SN: When I talk about good/bad person, I generally mean in the baseball sense - good teammate, har worker, etc. You are not a fan if, when a player on your favorite team makes an error or gives up the winning run, you don’t grumble a bit, throw your hands in the air, and yell: ‘cooooome oooooon!’ But, how many fans would walk right up to that player and tell him he sucks and you hope he has suicidal thoughts? Not many. And,another thing that I don’t get why fans don’t take into account is when the dude owns up to it - he admits he screwed up and he will do better. I am sure everyone knows about the Jon Rauch Twitter drama. I will admit I yelled out a ‘come on, Jon!!! Argh!!’ when that. HR was hit. And, if Jon had pulled a move like that DB from Atlanta did after ending our season, I would have expressed further displeasure. But, we still have to be humane in our criticism. Part of this is that players are people, as FAFIF points out (link on homepage), but we also have to realize that sometimes the players that are good people and own up to their mistakes often won’t get that venom shot at them, and because they are good people we think they may not deserve it. Fans at times put players in different categories - good dude v not good dude - and that impacts our feelings (and tolerance levels). I will never ever forgive TG for what he said following that implosion; the awful pitching, I can forgive. Not caring? I will NEVER forgive. If I saw him on the street I would tell him exactly that - I still wouldn’t say I hope he chokes on the resin bag, but I would let him know I thought he was a bad person (in the baseball sense). Jon, I forgave his bad pitching; the fact he owned up to it leads me to believe that he doesn’t deserve any more scorn. Yes, he may have gotten and ‘argh’ on Twitter from me, but it was followed by positive reinforcement. So, I think the fact that many came to Jon’s defense speaks to we think he is a good person - he plays hard, cares about his team and takes blame for his mistakes and owns it. I think the key is the fact that players are decent/not decent people makes us like/dislike them more as players. The more you are a teammate, supporting, playing hard, etc - the more fans like you as a player. As fans isn’t that we are supposed to do? No matter how awesome a player is on the field, if he is toxic in the clubhouse, or unsupportive, or claims to be non-blame-worthy, the less chance there is for fans to like you. But, if you are the opposite, and are not necessarily performing, while the fanbase may be disappointed and frustrated, you won’t necessarily be disliked. Look at Ike- most fans like him, and want him to do better, but we know something needs to be done (like go to AAA - see previous post). We are supportive in our push for such a move, but we still express our disappointment, while being supportive at the same time. I am not saying back down from expressing discontent, but take a step back and decide if it was the performance you dislike or the actions of the person. Usually its the performance - so be critical hat, not the person who is doing it (and yesterday, Jon was attacked, not his pitching). And, I challenge anyone who writes hate filled statements (not dissapointment statements, but straight up nastiness), to think before you post: ‘if ths dude were right in front of me, would I say the same thing?’ If not, don’t post it - because you may be the target of the fans who saw the retweet. Stop hiding behind Twitter, facebook, blogs, and say it to his face. I wrote non-positive things about Bay and Ike in particular most recently, and I would gladly share what I wrote with them and would say it to their face. It is constructive criticism, and reality, but still a civil conversation. Man up. **Again, my ‘person’ label is strictly in the baseball sense.