i think it's important in the asexual kink discussion to acknowledge that it's not about the lack of touching genitals that makes it not sexual but the clear agreement and communication of it being a nonsexual act for the person involved. of course people can be engaged in play and dynamics that are inherently sexual for them without genitals being involved at all, but like when an asexual person is telling you they don't feel anything sexual and you are telling them that they simply must be, like what are you hoping to accomplish there?










