I've done a full translation of the new 🔴🟢 rumor, as it's hard to get a full translation these days.
I've added a bit of commentary here and there of my take on things, although by now most of you have probably already read the main theories.
Happy BXG day! Turtles eat well! 💛.
Overall, the thing I love most about 🔴🟢 rumors is that I get to enjoy GGDD bickering, the one thing I miss more than anything else about seeing them together. 🥲
Part 1
🔴 Let's eat from the iron pot place.
🟢 What kind of pot do you want?
🔴 Same as before.
👱 I'll order.
🔴 Can I...
🟢 ... add an extra serving of the green flower rolls?
👱 No white ones?
🔴 Eating green helps with weight control.
🟢 That's nonsense.
🔴 You're no help.
👱 Then I'll switch everything to green.
🔴 Don't! She had the white one last time. If you switch, she won't have any.
👱 Alright.
Just GG and DD finishing each other's sentences and bickering as usual, with GG being considerate of others as is his way.
Part 2
🔴 What are you doing, sneaking around?
👧🏼 We're not coming back next time.
🔴 😊.
🔴 Need an autograph?
👧🏼 No no no, see you at the venue.
🔴 Then why are you here?
👧🏼 Just taking a quick look.
🔴 Aren’t you seeing it next month anyway?
👧🏼 Hmm.
🔴 I’ll help you take a look in a bit.
👧🏼 You want to go in?
🟢 Look at what?
👧🏼 XX was just looking for you.
🟢 Hey, they called, are you going?
🔴 Where to?
🟢 What do you think?
🔴 What? Did you bring your laptop? Can I borrow a charger?
👧🏼 It's in my bag. How could I not bring my rice bowl when going out?
🔴 Then lend me your bowl. I’ll wash it and return it after using.
🔴 It’s fine, really.
🟢 You're so generous.
🔴 Smile!
🟢 Hey.
🔴 I’m off, cheer up.
🟢 Come back.
🔴 I really gotta go, waiting for the charger.
🟢 You really need it that bad that you're coming to get it yourself?
🔴 Argh, I’m going. Don’t be annoying. If I find out I'll beat you.
🟢 Fine.
Most people believe this part and the next one are from the Tencent Awards. See, those of you who worry about never seeing them together at events anymore - they're always together backstage, and often we get a glimpse like this!
Rice bowl is a slang/figure of speech representing one's livelihood, so the staff member was saying she wouldn't dare leave the house without something that important (but apparently GG would!) 😅
Part 3
🟢 What are you rambling about.
👩 Where did you just go.
🟢 Didn't do anything.
👩 Just chilling.
👧🏼 Boss, you guys go ahead, I’m gonna blow this place up.
🟢 You got a bomb or something?
👧🏼 And take my brother-in-law with me while I’m at it.
🟢 You don’t want your job anymore?
👧🏼 It’s for you guys.
🟢 😂😂😂
👩 Did you eat some mushrooms?
👧🏼 Will eating mushrooms make you explode?
🟢 Did you drink something?
🟢 Wait, what did you just say? What are you looking at?
👧🏼 Looking at the guy in the suit.
🟢 Who here isn’t the guy in the suit?
👧🏼 Fair point. I need to go to the bathroom.
👩 To plant the bomb, huh.
👧🏼 See you all in the next life!
🟢 😂😂😂
The theory is that the staff member is talking about blowing things up because of the whole seat number issue. 😅
Part 4
🟢 Does this color look the same to you
👱♂️ Nope, not even the same color family
🟢 But it's the same item
👱♂️ Hmm…
👱♂️ Can you return it?
👱♂️ Otherwise just sell it second-hand
🟢 It’s brand new, just arrived today
👱♂️ Is there no one home?
🟢 No one
👱♂️ Then return it quick, hahaha
🟢 Sell it to you
👱♂️ With that size, I'd have to tear down a wall at home
🟢 I should have known to get a smaller one
👱♂️ You should’ve known not to buy it in the first place
🟢 There’s never an opportunity to spend money
👱♂️ Don't get scolded
🟢 Fine
DD's neverending string of bad purchases! 😅
Part 5
🔴 A new person here?
🟢 Da-ge, we came in together
👩 XX took a leave of absence, she’s here to help ship stuff
🔴 Oh, I thought I was gonna get another red envelope
🟢 I don’t mind if you give me one
🔴 I mind
Part 6
🟢 It’s freezing outside
🔴 Go stand in the corner then
🟢 Why? What kind of society still makes people face the wall
🔴 Aren’t you cold? Over there it’s 90 degrees, you’ll sweat
🟢 Did it yesterday
🔴 You didn’t check the group, did you
🟢 Nope
🔴 What, can’t bear to use your data?
🟢 Tsk
🔴 Da-ge, the window decals faded from the sun, the whole window’s stained. Won’t even wipe off. I told you yesterday before I left
🟢 Wow, and I asked you if it was OK
🔴 I told you yesterday
🟢 You said you’d fix it next time you came back
🔴 So?
🟢 You didn’t come back, so I did it yesterday
🔴 Okay okay okay
🟢 Yeah
🔴 Yeah my ass
🟢 Leave it, Mom will clean it up
🔴 😏😏😏 You gonna use your magic gadget?
🟢 Come on, you really have to bring this up every year
👩 😂.
🟢 Doesn’t even suck properly, haha
🔴 If you don’t know how to buy, just don’t buy it
🔴 Do you even know how many layers that glass has?
🟢 Okay, enough
🔴 🙄.
🟢 Tch
🔴 Tch tch tch! What are you tch-ing about, sing it then
🟢 I tch-tch with feeling…
🔴 🤭.
GG's hilarious bad dad joke (it's 90 degrees in the corner, you'll sweat!), and never letting DD live the whole magic window cleaning robot thing down. 😅
Part 7
👩 Spring’s coming
🔴 You writing an essay or something?
👩 Huh?
🔴 Thought you were gonna follow that up with “all things are waking up”
👩 It's written on this card
👩 I'm heading back to work
🔴 You going on a business trip alone?
👩 Yeah, first time I’ve gone solo
🔴 When are you heading back?
👩 Leaving soon. Come on, let me take a photo
🔴 What, gotta file a report or something?
👩 Isn’t that what all delivery riders do?
👱♂️ Not all of them fly in like you
👩 Luxury-tier delivery rider, you wouldn’t understand
🔴 Let me reimburse your travel expenses
👩 Extra?
🔴 Yeah
👩 Made a profit, hahahaha
🔴 Asking questions you already know the answer to
👩 Let’s keep it factual. We’re heading out
🔴 Thanks for your hard work
👩 You worked even harder
🔴 I’ll treat you to a meal when I’m back
👩 Even more profit for me
🔴 Stay safe
👩 Okk
GG with his witty banter and good boss vibes! He's so hilarious and good-hearted. ❤️.
Part 8
🔴 Is it done on XX's end?
👩 Not yet, we’re missing a time slot. They want us to decide morning or afternoon
🔴 Why am I the one stressing then
🟢 You’re pushing harder than I am
🔴 Afternoon, I guess
👩 Alright, I’ll tell them
🔴 Are you done playing? I gotta go
🟢 Not done
🔴 Even if you’re not done, I still gotta go
🟢 You told me to play
🔴 Come on, people are waiting
🟢 Then why did you let me play
🔴 If I let you play, then yeah, that’s my bad
🟢 It is
🔴 What now
🟢 Not playing anymore
🔴 Send your stuff over once you're done, I'll check it later
🟢 Got it
DD playing a game on GG's phone, and he can't leave until he gets his phone back. 😅
Closing Message
Happy 95!!! Happy Birthday 🎈
It’s been a long time since we last met.
As for lately, those who know, know.
I hope you’re even happier, even more blessed.
After all, from the very beginning,
all I ever wanted
was for you to be happy.
Wishing you:
Joy,
Every day,
And peace in all things.
There is a turtle theory that the section at the end of each message is written by GG as his wishes for us.
🔴 Let’s eat iron pot stew (铁锅炖).
🟢 What kind?
🔴 Same as last time.
👨 I’ll order.
🔴 Can we…
🟢 Add a portion of green flower rolls (花卷).
👨 Don’t want the white ones?
🔴 Eating green helps control weight better.
🟢 Nonsense.
🔴 Not as much nonsense as you.
🟢 casually finishing 🔴’s sentence because OF COURSE the husband knows what 🔴 wants.
The green flower rolls:
🟢 Do these two colors look the same?
👨 Not the same, they’re not even in the same tone.
🟢 They’re similar.
👨 Hmm…
👨 Can it be returned?
👨 Otherwise sell it as second-hand.
🟢 It’s new, just arrived today.
👨 Nobody home?
🟢 No one.
👨 Then hurry up and return it, hahaha.
🟢 I’ll sell it to you.
👨 This size, I’d have to tear down a wall at home.
🟢 Should’ve bought a smaller one.
👩🦱 Yeah, should never have bought it in the first place.
🟢 I don’t have many chances to spend money anyway.
👩🦱 Don’t mock me.
🟢 Oh.
rich dude right here 😉 I guess 🔴 does truly hold the purse.
🟢 It’s really cold outside.
🔴 Go stand in the corner.
🟢 Why? What society still makes people face the wall?
🔴 Aren’t you cold? It’s 90 degree there, won’t you get warm?
What are they? 10 🤣🤣
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🔴 New person?
🟢 Dage, when did you come together?
👱♀️ xx took last-minute leave, she came to help send things.
🔴 Oh, I thought there’d be another red envelope.
🟢 I don’t mind if you give me one.
🔴 I mind 🙄
Same old bickering 😉
🔴 Okay, stop.
🟢 Mm.
🔴 🙄
🟢 Tsk.
🔴 Tsk tsk tsk, what are you tsking 👊
🟢 I’m just tsk-tsking.
🔴 🙄🙄
Only they can understand and tolerate each other 😆🥰
🔴“it’s ok~”
🟢“u have such a big heart”
🔴“come, give a smile~”
🟢“pi”
🔴“i’m going, cheer up~”
🟢“come back”
👱🏻♀️“boss, y’all leave, i’m going to blow this place up”
🟢“u brought a bomb?”
👧"Take brother-in-law with you"
🟢"Then you don't want your leave anymore"
👧"For you guys" (to blow that place)
🟢 "😂😂😂"…..
👱♀️"Go plant the bomb"
👧"See you all in the next life"
🟢 "😂😂😂"
Some ppl mentioned that this must be the discussion post WB 2025 night. The staff was pissed and wanted to bomb the place.
🔴“are u done with ur game? i have to leave when ur done”
🟢“not yet”
🔴“i have to go even if ur not done”
🟢“ur the one who let me play”
🔴“but others are waiting”
🟢“then why did u let me play”
🔴“i’m wrong for letting u play?”
🟢“yes”
🔴“what do u want”
🟢“i’ll stop playing”
It seems 🦁 is playing on 🐰's phone and doesnt want him to leave.
Happy 95!! Happy Birthday 🎈
It’s been a long time since we met.
Recently, well, you know, you know it all.
Wishing you more happiness, more blessings.
After all, from the very beginning,
just hoped you could be happy.
㊗️ Wishing you:
Happiness, Everyday, And peace in everything.
This message seems to be from 🐰 as it has same wishes as his birthday.
Source: X
The translations and interpretations are not mine. Please refer to the source. I will upload the rest when I come across a good translation. The apps are butchering the sense of conversation when translating.
Who else wants to rehash LRLG highlights? Because I do!!!
I have been having a really shitty month so far (and I'm a Leo so this month should be a happy exciting one!! Sigh) and today I hit several walls with some doctor visits and just needed something to get me through the day.
I came on to ask for your favorite inspiring quotes/moments from YiZhan and instead I got LRLG??!!!!!!! Best cheer to inject into this shitty day.
I love the quotidian nature of LRLG, the day-to-day of shared life and of people intersecting. There's always some sweetness, and yet the sweetest parts are often the most mundane.
That said, Yibo has some incredibly romantic things to say in these snippets??!!! 😳😳
There are a lot of sweet moments in here (DD being in awe of GG's beauty! DD has never been more relatable haha!) but just to pick out a few:
(Gonna put these in my own words/with my own interpretation; you know the drill, these conversations are often hard to parse anyway, and I am not a native speaker!)
DD wanting GG to visit, and saying that if GG forgets something when he comes (I took this as, "who cares about packing, just come"), they can just buy it. We don't get GG's reply, but based on context I implied that GG teases him, "oh really, NOTHING is missing at all, you have EVERYTHING?" And DD says, "You're missing; I can't buy you [at the store]."
🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
And then when DD and staff are talking about a staff member's partner/relationship. Lots of teasing; I'm so glad he has this camaraderie around him. One staff member teases him that we can't all have the idyllic romance DD and GG do, and DD answers back with seriousness that I really loved:
Do your relationship in the way that makes you two feel comfortable. Work through your differences, and the rest will slot into place.
🥹💛💛💛
It's encouraging to me that even when my own life and health are going poorly, there are moments of joy and happiness for people who deserve it, and queer couples having healthy, growing relationships.
May DD always have this hopeful light inside him burning brightly, and may he and GG always have what they need to work through their differences and through the hardships they encounter in life.
I also love how they both make an effort to meet in the middle. That's how healthy relationships are done! GG travels to see DD, and DD takes care of him with time to rest and a neck massage ❤️💛💚.
One day all queer folks will get to live openly. I truly believe that.
Commentary ~ Little Red Little Green Episode 29, “The Soup Saga”
Link to original post in Chinese, posted 2022/07/17.
Link to official English translation.
(Disclaimer / Notes + Commentary under the cut!)
Disclaimer / Notes:
While the posts by Little Red Little Green (LRLG) are among my most favourite candies, they are also fake rumours, ie, all CPN below!
The English translation linked above is the only one authorised by the Fake Rumour House; therefore, please treat the content below as a very casual, very *unofficial* convo between fellow turtle friends, and please, do not move it from this platform. ❤️💛💚
Episode 29 had an interesting characteristic that hadn’t been apparent in past LRLG episodes — more than being a compilation of often unrelated tidbits of convo, this episode had a story arc buried within these tidbits.
This story arc, which was about Gg travelling to Dd’s place to drink soup, is the focus of the commentary. The translations below, therefore, covers only the relevant parts of the original rumour; the full text can be found in the official translation. Hopefully, though, the “piecemeal” approach here will manage to make the story more clear.
Okay, with all that said *phew* … onto the commentary!
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Part 1: The (Not) Seduction, or, in which Dd really, really didn’t care if Gg would come visit
Scene I:
💚: What are you laughing at?
💚: It’s alright, just a little too hot.
💚: Then you go bury himself in the fridge.
💚: * Sighs * (You) have time to play, but don’t have time to come see me.
💚: Fine, don’t come.
Maybe Dd sent Gg some photos from his film set and Gg thought Dd looked funny and started laughing? Anyway, it was hot where Dd was shooting — timing wise, Dd should be working on One and Only, in Hangzhou that was VERY HOT this summer, not just a little. Gg probably complained about being hot where he was as well (Beijing), and Dd helpfully suggested Gg to go bury himself in the fridge (which is, in all fairness, a common enough suggestion to complaints of heat).
Gg must have told Dd about something he had done for fun — timing size, this should be after he had wrapped up the filming of his latest series. Dd * sighed * then and mused, Gg had time to have fun, but no time to visit him. The language-y thing to note about what Dd said here was… in its original Chinese text, he didn’t addressed Gg directly; Chinese syntax allowed him to say what he said without using “you”, which English syntax didn’t. This indirect way of expressing his wish — the direct way would have been “Gg, you come see me” — along with the * sigh *, made Dd sound more sad-puppy than his words might have sounded resentful.
Gg probably explained why he had to stay in Beijing (work obligations, perhaps?) and Dd had to maintain his dignity — how could Gg reject a sad puppy? And so he was like, fine, I don’t care. * insert likely indignant puppy huff here *.
Scene II:
💚: This is probably chicken breast? Or something? It’s got no flavour.
💚: This soup is delicious.
💚: I searched, there are no locations in Beijing.
💚: Well, it isn’t a chain.
💚: Then, why don’t you find time to come here and drink some soup?
💚: Drink soup! So don’t come if you don’t want to drink it.
Dd is never one to give up! The sad puppy-ness failed to work in Scene I; so this scene introduced the second weapon of seduction: food.
From a bystander’s perspective, the food … didn’t sound promising. The original text actually didn’t make clear at all that the flavourless-chicken-breasty-something was * not * part of the supposedly tasty soup. It could’ve been a separate dish, but the first time I read it, I thought the flavourless-chicken-breasty-something was part of the soup. I imagined Dd spooning the meat, having a taste of it while talking to Gg, before finishing the liquid part of the soup.
Personally, I would be suspicious … very, very suspicious about the quality of a soup with flavourless meat-like things floating in it.
But hey, what do I know? Because ...
Gg was interested! (!!!!!) He must have asked about the restaurant the soup was bought from, because Dd claimed the restaurant had no locations in Beijing — it wasn’t a chain. Given the lack of local access to this piece of fine cuisine, didn’t it make complete logical sense, then, for Dd to subsequently ask Gg: would you like to come (to Hangzhou) and try the soup?
Alas, such a logical flow of dialogue Dd had going, and still, it failed to escape Gg that that an ulterior motive might have existed for Dd to make that suggestion. This suspicion by Gg likely led to Dd insisting: Drink Soup! (That’s what you’ll be here for! Visiting me isn’t part of it!) and to preserving his dignity again, with: if you don’t want to drink the soup, then don’t come * insert another likely sad puppy huff here *.
Some c-turtles wondered if Dd could’ve been drinking Hangzhou’s famous 蒓菜湯. Personally, I’m leaning towards a no because 蒓菜 (the green veggie) has an okra-like sliminess, which Dd would likely have noted.
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Part 2: Victory!
👨 = TM1 (Team Member 1)
👩 = TM2 (Team Member 2)
👨: (He) can come?
💚: ☺️ (He) can.
👩: How can it be for soup drinking.
💚: It’s just too hot.
Well, apparently, flavourless-chicken-breasty-something tasty soup was gourmet enough to lure Gg over to Hangzhou (reminder: Gg is a picky, picky eater). Gg was coming! How happy was Dd? The smile emoji said it all (Tumblr would not let me post the original emoji, which was very Dd)(Many emojis are very Dd). TM2 pointed out the (VERY) obvious: Gg’s real reason for visiting had nothing to do with the soup. Dd, who just said in Scene 1 that it was just a little hot where he was, suddenly decided then that where he was was too hot ... for his visitor, one can only assume.
(Dd, how many pieces of white hair have you gained this summer?)
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Part 3: The Very Complex Rituals of Soup Drinking
Gg was in town! Soup drinking, as it turned out, involved much more than spooning flavoured liquid into one’s mouth for these two. The following serves as a sample of what constituted Gg’s and Dd’s Very Complex Rituals of Soup Drinking.
i. Packing a Whole House and Bringing it Over
💚: (You) brought (our) home over.
❤️: I’m bringing you clothes. I’ll take (home) what you have. You keep these.
❤️: Here’s a box of local speciality. XX’s gift. I can’t finish it at home.
Awwww. Imagine Dd’s room piled high with clothes from home and food and everything Gg imagined Dd might need, even if once in a blue moon ... plus “cute” decorations like the “Garlic Q” merchandise.
蒜Q “Garlic Q” (pronounced “Suan Q”) is a near-homophone of the popular internet slang 栓Q (pronounced “Shuan Q”), which is itself the near-homophone of ... believe it or not, “Thank You” in English. When Chinese netizens say 栓Q, they mean “thank you” in a sarcastic way. The near-homophone joke plus the sheer unsightliness of this garlic makes this a very, * very * Gg thing.
ii. Teasing
Soup drinking requires warm-up exercises for the mouth, I suppose?
❤️: Why are you looking at me?
💚: I can’t look?
❤️: Can you get full looking at me?
💚: I can.
❤️: I can’t get full looking at you. I’m hungry.
Those who’ve watched CQL’s BTS and promotional material probably remembers the way Dd always looked at Gg. This tiny piece of convo harks back to that Dd who couldn’t stop looking at Gg, and Gg teased him. “To look at something until the looker is full” is a common phrase in Chinese, meaning to look at something for all it is worth. When that something is someone, it’s strongly implied that that someone is exceptionally attractive. This sentiment — that looking at physical attractiveness can stave off hunger — is an old one: an ancient idiom, 秀色可餐 beauty that can be consumed as meals, describes exactly the same thing.
Now, take what I just said, and interpret what Gg said to Dd in the end (OUCH Gg!!).
(Because Chinese culture isn’t praise-heavy compared to, for example, American culture, Gg’s response is more playful teasing than being mean. In the BTS, as well as other LRLGs, Gg has consistently delayed / withheld expected praises for Dd as a way of play.)
(My parents does the exact same thing to me 😂.)
iii. Spit-fire bantering
Another mouth warm-up exercise for soup drinking ...
(Yeah, I know, I know, there are other ways to do mouth warm-ups. We’re keeping this G-rated here, all right? 😛)
To preserve the rhythm of the following banter, I’m translating it with minor sacrifices to semantic and grammatical accuracy and instead, with emphasis on the curtness of each line, and the way Gg and Dd mirrored each other in phrasing to keep the pace fast.
💚: What are you doing?
❤️: Secret.
💚: Then I know.
❤️: Know what. You don’t know.
💚: Fine fine fine. I don’t know.
❤️: You real-know or fake-know?
💚: I real-know.
❤️: How do you know?
💚: I just know.
❤️: Then you don’t know.
💚: Right right right. I don’t know. Don’t know.
❤️: What’s wrong with you, young child?
💚: What’s wrong with you, old child?
❤️: I’m leaving.
💚: * laughs *
❤️: You’ve got too much time on your hands.
💚: I’m wrong I’m wrong I’m wrong.
(And here’s the most ... pointless convo I have the honour of posting in this blog.)
iv. Getting Ass-On-Fire Furious
Chinese culinary art is big on the idea of 火候, the amount of fire 火 the chef puts into the dish. Too little, and the food fails to release its fragrance and takes in flavour; too much, and it’s burnt, tough, and its original flavours gone.
So here’s Gg, bringing fire into the soup-drinking rituals ...
👩 = TM2 (Team Member 2)
💚: Why do you keep moving? Move again, and you’ll fall off.
❤️: Ass on fire.
💚: Oh, don’t irk you, right?
❤️: 😒
💚: Still irking.
👩: Why don’t you two research on what to have for dinner?
❤️: I’m full with anger.
👩: If you don’t want to go out, we can buy dinner in advance.
❤️: Let’s eat out. It’s on me, but he’s paying.
💚: I didn’t say it’s on you and you’re paying!
❤️: I can’t stay here any longer.
👩: Me too.
💚: 😳
👩: I’m full already.
❤️: Blame him.
💚: This is blamable?
❤️: Still blaming.
👩: Please call me when dinner’s here. I’m leaving early.
Imagine this scene starting with Gg and Dd on a bench. Dd kept trying to sit closer to Gg; Gg kept scooting away from him.
Gg was. Just. So. Furious. Just look at how dramatic he was! He almost fell off the bench avoiding Dd. He said he couldn’t eat anymore with all the RAGE in him — to be angry, in Chinese, is 生氣, literally, to grow gas, and the original Chinese text had Gg said that he was full because of all that angry gas inside him. He was so angry that Dd was paying for their dinner (while he, Gg, was still the one treating!!) He was so angry, in fact, that he couldn’t stay at the place for a moment longer, and oh, Dd was to blame for everything, including for TM2′s feeling full. Someone else’s digestive state not being a thing that can be blamed on others? Did Angry!Gg care? Nooooo ...
And yet, Dd didn’t sound particularly concerned. Yes, he agreed that Gg was treating but not paying (!!), but he also promised to continue to aggravate Gg (”Still irking”). Even more strangely, TM2, who had to be a subordinate of Dd, ignored Gg’s fury as well, and asked about the logistics of dinner as if the significant other of her boss wasn’t consumed with rage in front of her.
What was going on? Didn’t Gg’s FEELINGS (TM) matter?
To understand the depth, the chilli-heat that was Gg’s anger, we must hear it from the man himself. No better understanding could be gained than really, truly, fully listening, and appreciating the description he gave to his own ire.
屁股冒火. Literally, flames emitting from the butt. Ass-on-fire.
That was intense.
And that … was yet another popular internet meme. The full phrase was 屁股冒火別惹我 or 屁股帶火別惹我 Ass on fire; don’t irk me — hence, Dd’s response to Gg, after Gg described his mood. Memes, of course, come with graphics (and the ones Gg likes, ugly graphics), and the memes I found below perfectly capture the hellfire, the blood and brimstone harboured by this phrase:
The price of liking Gg: having to post eye-sores pretending to be memes on your blog.
Frightening, isn’t it? I’m shaking, literally, as I stare at these ... organic rockets (not telling what I’m shaking with). No wonder Dd and TM2 reacted to Gg’s anger the way they did.
One more amusing tidbit about this convo was 👩 TM2’s reactions to the highpoint of Gg’s drama. When Gg claimed he couldn’t stay any longer (he. was. just. so. furious), TM2 said “Me too” and at Dd’s reaction — the description of that emoji 😳 was “flushed” — her response was she was already full, but unlike Gg’s full, her fullness * was * from eating (吃飽; Gg’s full was from 氣飽). While it was possible she had just eaten a snack or a meal, her “Me too” came at a strange place — if Gg had just claimed he couldn’t stay because Dd’s irking was driving him away, then, for TM2 to say “Me too” as the immediate response, she had to imply that something was driving her away as well — hence, Dd’s 😳; it wasn’t an expected response.
But recently-consumed food was hardly capable of driving the consumer away from a scene; TM2 also asked to please call her when dinner arrived, which meant she was still planning to have dinner. Gg’s response “Blame him (Dd)” further suggested that what made TM2 full … might not have been actual food at all, despite it was also something TM2 had eaten.
So, what was it?
In Chinese slang, when a couple was behaving in (nauseatingly) sweet couple-ly ways, it’s called 撒狗糧 — literally, scattering dog chow. And so, some c-turtles postulated that TM2 might have gotten full from such “dog chow”, from watching Gg and Dd interacting the way they had. Hence, Dd’s flushed reaction. Hence, TM2 claiming she had “eaten” herself full — “dog chow”, though figurative, still counted as food. She might have also witnessed the event leading to this convo as well — since Gg didn’t seem to be truly angry but was feigning to be, could it be that Dd had done something … lovey-dovey that had embarrassed him? This hypothesis, therefore, had Gg and Dd themselves driving TM2 away from the scene: she couldn’t stand their xxj 小學雞 style of romance any longer and had to flee 😂.
Why is it called 撒狗糧? Because single people in China have given themselves the self-effacing label 單身狗, literally, single dog. The (not always welcomed) sweetness emitted by couples on days like Valentine’s Day, or 七夕 Qixi, was like alms for these poor single dogs who didn’t have a partner -- since the best alms for dogs are dog chow, such sweetness has been called dog chow and the (un)intentional emission of such sweetness by couples, the scattering of dog chow.
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Part 4: The Verdict
Now, after all the complex rituals, the home packing and mouth exercises and the human rocket, what was the verdict? Was the soup worth the visit?
❤️: This soup is delicious?
💚: Oh. It’s not delicious?
❤️: Here. You have a mouthful of it here.
💚: * laughs *
❤️: You lied.
💚: * sad puppy eyes * I didn’t.
❤️: Silly fool.
💚: You scolded me.
❤️: Eat! You liar!
❤️: (You think) Without soup, I wouldn’t come?
💚: This cold dish. It’s refreshingly crunchy.
❤️: Believe you and I’m a fool.
Oh noes! It turned out (SURPRISE!) that the flavourless-chicken-breasty-something soup was not at all delicious!
Gg started this convo with disbelief; what he said could be re-worded as: What? You called this soup delicious? Dd acted surprised in return: What, it wasn’t good? Gg * imagine him stretching himself over the table, feigning to force-feed Dd a spoonful of the liquid with flavourless floating thingies *: Try it. Seriously, you’re telling me this is good?
Dd laughed then, confirming what the audience (and undoubtedly, Gg) suspected all along — Dd had always known that the soup was no good, not really worth a trip. Gg called Dd a liar accordingly, then, 瓜兮兮 — a Chongqing-nese slang meaning silly fool. Finally, he told Dd he would’ve come visit anyway, even without the soup.
Dd, being not only 瓜兮兮 but also rather thick-skinned, went on to recommend another dish, and Gg was like Yeah right, like I’ll believe you again. The literal translation of his exact words is much better though, I’ve got to say, for the grand finale of this saga:
信你個大頭鬼
Believe you big-headed ghost!!
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Afterthoughts ~ Why Cultural Background Matters, Etc.
So, that’s the commentary! I hope you enjoyed it. As usual, my interpretation is filtered through my own cultural background, which is different from Gg’s, Dd’s and most likely, LRLG’s.
As an example, being from the Southern Canton region (Hong Kong is geographically within the Canton, or Guangdong province) where soup drinking is HUGE, this adds another layer of chuckle-worthiness to this saga — "come back and drink soup” is most often heard from sad housewives in soap operas to their husbands, usually after said husbands had an affair and it meant, please return home and love me. Cantonese soup is believed to have medicinal properties, and it takes a lot of time and care to brew (there’s a reason why, when Gg needed some sweet soup to fight water retention, he went to a restaurant specialising in Hong Kong cuisine). Coming back to drink soup, therefore, also means accepting that care and love from the soup-maker.
I didn’t incorporate this into the commentary above though, because unless Gg or Dd or LRLG are from the same region, this piece of info isn’t relevant to the reading of this rumour. This is also why, even though I know Chinese, I can’t write a LRLG post even if I try — I don’t know enough relevant cultural info, the norms in habits, reactions, word choice etc for people with the same cultural background as Gg and Dd, to write such a post.
Gg’s last chilli words 信你個大頭鬼 Believe you big-headed ghost!! is another example. Cantonese, the dialect I speak, actually has an extremely similar phrase with the identical Believe you and I’m a fool meaning — 信你個死人頭 Believe you dead person’s head!! The two phrases must have shared a past — the dead person = ghost is there, the head is there.
But they just aren’t interchangeable.
(Chongqing liars have bigger heads, maybe?)
In the interest of full disclosure, I shall say this here — I have this gut feeling that the hands behind this episode of LRLG may be different from the ones before. There are lots of similarities in how the material is presented, but there’s also a slight difference in style (the presence of a story arc being one), and also, in the presentation of Gg and Dd that I can’t quite point my fingers to yet. With time, things should become more clear. As LRLG posts are written in the POV of one of Dd’s team members, hands can change — it may be just another team member recalling, arranging the tidbits. This is a reminder, however, that these posts are fake rumours at the end of the day, and should be read as such.
Last of all, LRLG’s posts often end with well-wishes, and Episode 29 was no exception. The first well-wish was Happy Birthday — probably referring to Dd’s birthday (this episode was posted mid-July). The second, meanwhile, was 長樂未央 Long lasting, never-ending joy, a popular well-wish from Han dynasty two thousand years ago (202 BC - 220 AD), during which people would carve these words on their roof tiles as a blessing for their homes:
The tiled roof of Chinese ancient buildings. The circular ends are where the excavated tiles in the lower row, with 長樂未央 carved on them, once fit.
Why am I drawing attention to the well-wishes? They’re often sweet aside, referencing ancient text appears to be a Gg thing too (as much as his very questionable taste in memes) — for those who’re interested, here’s a piece I wrote about the recent Hibiscus candy.
And this love, this respect for ancient Chinese culture, along with everything else in this post (all right, I admit ... including the ugly memes), makes the geek in me very, very happy.
Anonymous asked:
Hi RBS,
Hope you have been enjoying all the fun GGDD content over the past days!
Since we recently had a fake story, I was wondering about the fake story contributions (lrlg and the other two). Do you think they could possibly come from the same fake sources? Last year they were quite scarce and we seem to have bit more from them this year, right?
Oh by the way, which of the three fake story channels is your favourite?
Thanks! And I request to be kept anonymous.
Hi Anon, I definitely have been enjoying the past few days of excellent material from our boys! I hope you have as well! 😊
This is in reference to a previous post.
Anon is referring to the rumor houses:
Boxiao Fake Rumor House
Zhanbo Counterfeit Material (ZSWW fake rumors)
Boxiao Material (Fake rumors)
They exist to share fake rumors in the fandom.
Do I think they could be coming from the same fake accounts/sources?
Anything's possible, but I think it's highly unlikely. There is just too much variety from too many different perspectives. I don't see any single source going to all that trouble.
And I don't think it's likely that everything is entirely invented, either (in fact we know for sure that some have been true). There's just as much incentive for real people to share real stories as there is for random people to invent fake ones.
Part of the original point of the fake rumor houses was to make it possible for people to safely share stories about things they'd witnessed, and some of the stories have proved to be true in one way or another (the 49 fake candies, for example), so we know at least some of them have been true.
The fandom has slowed down over the years, and there's not nearly the volume of fake rumors being shared anymore. I think a lot of people lost interest in the whole fake rumor thing. GG and DD's circle has also tightened, and they've reined in their behavior a lot. There are fewer chances for people to witness something they'd want to share.
The entertainment industry has become a lot more tense over the past few years as well. There are likely fewer people who feel comfortable sharing anything that could put anyone at risk.
Most of the candies people have been enjoying over the past couple of years have been things mined directly from material shared by GG and DD (his and his cameras, phone cases, hiking photos, etc.), or else material from leaks and verified sources (for example, the covid test rumor, the black barriers at GG's hotel in Mongolia, etc.).
Various things have shifted so that these rumors aren't flowing the way they used to, and that would obviously imply that there are fewer people out there who are sharing these stories - real or fake.
I think the people who would still care enough about this dying art form are those who actually have stories to share, or else those who might have a reason to keep the fandom interested. I talked about this a bit more a while back.
So, yeah, they could be totally invented fan fiction from industrious turtles who are trying to 'keep hope alive', but it's just as possible that some of the newer ones are real just as some of the older ones were.
We will likely never know for sure. I think that's the whole point of a lot of it, isn't it? To enjoy a mystery, and to safely get stories that couldn't otherwise be shared.
LRLG is a bit of a special case, though.
LRLG rumors come from the same account every time, and always have. This is denoted by a number in the bottom right hand corner of every rumor coming from the LRLG source. There are other rumors from the house that have used the 🔴🟢 format to show which speaker is GG and which is DD, but if they don't have the number in the corner, they did not come from LRLG.
Have there been more rumors this year?
No. If you go through the accounts you'll see that the output of all of them has been gradually slowing for years. This year has been slower than any other to date. LRLG is the exception to this, as they've submitted more this year than last year, but the rumor house itself hasn't been sharing rumors from any other source for quite a while.
And in case there's any confusion - the Boxiao Fake Rumor House is not LRLG. They are a rumor house that has shared a variety of rumors from (presumably) a variety of different sources, and LRLG is just one of the contributors (and in fact LRLG has been the only published* contributor there for years).
*It's possible that other materials have been submitted to them by other contributors, but not published.
Which of the three channels is your favorite?
No contest here. I love LRLG so of course I have to choose the Boxiao Fake Rumor House, as that's where the LRLG rumors have always been submitted.
@accio-victuuri has a post about some of the CPN from the GQ feature on GG. There are a couple more CPNs that I wanted to talk about because - with the exception of a couple of tidbits - I haven't seen turtles talking about some things that really stood out to me.
Both of the tidbits being discussed by BXG are based on fake rumors from the past.
Godly Back
Turtles feel that the backless jacket might be what was referred to in the recent LRLG rumor (Apparently wangwang senbei can be a homophone sounding like 'godly back').
In this context, "You saw what I wore, can you please choose something normal" becomes hilarious. 😅
If he really was talking about GG's back, well... DD, the rest of the internet agrees with you given the hotsearch that was trending on both the main and entertainment hotsearches. 😅
Xiao Zhan's back ditch is so deep
GGDD and ADLAD
This one I wanted to dig more deeply into because it's connected to a few different CPN from a long time ago, and a lot of turtles might not be aware of all these connections.
In the GQ interview GG mentioned he was really nervous for the first performance of ADLAD.
At the time a LRLG rumor came out with some exchanges between GG and DD in the days leading up to that first show. GG talks about being nervous, DD and his staff video call him to wish him Jiayou, and at one point - presumably the last time they talk before that first show - DD video calls with GG and closes off by giving him a high 5.
The day after the first show, GG posted on Weibo.
At the time there was a lot of speculation about what that second photo was. One of the theories was that GG had screen capped DD's hand high-5-ing his phone. Some fans even tried doing that themselves (screencapping their hands up against their phone cameras to see what would happen) with somewhat similar results - photos that were an ombre of pale pink to red.
Some additional CPN
When I saw GG talking in GQ about the first ADLAD show and how nervous he was and I saw turtles looking back over the LRLG rumors from that time, I decided to look over those rumors myself. I found a couple things there that really hit me in the gut, but which I haven't seen other turtles discussing.
Magician DD
One thing that stood out to me from the ADLAD LRLG rumor was when DD told GG he could do magic, and told his staff that only GG believed him.
Back in 2021 a series of pages called the 300G were released, which claimed to be transcripts of some of the best unseen moments from The Untamed BTS (300GB of BTS footage was reportedly sold to BXG fansites). They were translated by an all-star team of some of the best BXG translators and overall fandom MVP on Twitter back in the day (god I miss those days of Twitter 😢).
Disclaimer: We must remember that these are unconfirmed transcripts. As far as I know, none of the footage that could substantiate these transcripts has ever been released, so it could just be someone's fanfic.
Anyway, my absolute favorite moment in those transcripts was an exchange between GG and DD, when GG had been struggling with nailing a scene. My synopsis from a post I made about GG and DD's personalities a while back:
GG is having a hard time getting a take right for a scene, and the director tells him to take a break. DD scoots over to where GG is resting and holds out his two fists facing downward in front of GG and asks him to pick one for a surprise.
GG agonizes a bit over which one to choose, but finally picks a hand. DD gives GG a mysterious smile and asks GG to hold out his hand. GG does, and DD opens his fingers over GG’s palm. There’s nothing there. DD says, “I’ve just given you some luck, so that on your next take, you will succeed.”
GG asks what is in the other hand and DD turns it over and opens it and says, “See, there’s nothing there! Zhan-ge is so good, you guessed right on the first try!”
GG rolls his eyes at DD and says, “WYB, in your heart, do you think I’m more than 10 years old?”
On the next take, GG nails the scene.
So it's just possible that DD and GG have a long history of this type of exchange, of DD giving GG his 'magical' support. GG is just superstitious enough that it might genuinely help him, and anyway, who could fail to be soothed by such sweet magic? 🥹
GG and Sleep
Another thing that stood out to me is when GG talked about being unable to sleep. Honestly this part of the interview really got me because I have always struggled with extreme insomnia and I could totally feel his pain. I've tried so many of the things that he's tried, and have had similarly mixed/poor results.
Anyway, aside from the aromatherapy candle CPN that's been heavily discussed in the fandom, what stood out to me CPN-wise was the fact that LRLG rumors have (I think this has happened at least a few times, but I can't recall specifics), featured moments where it seemed like GG and DD left their phone/video calls active to keep each other company when the other one was sleeping.
In the ADLAD LRLG rumor there's a moment when it seems like GG might be having difficulty sleeping and DD keeps him company.
Find someone who will keep you company over the phone while you try to take a nap. 🥹
Firecrackers
Just another quick thing from that same rumor, DD talks about wanting to set off some firecrackers for GG, which... ugh, so sweet. My god.
His staff encourages him to do it, and he says he will be 'taken away' if he does (maybe get into trouble, likely exaggerated a bit), and his staff says he'll cover for DD.
In Chinese culture (and in fact, in many cultures), firecrackers are considered very lucky because they are believed to drive away evil spirits and bad luck (which is why they're such a feature of Spring Festival celebrations).
GG and DD always look out for each other, and this CPN around ADLAD and around GG's sleep struggles really hit me hard. I love them both so damn much!