#michaeltobis

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The question is whether to engage those people at all.

mt raises a good question, which means the answer should be "it depends."

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ClimateBall Odds, Via MT's.

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What’s the Big Deal with CO2?

[Allow MT to explain.]

Secondly, the warming doesn’t stop until a couple of decades after we stop forcing the warming. As new sources of fossil carbon are identified, it looks like 3C is far from the ceiling.

Thirdly, many things we care about are sensitive to temperature (ecosystems, water supply, sea level) or its rate of change (infrastructure, agriculture, resilience to severe events).

Fourthly, the change will be much larger over land at middle and high latitudes, where much of the population lives. 3 C is not a uniform measure.

Fifthly, the weather patterns (climate) are likely change substantially with small changes in forcing. The 3 C average may wash out huge warming in one place and little change or even slight cooling in another. This will drastically alter wind patterns. These changes themselves are hard to predict and may be unstable.

On a side note, the carbon dioxide accumulation is also a direct threat to most food chains in the ocean. The world has survived a near-dead ocean in the distant past, but it’s not exactly a happy outcome itself.

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Which document created the consensus around, say, Maxwell’s equations?

Dr. Doom, with his pet example.

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Totally Out of Left Field

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This place is a strawman factory!

Michael Tobis, engineerily deriving.

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It’s one thing to predict a falling vase will shatter, another to predict where the pieces will end up.

Michael Tobis, unshakenly pessimistic.

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…beuht, …zet ees eexectly wheut I said

Michael Tobis, imitating Inspecteur Clouseau with his texin' accent.