#lelca

[gauntletgirlie]

heyyy, my final end terms are happening so im popping in quick to leave a small ques for u: what are your thoughts on ungoliant? And lets say if it ever comes down to lelca vs ungoliant, how will that play out, considering we already know lelca can her the spider but the spider is (was atleast at that moment) overwhelming more powerful than lelca.

Hello, hello! Good luck with your final end terms, I’m sure you’ll ace them.

Oooh, another brilliant question that I had asked myself at the time of writing that chapter. Ungoliant is a primordial entity that Tolkien didn’t really expound too much upon. Where did she really come from? What exactly was she? No one really knows. I personally believe she exists outside of what Eru created and is the antithesis to the flame imperishable. I headcanon that she came down to Arda once she saw all that had been created, almost like a moth to a flame. I think consuming what was created and choosing a spider form changed her from what she had been before. Melkor did scare her at one time and she’s also fearful of Manwë and Varda, so she can feel fear, but it’s her hunger that defines her, it’s her driving force.

After a good bit of thinking, I believe there are a few possible outcomes for the 1v1 scenario (potential spoilers for my fanfic under the cut).

Either Ungoliant would physically consume Lelca and then she would be trapped inside the dark and what happened to her in the dungeon after Melkor threw her in there for 300 years would happen again; she wouldn’t die but barely exist until freed/rescued.

They are in a stalemate in which Lelca is constantly feeding her light to Ungoliant who is constantly consuming it. Lelca would in turn need to consume light from life around her to maintain her own output and would in effect become a conduit.

Following on from the previous scenario: in this way, Ungoliant would eat everything via Lelca and be left with no choice but to consume herself when nothing else remained as she does in canon. Probably after she’s eaten Lelca as well, but then Lelca would survive because she has no other choice, the flame imperishable won’t let her die because it is her and it cannot perish.

Lelca would feed Ungoliant so much light that the great spider would be over-indulged and either go into a food-coma which would last for a long time and Lelca could escape or try to destroy her by other means, or Ungoliant would burst with engorgement and die that way.

Hopefully that answers your question!