So we all know about Tedgate and how Ted and Lonnie are destined to end up together, but what about Joyce and Karen?? I firmly believe all bylers are destined to happen in one fashion or another. Both Karen and Ted are miserable in their relationship because they married out of obligation rather than love. We all know Ted holds a lot of internalized homophobia around his love for Lonnie. Karen holds a lot of regret after pushing Joyce away.
I made this edit because I miss peak Joyren. 😔🫶

















