Kallus/Zeb/Jovan (another long post. sorry. reyna writes a post shorter than 500 words challenge level: impossible)
Ok, so I don't know if there are many witchy people in this side of the fandom, but I thought it'd be fun to share this. I'm finally sitting down to learn tarot, I've always wanted to learn tarot but I never got around to it and now I'm using it as an escape from ✨️the horrors✨️. One of the ways to learn tarot and to learn what the cards mean is to practice simple pulls on fictional characters and I thought I'd try to get a little look at Kallus and Zeb and Jovan just to see what was going on with all of them and it was neat so, I'll share. For fun.
So I did a simple past-present-future pull for each character (3 cards) then a general relationship pull (6 cards) for Kallus/Zeb and Kallus/Jovan to see what was going on.
So for Jovan, Present was at the time of his arrest and past and future are on the other sides of that event.
Past: The Chariot (reversed)
Present: Knight of Wands (upright)
Future: 10 of Pentacles (reversed)
So, he starts out with no direction. The Chariot reversed is someone who's lost, and confused, this energy is a shaky foundation, or rather, no foundation at all - a very bad place for someone to start in his life. If he did used to have direction, he's lost it. The Knight of Wands is a card that appears to be heroic, but he doesn't have a lot of control over himself. He can pull off heroic feats, but he's reckless and impatient and he leaves a mess for others to clean up. He charges ahead despite obstacles, which sounds heroic, but he does it because he's unwilling to listen to others and change direction. His life from his arrest on doesn't seem great. It's the 10 of Pentacles reversed. Pentacles represent the earth and all things material or financial. I don't know if/when he'll get out of prison but when he does, all his success will be fleeting. He can't see the forest for the trees and without a solid foundation, there's nothing for him to build something for himself. There's no stability and no way for him to hold onto what little successes he manages to scrape together. 10 of pentacles can also represent family and some kind of falling out within that family, likely over money or inheritance, some kind of dishonor on the family - we don't know anything about Jovan's life outside of Kallus though, so that's just speculation.
For Kallus and Zeb, Present was that gap between season 3 and 4.
Past: The Tower (reversed)
Present: Judgement (reversed)
Future: Wheel of Fortune (upright)
The Tower is one of the most intense (read: worst) cards you can pull from the deck, honestly. The Tower represents destruction and cataclysmic failure but reversed, it means resisting change and delaying the inevitable. It also means circumventing further destruction. Alexsandr, in his past, is stubbornly refusing to change, likely out of fear, but change is coming for him anyway. The change that's coming is a way to avert incoming disaster. The Tower reversed is the existential crisis card. Calling into question the belief systems and institutions you once trusted. It's destruction that clears the way for new growth. Judgement reversed is guilt and self-doubt. Others are judging him harshly, there's malicious gossip and scorn, he's judging himself harshly as well, but he has to find a way to ignore it and better himself internally. He may look back on his past and hate what he sees and because of that he's having trouble seeing the lessons that he needs to learn. Future looks a lot better than his past. The Wheel of Fortune can be considered good luck. It mainly represents the cycles of life and that the universe is working in your favor. What goes up, goes back down, what has fallen, can rise again, and so on. It's cyclical. The rest of his cards, in my mind represent his military career, so if I look at the wheel of fortune, the Empire is defeated, yay!, but the First Order will eventually take its place. He's had to struggle, but he's made decisions to better himself and the universe will reward him in his life, but the wheel will continue to turn as well.
Past: The Hierophant (reversed)
Present: Page of Swords (upright)
Future: The World (reversed)
The Hierophant is a figure closely associated with traditional values and practices, but reversed, he's someone who forges his own path and relies on inner strength and lives outside of rigid social structure. He seeks out opportunity to rebel. He questions society and isn't afraid to face down traditional institutions. There may, however, be lingering feelings of guilt for leaving behind his traditional practices. In the court cards, the Page is often called the student, the learner, or the child of the court. In the present, he's restless. Always ready to go, always good for a debate, and eager - if a little overenthusiastic at times. His future card is the World reversed. The world is a positive card, but reversed it means that something personal from your past is nagging at you. Life may otherwise be good, but this one thing just won't leave you alone. I read this as either Lasan, which I doubt will ever let him go, or Ezra. He wants the answers or closure on this one thing but he either isn't doing the work to close it out, or it's something he can't finish.
For the relationship pull I did six cards each.
The energy someone is consciously taking into the relationship
The subconscious energy someone is taking into the relationship
The energy the other person is taking into the relationship
The subconscious energy the other person is taking into the relationship
The energy both members have when they're together
The outcome of the relationship
The energy Alexsandr took into the relationship: 3 of Cups (upright)
The subconscious energy Alexsandr brings into the relationship: Knight of Wands (reversed)
The energy Jovan took into the relationship: Page of Cups (reversed)
The subconscious energy Jovan brings into the relationship: 5 of Wands (upright)
Their energy together: Page of Swords (reversed)
Outcome of the relationship: 2 of Cups (reversed)
The 3 of Cups is happiness and joy and community. Alexsandr was happy entering into the relationship, he had a genuine connection with Jovan and felt secure with him. Whether you see it as a romantic or a platonic relationship (find me someone who thinks they didn't date) Alexsandr was happy in it. I talked about the Knight of Wands above, with Jovan, but here it's reversed. While upright, the Knight of Wands seems heroic, if unaware, but reversed its completely out of control. He's rash, he's impulsive, he's so fixated on his goals and what he wants that he can't see what he's burning down around him to get there. He has to learn to control himself if he wants to keep what he has, but he can't. He's too easily carried away. Jovan enters the relationship too insecure. Even if he hides it, he's deeply emotional, which is a blessing and a curse, but he's emotionally immature at the same time. He takes obstacles and rejection too personally. This is also something he has to learn to avoid. The underlying energy he brings with him is the 5 of Wands. Working together might bring success, but he's unable. Alexsandr is lashing out energetically, Jovan is taking it personally and the 5 of wands is all about competition, so when neither of them address the underlying issues, and Jovan is too combative, they end up fighting.
Their energy together is the page of swords. Here is a card where the sword acts like a sword. They're lashing out at each other. Page of Swords is all deception and manipulation. They're both sharp and aimed at each other. Their lack of maturity makes them unable to see the pain they're inflicting on one another and they can't reconcile because all their negative attributes are coming to the surface. They bring out the worst in each other. The outcome is the 2 of Cups reversed. They could have had balance. They could have been good for each other. They could have helped each other. Instead, their energies are repelling each other. They're out of balance, there's too much tension, and communication has broken down completely. They could've had a future, but instead they're breaking apart.
The energy Alexsandr took into the relationship: Hanged Man (reversed)
The subconscious energy Alexsandr brings into the relationship: 4 of Pentacles (upright)
The energy Zeb took into the relationship: 6 of Wands (reversed)
The subconscious energy Zeb brings into the relationship: 4 of Swords (reversed)
Their energy together: Ace of Swords (upright)
Outcome of the relationship: Temperance (upright)
When I did this pull, I did it over the relationship in general, I didn't specify their romantic relationship, so it starts when they first met.
So, Hanged Man reversed. Alexsandr is stuck, or stalling. He's put a lot of work into something and none of it is paying off the way he thought that it would and he's getting impatient and irritated. He's jumping from bad situation to bad situation and he's refusing to stop and listen. Upright, its sacrificing who you are to become who you need to be - reversed, it's an inability to surrender his ego, and being stuck as a result. Subconsciously, he's clinging too hard to a sense of security - even if he's no longer secure. He's isolated and controlling with severe past issues he's not doing anything to fix. As for Zeb, he enters the relationship disadvantaged. He's lost battles/is losing battles, literally, since the first time they met face to face Zeb quite literally lost. He's lacking in confidence either because he's losing or that lack of confidence is causing his repeated losses. He feels like he's being hunted. Subconsciously, he's starting to rejoin the world. He's starting to step out of a period of loneliness and starting to heal. I know this isn't a timeline pull, but I feel like this card (4 of swords) is connected directly to finding Lira San. Mental strength, awakening, and healing after being alone for so long. And this would tie into the relationship, of course, because Alexsandr was a key member of that Lasat prophecy.
Their energy together is the Ace of Swords. So swords represent anything intangible, they're connected to air. So thought, intellect, communication, etc., anything having to do with the mind. Aces represent beginnings. So the Ace of Swords, when it's the two of them combined, leads to a breakthrough. They bring each other mental clarity and help each other make the right decisions. The Ace of Swords is a realization of the truth and a new beginning. The outcome of the relationship is Temperance upright. Temperance represents balance, peace, patience, and moderation. In relationships temperance is one of the best cards you can get: it signifies soulmates. They balance each other, they're in perfect harmony, walk in step with each other. Temperance is contentment and satisfaction with who you are and what values you hold. They balance each other, but are satisfied to hold each other balanced as well.
Now, like I said, I'm new at reading Tarot, and I'm still heavily reliant of guides and other sources and stuff, so this may not be perfect, but, I don't think it's too bad. So be nice. But I thought all this stuff was interesting and I thought people might be interested in it. So enjoy.
kalluzeb soulmates, canon.
also if you read this far I made banana muffins you can have one if you want.
