#laymen

[basicallyanotherwitchesthing]

A.C. Lovelace & W.C. Rice - Music and Worship in the Church - Abingdon Press - 1960

[trapincher0]

I am incapable of not drawing villagers.

[shimeji-mints]

we artists must pose as educated laymen in our daily lives…

[post-authenticity-society]

The only difference between theocracy and theonomy is whether the clergy or the lay are in charge. It is religious government either way.

[justselfindulgence]

Artists are not Amazon, freeloaders, or the top of the capitalist food chain

Typically, the things I share are reflective of what’s going on behind the scenes in my life. Even when I’m just recycling memes I’ve harvested from around social media, they tell a story of where I’m at in my own space and mind. A few months ago, I began the process of writing a new book. For me, that looks a lot like laziness to the untrained eye. You might catch me sitting at a dive bar, people-watching as other humans do the dance of living their life. I observe as they experience birth and death, loss and grief, celebration and joy, romance and sex.

I like this. but I have thoughts. I feel like, I'm a lot less hostile to people (usually). But I think it's because literary art is approached differently than visual arts with laypeople. *Anecdotally* Authors are not met with as much 'talent over skill’ rhetoric in my opinion. Nor, do I think, especially in the wake of ai-generated images and ai generated text, the idea of replacing authors had as much vial and gleeful vitriol behind it. I do think instead authors get a casual disregard for their abilities. The opposite of of visual artists. My hard earned skill is a magical gift from a higher power. Every dummy on the internet thinks they can write a book. The constant belittling can wear anyone's patience thin. But there's still a casual disregard for what I and my friends and colleagues bring to the table. I often chalk this up to focusing and promoting STEM over any and all humanities sending us into a nightmare spiral of capitalist obsessive efficiency over human condition and the exploration thereof. There's a disconnect between the actual time and effort too. To relate to the author's achingly exhausted response to "Oh I want to write a book!" from well meaning people, (though I don't run into  many arrogant people that style themselves geniuses that just want to hear their own voice) there's an ignorance of the actual efforts involved and when there's not ignorance kind of a disdain. I know, teaching art, just basic drawing. The actual shock and sometimes horror when I told people, that a finished work at their level, should take a minimum of 3 or 4 hours. Isn't art just a fun thing to do for a hobby? And yes, it can be. I do think the author is a little harsh. Not everyone that writes or makes visual art wants to be a professional or an expert. Some people want to doodle or color or write the mushiest fluff fanfic. And that's fine's actually. I think it's fine for people to ask questions.  I agree with the author, he's not setting the right boundaries or maybe I'm exceptionally good at cutting off conversations I don't want to have. ( I understand though... if someone can’t take a hint about you being out on your own time after a soft rebuff... oof.) I disagree that there are proprietary secretes at all. Part of the amusement of the aitext and imagery evangelists rhetoric about democratizing art... is it already is. Proko, Ctrl+Paint, Feng Zhu, James Gurney all free, in depth professional info from professionals for free. My problem isn't sharing with my fellow artists or them sharing with me. It's laypeople undervaluing our time and what we're worth. I only need look at my experience and my partner's. My family has been paying me for labor since I was a child, and I'm very thankful for it. I have never been made to feel my time, energy and /labor/ are owed to /anyone/. My art was always a separate labor from regular chores. My profession was not my duty. I want to say more. I have a lot to say about a lot of things. About art. What it means to be an artist, especially an independent one, right now. But it's just a post and maybe the author is most correct about "the line between being patronizing and patronizing is razor f+cking thin."

[tonreihe]

“Just As Bad”

Non-Catholics say that Catholic laymen are led by the nose by the clergy;

Catholic laymen are not led by the nose by the clergy.

As a matter of fact Catholic laymen are led by the nose by non-Catholics.

Catholic laymen are the imitators of non-Catholics.

Catholic laymen consider themselves just as good as non-Catholics.

Catholic laymen should tell non-Catholics “We are just as bad as you are.”

[salmankhanholics]

★ Only laymen in Bigg Boss 10?

[nickkahler]

Those who dwell, as scientists or laymen, among the beauties and mysteries of the earth are never alone or weary of life. Whatever the vexations or concerns of their personal lives, their thoughts can find paths that lead to inner contentment and to renewed excitement in living. Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.

Rachel Carson, The Sense of Wonder, 1965