#mr.kubdel

[none-of-your-biscuits]

Haha imagine, alix's dad is like, dead in the future, Bunnyx goes back in time to help her younger self and accidentally sees Mr. Kubdel. Haha imagine how sad-

[paintme-intrust]

Imagine Alix becoming Bunnix and finding out her brother was lowkey right about some things in history.

[miraculousladybugheadcannons]

Hawkmoth is NOT Mr.Kubdel. Kubdel's face isn't bumpy enough, while Gabriel's bone structure matches up to pre-transformation Hawkmoth perfectly

[lordandgodoftheobvious]

“Um...look! Is that a demonic duck of some sort?”

[paradingmassacre]

Hawk Moth theory(s) maybe?

OK, so there have been quite a few posts disproving Hawkmoth being Gabriel Agreste. So, I want to explore the options through the characters known so far. Below is all the named characters so far that have appeared. 

EDIT: I forgot the driver(but does he even have a name?? Its not him anyways)

So minus like two ladies who only appeared for like .005 seconds, this should be everyone (after episode 13). By eliminating everyone who has been akumatized or in an akuma attack, we can eliminate literally everyone except Gabriel Agreste, Nathalie Sancoeur, Ms. Mendeleiev, and Mr. Kubdel. Now, I wouldn’t want to eliminate Nathalie and Ms. Mendeleiev becuase they are woman(u never know) so lets just say it not them because of their chin shape.

Now, that makes the only possible known characters Adrien’s dad or Alix’s dad.

Now, what about the unknown characters? It is also highly possible that Hawkmoth has not been introduced. 

Lots of new characters are introduced in each episode, and lots of Akuma victims too. Now, the only thing all of the Akuma victims have in common is that they are somehow related to one of the recurring characters.  

Stormy weather- attendes the same school as Marinette and Adrien Bubbler- Adrien’s best friend Copycat- Fan of Ladybug, built Ladybug and Chat Noir’s statue Chronogirl- Marinette and Adrien’s classmate Mr. Pigeon- Ok hes not related but Mr. Pigeon was was one of the really important characters in the concepts (he is also in the PV) for this so I suppose hes an exception. If you want a stretch, he was Akumatized because of Sabrina’s dad. Lady Wifi- Marinette’s best friend the Pharaoh- Alix’s brother Rogercop- Sabrina’s dad Evillustrator- Marinette and Adrien’s classmate Dark Cupid- Marinette and Adrien’s classmate Horrificator-  Marinette and Adrien’s classmate  Dark Blade- Adrien’s fencing teacher Mime- Mylene’s dad

The relationships all the new characters have with the recurring characters very likely means that the identity of Hawk Moth will be associated with one of these already known characters. 

So, who has not been introduced yet? (Im looking at Adrien and Marinette’s classmates here.) Im not including mothers, that just doesn’t really seem plausible(but i really like the Adriens mother is Hawkmoth theory. THE PIN LOOKS LIKE A MIRACULOUS)

Nathaniel- Dad/ sibilings Alya- Dad Chloe- Siblings(?) Mylene- Siblings Nino- Dad/ Siblings Sabrina- Siblings Aurore - Dad/ Siblings Kim-Dad/ Siblings Rose- Dad/ Siblings Ivan- dad/ Siblings Max- Dad/ Siblings Juleka- Dad/ Siblings

Ok, so Hawkmoth has these murky blue/ grey eyes and pale white skin

So if we talk about genetics, we can eliminate Max(dark skin), Nino(dark skin), Sabrina(green eyes), Mylene (brown eyes) and Juleka(yellow/brown eyes). They are still possibilities, because genetics are weird. And we can keep Alya, because she could have gotten her eyes and Dark hair from her mother (who was introduced)

Everyone left has pale skin and blue eyes

if we eliminate the blue eyes that are to bright to be associated with Hawk Moth’s, WE GET

Kim and Ivan who both have grey eyes.

So, to wrap up-

Hawk Moth still probably has not been introduced. based on what I know for the character apperances it could be

Nathaniel- Dad/ sibilings Alya- Dad Chloe- Siblings(?) Sabrina- Siblings Aurore - Dad/ Siblings Kim-Dad/ Siblings Rose- Dad/ Siblings Ivan- dad/ Siblings

I personally think it be kind funny if it was Alya’s dad or Adriens Mom. The two main candidates will still be Gabriel Agreste or Mr. Kubdel

EDIT::: So, I’m not a writer, and I think my point here was kind of unclear (sorry~~) Heres what i replied to someone-

Obviously Hawk moth doesn’t up and go, Well based on this Ladybug theory i have this persons probably Ladybugs friend, lets wait for her to get really upset so I can send a demon butterfly to feed on her negative emotions. I was actually looking at all this from a writers standpoint, like how the identity reveal of Hawk moths character would more likely be more dramatic if it was a character we knew rather than that guy who walked down that street at that one time during episode 5. I’m not a writer, so my point may have been unclear here, so i apologize. I’m trying to say that the creators are not picking all of these new characters at random, and based off that, hopefully it will mean that if Hawk moth is not already an introduced character, he will also be introduced as having one of these relationships (family) with one of the known characters.

PRETTY UNRELATED BUT

While I was researching, i found this, which left me kind of dumbfounded

Mr. Kubdels hair color changes between episodes. I'm not very sure what I’m implying here, but one of the main things that disproves Mr. Kubdel being Hawk Moth is that mustache, which would be seen from Hawk moths little mouth slit if Mr.Kubdel was actually Hawkmoth.

Reblog with any theories regaurding any of this, i like to read them!