact she’d been distancing herself, no, she wouldn’t jump straight in but I also don’t think she would just let him drop it.
Something I often see within the J/A fandom, especially Post-S6 is the idea that they wouldn’t stay in touch during the summer. That quite frankly baffles me. I also think it is often forgotten that there was a week between the study room scene and her and Abed leaving at the airport. At the airport we clearly see Jeff kissing her goodbye nonchalantly. That’s different to a head pat. That’s different to any other way we’ve seen them interact before. It’s change; change of which happened during that week...
Annie wouldn’t drop it and her doing so doesn’t mean she’s ready to step right in and bow down to him, it means that she’s ready to stand her ground and show him that if he’s really serious, he has to be.
I’m also in agreement that Jeff wouldn’t be perfect in a relationship straight away. He does have problems and issues to face and he knows that too. He might not know exactly what he wants but we know for sure he wants it all with her. He loves her. He’s in love with her and I think because it was such a big moment, he wouldn’t let it go either. I can’t imagine that they would have left the study room without immediately talking or arranging to talk soon. Jeff’s put his cards on the table which for him, especially in S6, is a huge development.
And although it may not seem like it without a clear cut version of Annie’s POV, we know she would understand the difference between then and now - in my opinion, anyway.
This also takes me back to how people often presume they wouldn’t stay in touch over the summer. The summer would give them the perfect opportunity to think things through; it would give Jeff the time to think about what he really wants and what he needs to change. It would give Annie the time to take some time away and think about what she wants to whilst also staying in touch with Jeff to understand that he is still sticking to his word. I know for some people one example for Jeff is that he would go to AA during the summer (and of course carry on doing so).
In terms of the movie I presume it will be set a few years after Season 6. It would be natural anyhow as the cast age etc. If this is the case, I think they will be together already. It would be kind of sad to not see it happen but I also think, with all of what I have explained above, it would be out of character for them to take years to get together after the finale.
I was also discussing this with @zacscottysnl and she brought up something I’ve mentioned in previous discussions; during the conversation in the study room, they explain what they want and although on the surface they make look like opposites, they’re actually at a perfect balance. Jeff wants to experience more (yet deep down he also wants to have a family and settle down, as we saw in his vision) and Annie wants to start slowing down and settling. She wants a home and so does Jeff but she also wants to start pushing forward in her career (with going to DC). They can have exactly what they want with each other... and when you mix their love into that - I can’t imagine them waiting that much longer.
Finally, going back to the movie again; I once saw someone see the moment after their kiss in the study room as a private moment; the shot is zoomed out and you can’t see exactly where their hands are and I think that’s a lovely way to see it. Especially for shippers, their relationship was pretty heavily analysed (and I guess, still is, lmao) by not only the fans but also the characters within the show, so, for them to have their moment alone was really beautiful and I think it would be the same case with them getting together. We might hear of the story but we might not necessarily see it.
Lmao, I hope this is in some way coherent and understandable. I just needed to vent. I actually kinda’ miss discussing stuff in this fandom and something I’ve been wanting to bring up is the whole “losing touch over the summer” thing.
Anyhoo, bye for now. I hope some of you at least were intrigued by that over 1k word rant.
👏 : What’s something you’ve done recently (even if it’s a small thing) that you’re proud of?
So in the last ask I said my comfort foods are pizza, pho and korean fried chicken, but i actually can’t eat a lot of that anymore because of all the salt :( i’m watching my diet more closely now and making healthier choices when it comes to food.
besides, these foods taste better with other people so i’m looking forward to dining with other people regularly post covid.
Oooh! This is a fun question. So ideally I’d live in the mountains in an A-Frame. I like the look of black A-Frames but I’m not picky. It’d have two decent sized bedrooms and the option for more sleeping areas down stairs so I could have friends over. Lot’s of comfy furniture. Fireplace and wood or pellet burning stove. Large deck with hot tub. There’d be good internet because dreams. Near a river or stream. Fairly uncluttered but with enough pillows and blankets and throws to make it cozy. There’d be laundry. Yeah...sounds good. Also since it’s a dream, my joints would totally tolerate the stairs but maybe there’d be a bedroom on the first floor just in case.
quilt - how do you take your tea (or coffee)?
Both get half and half, and the coffee also gets sucralose drops. If I’m going fancy it’s the same because starbucks no longer makes the sugar free mocha or peppermint syrups. those were the days.
tagged by: @itsactuallycorrine and not-tagged by @hondagirll but I’m doing it so hey there you go :)
Last song: Little Black Dress by Sara Bareilles
Last movie: Totally Under Control, a documentary on Hulu about the U.S. government’s response to the pandemic. I’m actually only halfway through that one, though, so I think the last movie I watched all of was Emma. (2020).
Currently watching: Ted Lasso!!!!! It’s so good!!! Thank you again @dollsome-does-tumblr! <3
I’ve also been rewatching The Umbrella Academy, and recently watched the first few episodes of Wayne, but I don’t know if I’m gonna keep going. I like the characters but I’m a wimp and there’s a lot of violence. If someone wants to tell me that the first three eps are the most violent and it gets less violent from there, I will keep watching, but I somehow suspect that is not the case.
Currently reading: re-reading The Thief and thinking about re-reading the entire Queen’s Thief series before I read Return of the Thief. I haven’t decided if I’ll re-read the entire series or not. I did enjoy the series when I first read it a few years ago, but I finished it, thought, I enjoyed those books, and then never thought about them again, which means that I remember broad outlines but not a lot of details. Which is why I thought, maybe I’d enjoy the last book more if I re-read the series first. But I also don’t know if I care enough to re-read it.
On the other hand, I just finished reading the entire Murderbot Diaries series and immediately wanted to read them all again, please all of you consider this my strongest recommendation, especially if you like space or sci-fi or robots at all, READ THEM.
Currently craving: In-N-Out. Sigh.
Tagging from my recent activity, low-key and no-pressure: @writeanotherballad, @reddlesisters, @musicfixyou, @kjanem, @beverytender, @rainfordizz, @icantgetnosapphicaction, @thedamncleric, and anyone else who wants to do this. :)
