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[mischas]

Mischa confirms she dated Ben on the latest Call Her Daddy podcast (starts at 8:25) 🤯

[mischas]

Decided not to gatekeep this old Mischa interview with Kimmel from back in the day. It aired on September 8, 2003.

[mischas]

mischa basically confirming that her and ben’s problems was written into the show and that he was an ass to her when she dated other people? this is wild

I have genuinely never felt more vindicated about something in my whole life. Like I had my theories I believed in maybe 85% but Mischa really said "here you go, tumblr user ryanandmarissa" today.

[mischas]

Wait sorry hold on I'm reading your timeline and B+M were still together by 1x24? Or right before it?

Right around 1x22 is when I'd say, with maybe a break around 1x20/1x21.

ETA: I don't know anything anymore, because they are both in good spirits around 1x25 filming.

[mischas]

Hi! Not sure if you've talked about this but did B and M knew each other before the show? What did their timeline look like? Thank you for always replying!

Hiya :)

No, they didn't know each other beforehand. They met at their chemistry read which took place a couple of weeks before shooting the pilot, so probably late February 2003. Ben was the last principal actor cast and iirc was officially cast like a week or two before they shot the pilot.

I can give you a rough timeline of the bare bones of things during s1. I have a more detailed timeline because I'm insane and curious and hyperfixate on things. And I know that sounds weird and cagey lol but I always try to answer things as best as I can. I've spent a ~lot~ of time putting things together and combing dead sites, reading old tabloids, etc. And MB sometimes speaks in hyperbole so when she says "right out of the gate" I don't necessarily take that to mean during the pilot shoot. But I also don't know. I think these two have sparks on overdrive during the iconic "Whoever you want me to be" scene and I think everyone on set could easily tell. So.

Late February 2003: meet at chemistry test

Mid-March: film the pilot

Mid-May: upfronts in New York, followed by the first Camp Gallagher with all the regulars, resume filming soon after

June: MB mentions going to cast dinners

Late July: premiere party (these pics have always been SO couple-y); think they're filming 106 at this point

Early August: teen choice awards, the pilot airs 3 days after this. so that's 3 months of the cast partying and living in relative anonymity; MB is a rising it girl (and was before the show) but not papped

September 8: MB on Kimmel, her first late night talk show and she is so sweet and clearly not yet media trained

September 12: Ben's 25th birthday

Late October: Ben/Mischa/Adam go to New York on a press trip (YM party/TRL); TRL is the loudest piece of evidence in the world

December 4: Motorola. Scratch what I just said. Motorola is the biggest piece of evidence in the world; BM are quite literally on the cover of Us Weekly two and a half weeks later because of Motorola shenanigans. A blogger at E says they've been together for months; the final scene of 115 is shot earlier this day

December 10: Billboard Awards in Vegas. At this point AR are clearly also dating but both couples are on their best behavior

January 24, 2004: Mischa's 18th birthday. Tabloid says Ben was there with Rachel/Melinda/Samaire but that Adam missed the party. At this point in time tabloids barely talked about the cast and had little reason to lie. So many tabloids from this era ended up being true which is just... wild

January 25: Golden Globes. BM are pictured together, holding hands dancing, etc; MB and her rep deny the rumors in the press immediately after

Which brings me to the breakup. Or at least a break. A lot of couples in this era made their debuts as couples once the girl turned 18 (think Wilmer/Lindsay) so it's been assumed forever that that's what the GGs were doing. But for MB to quickly deny it still tells me the wheels fell off very quickly with them. I assume there was a BUNCH of weirdness being thrown at her from all sides about turning 18 too. All of this is so so sooooo insane to me still btw

February 24: MB denies dating Ben to Ellen and meets Brandon the same day this airs

Early March: MB starts dating Brandon

March 9: Paley Fest; AR/BM deny dating rumors, Ben opines about the press invasions into his personal life, says he wishes the rumors were true; they are filming 125 at this time; ETA: BM are still in good spirits with one another so their hatred era has not started yet

March 11: MB walks a red carpet with Brandon

March-April is Mischa/Brandon PDA 24/7 and I imagine TPTB/Ben are extremely pissed at her for it

April 20: s1 finale party (127 finished filming a few days before); BM do not pose for photos together

Aaaaaand this is just s1

[mischas]

#hand on hip they are so funny - what do you mean here?

Lmao um well 202 is also the episode MB referred to when she said they had hatred and sexual tension filming by the ferris wheel post irl breakup so the fact that this man, renowned for putting his hand on her hip, did it again for this tiny inconsequential scene is very amusing to me personally

[mischas]

What screaming scene? What happened? I’m on 2x16 and I thought it was weird they went that long without a scene too

The scene in 209 when Ryan is overreacting to Lindsay's drinking and yelling at Marissa for dragging him down the previous year. It's way too intense and aggressive and you can tell it's more real than whatever was on the page. Mischa looks like she's been slapped. On the podcast Melinda noted that it seemed like a personal M/B situation. So gross.

It aligns with the press at the time that Mischa's been spending too much time in Brandon's party circles and shit like "Mischa's abandoned her OC family!" Like christ she's 18 and the show introduced her to these circles! As if they didn't club with her a year previous like please be serious. So it's one thing for a co-worker to blow up at you on camera like that and another for it to be your jilted ex-boyfriend who btw is 26. It's always been suspicious to me that Marissa says "it'll be weird for a while" with an implied RM/Lindsay triangle and then it never materializes.

[mischas]

thoughts as i rewatched mischa on the oc pod

these are mostly the thoughts i sent to my friend in real time lol i cannot help the stream of consciousness when it comes to this podcast episode apparently (here's my original thoughts pre-revelations)

funny how she says 17.5/18 at the top

seems that’s the age range she’s really latched onto, especially as she was 16 when the talks with McG really started and they filmed the pilot not even two months after she turned 17 (aka she's still aging herself up which is... interesting)

i'm reminded of peter gallagher on the podcast saying he was scared for mischa right from the beginning and how they all had a duty to protect her. and rachel saying mischa was "seasoned" because she'd been in movies and knew how to order a latte. and peter was like "she was still 16"

they keep referring to the hermosa party as manhattan beach (unless i’m the one messing up)

i forgot she mentioned josh’s name

“as with everything with like josh and them back then, it was like ‘maybe she should be drunker’” omg??

THE PAUSE BEFORE SAYING BENS NAME LMAO

oh she did notttt wanna complete that thought

“that whole exchange behind……… ben”

this reads so different now

i feel like rachel is so scared to talk in this ep

mischa with the tight lipped smile when rachel says it’s fun to see ben squirm on the ferris wheel

calling herself a baby/fetus in the ferris wheel scene... interesting

i cannot believe the gall of these women to make her watch this scene

the way mindy immediately says the bullshit patrick rush line of they had to cast people way older than her to make it believable on camera bc boys mature later? wtf. i bet she thought that was bullshit too

i love her so much for criticizing the 201 writing

the mount st mary’s thing... i wanna know what she means!!!

i can see mischa dissociating as melinda talks about the model home scene “there was so much that was real”

cannot believe mindy referenced this scene to her face

i’m so in shock how quickly mischa's tears came at the crash scene. quicker than rachel's

her not wanting to see him cry she’s so real

i think she hates seeing his face full stop

thank fucking god mindy tells her and the audience that the ratings went down bc she wasn’t there

i love that that’s on the record

that guy who called in about the 207 bagel scene should be our friend

i think mischa was getting overwhelmed by the time the final calls were coming in

i think a lot of memories good and bad were flooding in