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L’sandberg arc (my beloved) reminds me of early dream smp it’s the best i highly recommend it for old people who miss improv lore and combat logging and stuff like that
many have called manifoldland an enclave because it appears to have been within l’manbergs borders, but it is not a true enclave. the back of manifoldland bordered the greater smp, which just made it a very small state. however, l’sandberg is a true enclave, being entirely subsumed within foolish’s summer home. it could be argued that l’sandberg is actually the third enclave and spiritual successor to l’manberg if you assume that the greater smp state encompasses all unclaimed land on the server, which would make l’manberg the first and manifoldland the second. however, i disagree with this on the grounds that the greater smp is not a state and instead is a wilds presided over by dream and his allies; more of a warlord situation than a true organized state.
L’Sandburg discourse, my beloved. Finally, something I think I can provide a fresh take on.
Now, I’ve spoken about L’Sandberg here before, where I said that the conflict is most like “non-canonical” – and it proves to me once more that the universe hates me, because Io and Behold: canonicity debate amongst the creators and fans.
I think what this problem boils down to is: What does “canon” mean in this context?
While I cannot speak for anyone else, what I mean, when I say “Is this canon?” is “Will this end up mattering?”
Samsung Smart Fridge was declared canon by Wilbur and – though I love her dearly – she will never matter or have any impact on the storyline, Philza’s character or Wilbur’s character. Her designation as canonical is meaningless.
And the debate, I think, that’s happening around L’Sandberg is much the same for fans or content creators. It’s not whether or not this will be arbitrarily given the label “canon”. The question is whether or not we should consider the actions these characters take as congruent and meaningful for their arcs overall – if this will intersect with Dream’s storyline, the Egg’s storyline or the Syndicate’s storyline in a substantial way.
Now, whether or not something ends up mattering can only really be said in retrospect. L’Sandberg could be Season 3’s Dreamon Hunter: a cute, little side-thing that will never be brought up again in any meaningful capacity and thus will not ever matter – regardless of whether or not we slap the label “canon” on it.
The only concern I see is when half the people involved treat it jokingly and the other half treat it seriously. Because then we get into early Season 2-terrority of lacking coordination and confusion for the fans. I’m specifically thinking of El Rapid’s independence “war” and how dubiously that was treated until Quackity tied it all together with his Las Nevadas-series.
I would just want the creators to know what they want this to be – especially with the establishment of a government and the maybe involvement of the Syndicate – rather than stumbling into greater implications and then wondering why people were dissatisfied with the storyline.
“Bad do you see these yellow flags? They better be white. In five days.” - Foolish to Bbh about L’Sandberg
am i aware the whole l’sandberg bit is 98% a joke and not actually a testament to their characters? yes. will i shamelessly use as many parts of it as possible to point to c!dream and c!foolish and go “brothers <3”? absolutely.
my l’sandberg, my l’sandberg
it was a pretty build but seeing it explode was cool
L'Sanberg/turtle arc my beloved ❤