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The 4 most attractive characters from the “Lords of Chaos” movie:

And you can’t change my mind

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"Jack Goes Home" Ending Discussion/Analyse

TW for SA mentioned, Death, Suicide, Self-Harm, Miscarriage, Abuse also Spoilers for "Jack Goes Home" (I know that a lot of people in the Rory Culkin fandom have watched Jack Goes Home, but just in case someone hasn't watched it and doesn't want to be spoiled, don't read this post or maybe do if you don't care)

I've been rewatching Jack Goes Home and i think I now understand the ending, Kind of. I don't know if it's a theory if it's actually what the ending is supposed to be, i don't know because people analyze the ending differently.

So In the end of the movie when you find out that his mom and dad both died and he was just Hallucinating all of it when him and Shanda go back to the house and he opens the door and you hear the violin music playing (It could be the same music that Jack asked his mom to play for his dad at his funeral) and Jack says that he can't keep her (Her being his Mom) waiting and then he walks into the house and the doors slam behind him and i think that's means that Jack kills himself in the end of the movie, of course it's not shown but it is hinted at like when he is about to "kill" his mom on the side of the road and Shanda stops him and he says "He had to go (He either being maybe his Dad or his Twin, i'm not to sure) So does she, so do i", it sounds like in a way Jack doesn't have a say in whether or not he will die, he says it like he has to die along with his family, not like in the far future, it seems like it wold be sooner than later.

Also it's shown that as the movie goes on He slowly starts losing his mind after finding all the stuff in the attic about his childhood trauma of him being SA'd resurfacing, His Fiancee having a miscarriage and losing their unborn son and also figuring out that his mom was physically abusing his Dad and that he had a twin brother named Andy that his Dad killed thinking it was Jack because Jack wouldn't stop crying and his parents couldn't handle it so they accidentally killed the son they actually wanted (God that scene when his mom is yelling at him that it should have been Jack under the water instead of Andy, that it was suppose to be Jack, my heart absolutely broke) (I also think that all of this happens over the span of like a few weeks) so all this built up of trauma, something like this was bound to happen.

Another way that it's hinted at that he dies in the end is when he goes to the bar and the bartender reads his palm and he says that Jack is Already Dead, i thought that there was gonna be a big plot twist that he was dead the whole time and i was really wrong, but maybe instead of it being him physically dead, he could be mentally dead too that it could later lead to him being physically dead along with the scene with him slitting his throat in the bathroom before it going back to normal, that could be like a intrusive thought that he was having that was later acted upon and in the end it could have all happened in the attic because that is where everything resurfaced, him finding the locked box with the papers about the trial and his SA along with the tape with his brother on it, and not to mention when Jack is sleeping walking, He says that he’s in the attic, At first it was meaning that him finding all that stuff in the attic but it could be a foreshadowing moment for Jack’s fate, it wouldn't be totally out there to have it take place in the attic.

But of course this is all a Theory, All of this could just be me over analyzing it like i do with everything so i could totally be wrong, and a lot of people have interrupted the ending in different ways but this is just what i think happens and what i think makes the most sense.

The only thing i don't understand was what was the point behind Duncan's Character, Jack's neighbor that he was also hallucinating, was he supposed to represent something? If anyone knows, could someone explain it to me?

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Rory Culkin’s “worst” Acting performance

(Let me state this before I got massive hate, I put worst in air quotes (massive air quotes) because I’m not at all calling Rory a bad actor, he’s the furthest thing from it, he’s really good and he’s one of my favorite actors, just this acting performance he did, didn’t really do it for me and I will explain why, I would just like to rant about this because I’ve been rewatching this movie and I’ve been thinking about it and I wanted to see if anyone else noticed it like I did.)

Yes we’re talking about Lords of Chaos.

(Let me also preface this, I’m the kind of person that is known to over analyze everything, Everything that I bring up will be mainly talking about the Movie, I will sometimes bring up moments in real life but I won’t be over analyzing the real life people because they were real life people and I didn’t know what they were thinking at the time, I’m not at all qualified to make assumptions on real life people however I can do that with “fictionalized” versions of those real life people, if I get really ranty I apologize, and if it seems like I’m just pulling stuff out of my ass, I probably am, I tend to do that and make everything over complicated, this is just how I analyze stuff) Now I like Lords of Chaos, it’s not my favorite Rory Culkin film, but it was the first that I watched that got me obsessed with him (shoutout to all the edits that I saved of him as Euronymous, what can I say, I’m sucker for metal heads)(Okay Technically Scream 4 was my first Rory Culkin Film but that didn’t lead me to my obsession)

So when i first watched Lords of Chaos I wasn’t at all prepared for what I was getting into, I had never heard of the band “Mayhem” and I knew nothing about the backstory on them so when I watched it I was shocked.

I didn’t know if I liked at first but rewatching it, it’s quite entertaining, if you ignore all the inaccuracies in this movie and you just watch like you would any movie, in my opinion, it’s a good movie, it’s not fantastic by any means, it has it’s moments of being shitty but it’s good, it’s a decent movie but probably my biggest gripe with this movie is the acting and the dialogue. (They’re are some great actors in this movie like the guys that played Pelle, Faust and HellHammer, they killed it and then there are some that there acting is really to much, like they’re trying to hard, the guy that plays Varg is probably my biggest example of this, I don’t know just something about his portrayal is just to much and also to little at the same time, like he does say some over the top stuff but the way he says it just doesn’t speak volumes as it should, you know? Also I saw a comment that said that when Varg laughs he sounds like Chris from Family Guy and i can’t unhear it)

Now this is movie about the birth of Norwegian Black Metal so of course there are going to be a lot of the best way I can put it is edgy dialogue, they truly wanted to be different, to have people fear them so they do need to be over the top but it could probably just be me growing up in the Creepypasta community in 2016/2017 but i just hear it as a bunch of kids trying to edgy so it doesn’t really do a job at making them fearful, it’s just them being over the top edge lords, in fact sometimes I find it funny but sometimes I find it cringey and just sometimes not necessarily but that could just be me.

All of the actors did what they could with the script which like I said, had some cringey over the top dialogue and I think that it really affected people’s performances especially Rory’s. Now I’m finally gonna get to talking about Rory.

Now I don’t hate Rory as Euronymous, I still do like his performance as Euronymous But it’s just some of his performances sticks out to me the most for a lot of the wrong reasons. Now what I absolutely love about Rory as an actor is just how natural of an actor he is, meaning that he actually sounds and acts like a real person having a conversation when he acts, it doesn’t feel like your watching a movie sometimes because of how natural it feels. But when it comes to “Lords of Chaos” that natural feeling isn’t there, a lot of his dialogue seems forced and like I said it’s over the top and it just feels odd, some of his dialogue seems clunky (if that makes sense) and even if he’s talking like a normal person, sometimes it still suffers from that same problem of the dialogue not really hitting right. I'd say that his performance as Euronymous is probably his "weakest" performance, he has his moments of being great but you really have to look for it.

I’ll find an example to show:

the dialogue just sounds I don’t know off, like it doesn’t sound natural or at least as natural as it could be.

And it sucks because if you’ve watched other movies that he’s been in like Jack Goes Home and Gabriel for example, I think those are probably his most emotional roles, he puts everything into those characters, there is so much depth to them and emotion and so much life to these characters, and when you watch Lords of Chaos, it just isn’t really there as much.

And I think the biggest problem is that it’s a BioPic, Because the actors are playing real people, real life people and it is such a hard task to do, why do you think a lot of BioPics are hit or miss, in my opinion being in a BioPic is probably the hardest thing you could do as an Actor because you’re not playing a character, your playing a real person and I think that the role of Euronymous is a really big role seeing as he was an awful person in real life and there are so many aspects to his time as the creator of Mayhem, it’s a difficult role and I truly Believe that Rory did the absolute best he could, but I think it could have maybe been directing issues or just that this role is really challenging that really ruined his performance at least for me. It's not not like he's bad at being in BioPics, i mean he was in two before and after Lords of Chaos, 1. was Waco: Madman or Messiah and he played David Thibodeau in 2018, before he did Lords of Choas and he rocked those roles along with in 2022 he played in another BioPic Under the Banner of Heaven where he played Samuel Lafferty so it's not like it's his first time being in a BioPic film, i believe that the role of Euronymous is a really challenging role and he did the best he could.

BUT he does have some great small moments in this movie where he does have that natural charm and he feels like an actual person instead of the Euronymous persona that he puts on.

For example, Basically almost every scene with Pelle (Dead) and Euronymous, I think that both of them have honestly great chemistry together and even if in real life Dead and Euronymous weren’t close, in the movie you can really feel that Euronymous did care about him, Euronymous wanted to make music and he even says that when he heard Dead sing for the first time that it was beautiful and that he had never heard anything sound like that, he was perfect for Mayhem and you can tell that he wanted what was best for the band or what he thought was best and it’s even shown how much Euronymous still thinks about Dead like when he gets the call from Kerrang (or however you spell it) Magazine after Varg was accused of setting fires to the Churches and he has a picture of Dead’s body, the one he used for the album cover, we get a flashback in time to after he took the picture and he’s crying at the sight of Dead which really humanizes him which I’m not sure a lot of people like but once again Rory is coming in with his Naturalistic acting and showing that even though Euronymous did take pictures of Dead and did steal parts of his skull. It shows that even though Euronymous was this awful person, he is still human and he is literally sitting in front of someone that was his friend who blew his brains out, that would bring anyone no matter who you are to tears and you see him crying after I think the realization hits him. Before he calls everyone saying that “Pelle has gone home” and steps back into the Euronymous persona, he has this quiet moment with Dead.

Along with him finding Dead, Him getting to the house, throwing rocks at the window, Telling Pelle to open the door and then having to get a ladder to get into the house and then walking into the room and finding him, then he heads downstairs and then goes to call the police before stopping and going to get a camera to take the pictures of Dead, but it’s all the quiet moment that he has that really shine through.

Also when Euronymous tells Dead that there’s a cat outside and they go outside to kill it, it just shows them as two guys dicking around before Dead tells Euronymous to shoot him which he is shocked by. I think that that truly shock Euronymous to his core, because in this moment Dead is telling him to shoot him and he almost does before backing out because even though he act’s tough and evil, he can’t physically pull the trigger, he can’t fathom taking someone else’s life.

Also an underrated scene is when When he dyes his hair black and he asks his sister what she thinks, they have this cute sibling bonding moment even though his sister isn’t really in the movie as much, it still shows that they have a bond. Still humanizing him, I like that scene, it’s just a nice scene before everything goes down hill.

Another great acted scene is After the fires, Euronymous becomes paranoid that the police will find out that he is connected to the fires through Varg, I think he plays the paranoia perfectly, him wanting them to lay low for awhile, to keep the police off their backs, also when he finds out that Varg went to the press about the fires, Euronymous is angry and threatens to kill him, he grabs the taser and says that he’ll tie Varg to a tree, torture him and make a snuff film out of it.

All the scenes that humanize Euronymous are really where Rory’s acting talent can really shine through. It’s the little scenes that really show how great of an actor Rory is in it just sucks that you really have to really pay attention to it.

Now this is of course all just my analysis from rewatching Lords of Chaos and how I view it. Once again this isn’t my hating on Rory as Euronymous or him as an actor, this is just something I noticed that I think ruins the movie for me a bit.

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Listening to Deftones while reading Jack Goes Home stuff on Tumblr is such a mood.

Also Rory Culkin as Jack, he makes me feel some kind of way and it's not good

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What really break my heart about Jack goes home is during the scene when Jack confronts his mother about the case report and then about Andy and she tells him that it was supposed to be him under that water, not Andy.

That made me think about can you imagine What Jack was thinking when she said that, That 1. His dad who he cares about so much killed someone, not just the fact that he killed his twin brother and the fact that his Dad wanted to Kill Jack but accidentally killed Andy, can you imagine being in his situation, finding out that your Dad wanted to kill you when you were younger.

And 2. That his parents preferred Andy over Jack because his mom said that Andy was so full of smiles and all Jack did was cry, finding out that both of your parents had some distain towards you and that they wanted your brother instead of you.

Can you imagine what Jack was feeling during that realization? Maybe he started to doubt if his dad and mom actually loved him or if they just did it because they would imagine Andy in Jack’s place.

I’ve been thinking about this for the past week and it just makes me sad the more I think about it.

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Twilight by Boa is literally so "Jack Goes Home" coded, don't ask me how or why, it just it.

(if you can't tell, i am hyperfixating on Jack Goes Home, also i'm literally so tempted to start writing on here, not sure what i'll be writing or if i even will but i might)