I agree we need a different name for the music where people talk fast but aren't really rapping but everything I'm seeing about the term filk music is saying it's scifi and fantasy music regardless of genre
You can go with other names for it. Nerdcore, comedy music, parody music, fandom music. The point is that there are words for it because, even by the incredibly nebulous metrics of genre definition, there's an entire musical history behind something like The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate History (which is where I assume people are getting the 'lemon demon rapper' idea from) that is, and this is important, completely different from the history of rap which people are trying to push forward in the wake of the kendrick/drake beef.
I mentioned filk music in particular because, one, the focus on fast talking made it a workable analogue to rap in terms of needing technical and rhetorical skill to do with any measure of success, and two, filk songs are an obvious antecedent to a lot of Neil Cicierega's earlier work under the Lemon Demon name. Using TUSoUH as a way to sidestep the need to care about black music is disrespectful to black music and ignores where Neil C clearly does take musical inspiration from, your Weird Als, your Leslie Fishes, your Tom Lehrers, the history of music as satire, music as fandom, music as a derivation. It shows a stunning lack of interest in, not just black culture and its influence on pop, but on musical history in general.
I studied music in school once upon a time so this just gets to me. The development of music in this country is a beautiful clusterfuck of influences on influences, new instruments opening up new possibilities, economic and political factors influencing art which influence it back. I want y'all to care about rap history and its place in the wider scope of Afro-American history and politics, but also care about it and its place in the wider scope of music history. I want y'all to care about that more than winning a stupid argument about how nobody on this site knows anything about rap, which you shouldn't be trying to win because that's just true.













