#john gillingham

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Philip seeing Richard holding hands with 2 other men that are NOT him: he needs to DIE!!!

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Pope Celestine III and all the Cardinals having to listen to Philip oversharing and complaining about Richard at length: we diagnose you with Jealous Bitch Disease ...go in peace

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Now reading John Gillingham’s article “The Unromantic Death of Richard I” and appreciating his usual Dickriding (ha), but it really is a great work of historical analysis. Great to see an evaluation of the many different sources that record his death, and a more critical look at the political context in which the attack on Chalus-Chabrol took place. Once again the work of the historian is to No Fun Allowed (buried Roman treasure…. Probably FAKE NEWS ), but the idea that the Limousin and the contested loyalties of the lords of Limoges was something that already had conflict, even since 1183, and that carrying over into 1199 is very fascinating.

Also his annoyance at people taking William the Breton’s source at face value is very funny. William

places a 31 line speech explaining why Richard no longer deserved to live. He is greedy, has no respect for God and holy days, breaks treaties made with his lord, and offends against the law of nature

Yeah that IS what Philip’s historian would record lool. Overall, it’s a good paper on talking about how medieval writers loved to turn their historical events into structures of moral narratives—something we still do today of course, and something to keep aware of when looking at our own sources…

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i know we all have a funny laugh about John Gillingham and his yumedanshi Richard Stan tendencies but also having read some of the writings about Richard etc al from the midcentury to the seventies.....wow some ppl were SO annoying. XD I am deeply entertained by the writers who were like "these are my 100% absolute reasons for why the cause was HOMOSEXUALITY" bc it defies the stereotype of the Historians who Deny Everything Ever, but in the other hand so many ppl were SO homophobic and stereotypical pseudo-Freudian bullshit that makes tons of assumptions about people's personal lives with NO basis whatsoever just vibes, if I was Gil I'd become a contrarian too just to spice things up (tho I'm glad Flori also countered him as well)

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pulled up Bradbury's Philip Augustus biography and reading the preface only to get gobsmacked by this

John never misses an opportunity to defend his oshi and take down his NOTP

Jokes aside it is kind of cute the close-knitness of the academics, also now Bradbury is on a mission to praise HIS fave. Doing the upward battle of making his fave likeable

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A new Evil Boyfriend Appears

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i finished Flori's book so now I'm checking out Gillingham to get the Drama ...I've made fun of him a lot bc of how often Flori throws shade in his book but I find his chapter divisions in his book very interesting.

Also this part is hfkajfjd. Richard pulling epic PRANKZ in da holy land (telling Philip his son DIED)

gillingham: your honor I am aware the subject of my book is the center of various Huge Dramas. But HEAR ME OUT–

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Even today many people still believe that in the Middle Ages everyone thought the earth was flat; we live in our own age of faith, the faith that 'we' are superior, more rational than the superstitious people of the past

Danny Danziger and John Gillingham, 1215, p. 227