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I have a bunch of points to make and I am just over-caffienated enough to make this long ass post and not care about the consequences. The facts are as follows:
1. Jeanne D'Arc Alter, Edmond, and a bunch of other Avenger class servants go "link lost" on Ritsuka at the end of OC2. 2. Part 2, The Lostbelts AND The Ordeal Calls end this "Winter". Part 1, i.e. the Singularity arc, ended with a massive fucking battle at the Temple of Time where literally everyone showed up. We have not had that in Part 2 yet. Yes we had ORT but that wasn't the same type of thing as the Temple of Time since it was entirely our own respective rosters doing the fighting. 3. At some point in the initial draft for OC2, per what I hope was a very poor translated famitsu article the Avengers were meant to go Data Lost but one of the lad writers blocked Nasu from doing that because "it would be too sad on top of everything else" yet they still made the Avengers go away.
4. The difference between "Data Lost" and "Link Lost" is important(I'll come back to this. Don't fucking think I won't) 5. What happens when a "Root Class Servant" goes link/data lost?
I will be addressing each of these points as best as I can with my limited knowledge of OC2 and expanding on theories I have discussed with my friends.
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Point 1: This is pretty self explanatory. For some reason during OC2 Edmond, Jeanne Alter, and the Avengers that show up all go Link Lost due to Edmond purposely cutting the link. Why the everloving fuck Edmond would cut the thing linking him to his "Accomplice" I have no idea but I could 100% see him doing it to Protect Ritsuka for whatever reason. I'm sure we'll find out next March. ~~~~~~~~~~ Point 2: This part of FateGOs story is ending soon and we haven't had a massive end all/be all battle yet. Based on what little I've been able to find out its all but guaranteed that there WILL be one and the timeframe seems to be "Winter 2025" (if anyone could provide sources for this I'll buy you a boba.)
Now you might be thinking that ORT was a big final battle but think back to it and how that went down. ORT was a single player raid where you pitted your entire account so far against an enemy that actively reduced the servants you had available. It was a battle of survival and terror. Which is not at all what the Temple of Time was about. Storming the Temple of Time was about finalizing our victory against Goetia and protecting Humanity. It was a grand final battle where everyone, from every event, every singularity, LITERALLY EVERYONE Showed up to finish the fight. We have not had anything like that in Part 2 so far. ~~~~~~~ Points 3 and 4: Per what I was able to find out the "original" version of OC2 had the Avengers going "Data Lost" as opposed to what did happen which was them going "Link Lost". Here is why that difference is FUCKING IMPORTANT.
Think of the Throne of Heroes as an utterly massive hard drive. It contains the records of every hero, anti-hero, villain, and everything inbetween and it is constantly updating itself with new data even if that data is from an alternate dimension or timeline. This is how we got Faerie Britain Morgan La Fae from Lostbelt 6. She died in LB6 and yet somehow we managed to summon her in Proper Human History.
When a Servant goes "Link Lost" what that means is that the connection between the Servant and another thing has been severed but can be reconnected at a later date. Which is opposite of Data Lost. "Data Lost" means that that servants profile IN THE THRONE ITSELF has been lost. This also means that EVERY record of them, be it physical or digital or even the memories of the people who saw them
Are erased. So far we have only seen one Servant go "Data Lost" on us and that was Musashi. We don't know if Ritsuka remembers her at all because for all intents and purposes she has been wiped from the story. The only reason we can use Saber Musashi and her Berserker form is due to gameplay reasons and laws in Japan.
Which leads me to point 5...
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Point 5: What happens when a "Root Class Servant" goes Data Lost? First lets define what I mean by "Root Class Servant". These are Servants who, upon being registered in the Throne, add a new "Folder" to the Thrones database that Mages can summon from. So far I have only been able to pin down two "Root Class Servants" who both are the first servant of their kind and enable Chaldea's summoning system to summon MORE of that class of Servant:
Edmond Dantes and BB. Edmond Dantes, aka Count of Monte Cristo, is the Literal first Avenger Servant we can summon through Chaldeas system. The only reason we can in the first place is the bond that was formed between Edmond and Ritsuka during the whole Hell Tower thing the Goetia put Edmond up to.
literally EVERY Avenger Servant, bar Mainyu because thats its own special kind of bullshit, has been able to have been summoned or have servants change class into them due to Edmond creating a new "folder" in the Throne. ~~~~~ So now that we've covered those five points let ask ourselves this question: What would happen if a "Root Class Servant" were to go Data Lost? If the root of a thing is removed by extension everything after them is removed as well. Which means that if Edmond were to go Data Lost, The avenger class as a whole would cease to exist in Humanities memory due to it being "forgotten" by the Throne.
No Jeanne Alter, No Summer Chloe, No Nito Alter, and no Lobo. It would fundamentally break the game on a story level. Now lets ask ourselves this now: If Edmond were to go away along with the Avenger class as a whole What servant would this also affect that if they vanished and went data lost would throw JP in a fucking frothing mad frenzy and would probably lead to Nasu being stabbed in an alleyway? Nobu. Maou Oda fucking Nobunaga.
Post OC2 Nobu, being an avenger, would also go Link Lost as well due to Edmond vanishing. Given how fucking feral JP is for Nobu how long do you think she can stay gone? Because if Nobu comes back then by extension Edmond Has to as well
Which means EVERYONE else comes back too.
Which leads me to my theory and final statement: Nasu has to bring back the Avengers if only to keep JP from going after his head due to Nobu going away post OC2. The GudaGuda events are beloved on JP and you cannot have a GudaGuda without Nobu. Its like having sushi with no rice. Edmond has a clearly stated flair for the theatrical. so what better time for ALL THE AVENGERS TO COME BACK THAN IN A LITERAL BLAZE OF GLORY WITH EDMOND LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF IN THE VANGUARD than in the final battle happening this Winter.
Happy Jalter Friday, and happy Jalter July! SO unless you are like in my inner circle, surprise! I cooked and wrote like a fic for every week of the month! The first is an AU crossover with 86 (where my pfp is from). Links are below! This month was hard to prep for, haha but now I can give some love to my summer fic. I know one person here is looking forward to thar XD
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
###Jeanne Alter###
What the hell?!
“Shiden, this is a joke, right?” Jeanne Alter spat; she had her legs crossed and her back propped up against her M1A4 Juggernaut. Her emblem, sitting just beside her elbow, was a black dragon consumed with flames, sitting as her personal mark of a fire witch.
It was, however, Bloody Regina who answered. “It is not, Jeanne, we are towing a 155 mm Howitzer out to you, as well as some repair crew, a few trucks of ammunition. We can’t put together a full convoy right now…but it’s the best we can manage under the current circumstances. The northern front is under even heavier pressure, and we can’t spare the trucks or manpower right now.”
Jeanne Alter groaned, “So we make do with what we have, and do our best not to die? Fucking worthless republic pissants.”
On the other side of the pararaid’s resonance, she felt Shiden’s ire grow to a manner that it almost started Jeanne from her current place of comfort. “Disrespect our queen again, and I’ll come over there and take you out myself.”
“Shut up Shiden! My respect for our queen has its limits. Don’t follow blindly and all that!” She clicked her teeth.
Jeanne Alter also grew acutely aware that the Bloody Queen’s eyes seemed to narrow her voice, filling with all that same conviction and determination every 86 was getting used to listening to.. “That’s a fair point, Fire Witch. If you have anything you’d like to suggest, I’m more than willing to listen.”
Her lips twisted more deeply at that, her yellow eyes narrowing towards the ground beneath her boots where she rested. In truth, she didn’t have an answer; broad battlefield tactics weren’t her forte, even though she excelled in second-to-second combat with instincts honed by years on the Western Front.
And that’s when a single thought crossed her mind.
What would he have done?
Her lips twisted even more frustratingly further at the thought of it. That stupid handler of hers, who did everything in his power to keep them alive for as long as possible, even though they were on a unit marked for death. A blind, hopeless fool, she couldn’t help but mock and scorn right back into their resonance every time they connected.
But he never left...
She slammed her head into her palm, “Fine, fine! Give us the damned Howitzer, it's maximum range should be about the same as the legions Scorpions.” She slammed her fist against her juggernaut, ridding herself of the thought of her old handler’s stupid voice.
Cute little thing
Tis' also Jalter July. I won't be doing a drawing challenge like previously but I'll still be throwing out the occasional sketch.
Also for anyone here interested in fanfics, @ageekywriter will be posting a couple this month.
Jalter July day 15
La Grondement Du Haine!
Jalter July day 23
Salter...?
Jalter July day 31
Kiss (continuation of day 23)