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old comic. read right to left. sorry for how rough sketchy it is.

Spinner and Shigaraki... 😭

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old comic. Gigantomachia month.

read right to left.

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Saw some Spinaraki kid OCs so I decided to try my hand at it too. Though it's less happy family kidfic and more resentfully making Heroes and Deku face consequences post-canon. Sorry.

the Spinaraki lovechild:

Shirakata Masanori | 白方正憲

Age: 15

Appearance: Lizard heteromorph. Black hair, pink eyes, white scales.

Quirk: Adhesion. Decay's spreading effect + Gecko's sticking trait. Anything object Masanori touches and remain in contact with will adhere with anything the object is also touching. If he touches a sidewalk, everyone on it will be stuck and trapped, unable to move their feet.

result of Spinner and Shigaraki getting together post-Deika/pre-surgery. super unexpected.

three months after Shigaraki went in for surgery, Spinner pops out an egg (please go with it)

During Heroes' raid on the PLF Villa, Spinner entrusts egg to ReDestro. Unfortunately, when everyone got arrested, egg gets swept up in custody capture of MLA kids.

With no one to claim the egg, it is placed in orphanage; all contact is then lost.

Egg hatches after war, at end of August.

Spinner was never able to tell Shigaraki about their kid due to the possession.

He decides not to say anything to the Heroes either. Doesn't trust them after Shigaraki got killed, and better that the kid doesn't grow up stigmatized for having terrorists as parents.

But Spinner does leave a letter with his court-appointed lawyer, hoping that one day it will reach the kid, when they come of age.

Spinner dies early due to effects of having multiple quirks; dies ten years after war

The lawyer, deciding to just finish up this assignment cleanly, finds the kid 4 years later and delivers the letter despite the kid not reaching age of majority.

Despite half-assed mild societal change efforts, Masanori grows up an orphan in the system, with the additional stigma of being an PLF raid kid (and therefore very likely the child of dead/arrested Villains/criminals)

Abandoned, unnamed babies in Japan are named by the city/town's mayor. Masanori was named with the kanji "white-direction correct-law" in hopes that he would become a law-abiding citizen (unlike his unknown parents). The Mayor is an asshole.

(Though Shirakata is a real surname, and chosen because kid has white scales)

Early on, Masanori looked out into the world and realized it doesn't want him, made it clear he doesn't belong. So he accepted it.

However, he knows the path of Villainy only leads to doom.

His caretakers drilled that into the PLF raid kids. Quirk counseling emphasized it a lot. So did teachers. Everyone.

He’s (reluctantly) played the ‘Villain’ in enough playground games that ends with the ‘Heroes’ pretending to smash him to pieces or explode him to nothing, because everyone has seen the war footage.

And he’s known too many people who salivate over the satisfaction of proving his blood is irreparably criminal.

So he won't be a Villain.

He just wants to leave - leave the orphanage, leave the city, leave Japan. Maybe travel the world alone forever.

Masanori is: very solitary, utterly disinterested in people, self-reliant, pragmatic, opportunistic, clever enough but can bite off more than he can chew

Masanori doesn't really have any sentimental feelings about his parents; or rather, he feels there's no point to dwell on it

He always knew he was the son of criminals. Discovering that he's the son of the most notorious criminals is somewhat cool, but Spinner and Shigaraki are long dead and gone.

When Masanori first received the letter, there was a satisfaction to finally knowing, nearly a sense of destiny. So he read the League of Villains memoir. He read the manuscript drafts that he inherited from Spinner. He did a lot of research.

(In the letter, Spinner admits that the kid was a surprise, that Shigaraki never knew, and Spinner himself doesn't know anything about the kid and will likely go to his grave not knowing.

They dealt the kid a shit hand.

Saying something cliche like they loved the kid they never knew would be hollow; and besides, Spinner and Shigaraki were twisted and distorted people. Villains. So the truth is, the kid is likely better off without them.

But.

Spinner wishes he and Shigaraki could've known the kid, and he regrets that neither of them were able to stay alive and free.

Spinner also writes that if Shigaraki knew about the kid, he knows Shigaraki would've tried to give them the world.)

But eventually, for Masanori, the end result of all that is realizing that there's nothing to be done with this information. Spinner and Shigaraki don't know him, and he doesn't know them; never will. They were criminals, they were young and stupid, they picked a fight and lost, and they left him behind.

All he has is still just himself.

...and this new knowledge he might be able to use to his advantage.

Which is why Masanori decides to confront the Hero Deku and demand compensation for the death of his parents and other hardships

Age 15, Masanori arrives at Deku's agency, carrying Spinner's letter that is his only proof

But just looking at Masanori convinces Deku. Kid's appearance is basically Tenko in lizard heteromorph form, but even his demeanor reminds Deku of Shigaraki - aloof but intense, determined. (tho he is still younger, less hostile, a bit stiff in nervousness)

Deku is shocked, guilty, suspicious, already wants to help, appalled at the extortion attempt. Ready for a conflict.

At least until he hears Masanori's demands:

Guaranteed admission to UA's General Studies Program, a recommendation letter, as well as a stipend all three years that Masanori is in high school.

And that's it.

Masanori has only an okay school record.

He did not have an enriching school life.

He's been accused of delinquent behavior - mostly suspected small theft and 'incidents' with other students

(They could never actually prove he stole anything; and the incidents he get into are always with the more aggressive classmates. They're not so much fights as pranks, and the bullying usually ceases immediately afterwards.)

High school is not mandatory in Japan, and minors legally can start work at age 15, so Masanori has been "asked"/expected to leave the orphanage after middle school. Jin Scenario

Not a very bright future. But he was ready for it... until he received Spinner's letter.

Suddenly.

If Masanori gets into UA High School, an elite national school, with recommendation from a world-renowned and beloved Hero, it's leaving the orphanage, leaving his hometown, starting a new life.

(General Studies program because he has zero interest in being a Hero.)

Graduate and better prepared to leave everything behind and travel the world alone forever.

Opportunity of a lifetime. He will shamelessly seize it.

Masanori's not blackmailing Deku or anything - nothing to blackmail, since no one cares Deku killed Shigaraki, and admitting he's the son of terrorists is social death. He's relying entirely on Deku's heroism.

Even if his Shigaraki was a Villain that Deku had to kill for the good of the world, that was still his father. Deku will feel compassion and guilt for Masanori.

Because Deku is a hero.

Manipulative? Yes. Is he unqualified for UA? Yes. But Masanori wants a chance at having more to life.

And Deku has to face what he (and All Might, and OFA) never actually did: resolve the continued rejection and ostracization problem in quirk society, and the cycle of Shimura tragedy

Because it's quickly obvious Masanori is just like his parents: given up on the world, given up on people. He's just not dangerous about it.

But his heart is empty. He has never been saved. And he no longer wants to be.

In other words: this time, Deku has to truly save someone that's been failed and rejected by this society he upholds. even if easy mode too because Masanori is not a villain. but is less receptive than a seven-year-old. or someone already having Pro-Hero aspirations

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Got the urge to draw something dumb. And so.

Based on this.

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Thank you so much for asking this. Yes, it all makes sense, and I think a lot of it! Because I've thought of this myself, and now I have a chance to show off how much silly thought I've put into actually this “Masanori raised by [Good Ending] Shigaraki and Spinner” AU. It's ridiculous, but.

One can indeed fantasize.

First, to respond to your questions: 

Shigaraki would be a really permissive dad: ✅ [Someone else] is doing most of the care: ✅ At war meetings, kid is climbing on the great commander’s face and he is completely unperturbed by it: ✅ Shigaraki would train his kid by letting him jump him and try to attack him on the most random of situations: ✅ Shigaraki would let his kid yell at him, insult him, be a sarcastic little shit: ✅ Shigaraki would let his kid go and lead a normal life: ✅ Hell, I think Shigaraki would let the kid betray him: ✅ "Didn't know you could make eggs": 🥚 ✅ How is he supposed to be something like a father? ✅ He knows he’ll do anything to try to do better, despite him and Spinner having already horribly messed up by having him in this situation, with the both of them wanted and in the middle of a war: ✅ Letting Masanori completely free, and trying to not let his own agenda weight on his kid’s shoulders: ✅❤️🥲 Won't raise a hand to the kid: ✅ Shigaraki and Spinner are not particularly affectionate: ✅ They have no idea of what they are doing: ✅ Does this situation put a strain on Spinner's relationship with Shigaraki? ✅ Does Spinner have a complex about passing a kid the looks that got him to live a miserable life? ✅🥲 Does any of this make sense? ✅✅✅ One can fantasize: ✅👍🏼❤️ What do you think? ❤️❤️❤️

Then to answer in great depth: 

NAME

First of all, Masanori would not be named “Masanori”. That was the name a mayor gave this poor orphan. 

Abandoned, unnamed babies in Japan are named by the city/town's mayor. Masanori was named with the kanji "white-direction correct-law" in hopes that he would become a law-abiding citizen (unlike his unknown parents). The Mayor is an asshole.

No, it would be up to Spinner and Shigaraki to name this kid, and they would pick a terrible name. A kirakira name. 

I'm thinking 繋, meaning “connection”, read as “Tsuna” (standard kun'yomi reading) or “Zuna”, (based on tsuna but non-standard, highly unconventional).

This character/word, because it references the kid’s quirk - Adhesion:

Decay's spreading effect + Gecko's sticking trait. Any object Masanori touches and remains in contact with will adhere with anything the object is also touching. If he touches a sidewalk, everyone on it will be stuck and trapped, unable to move their feet.

But also the kanji itself can have its parts connected to Shigaraki and Spinner’s own names:

Shigaraki’s the one who picked the kanji (and if the poor kid is named ‘Zuna’, Spinner’s the one who gave the kanji the unusual “cool” reading.) (Leaning slightly towards Zuna. Sorry)

(Or maybe they’ll go with ‘Kei’ or ‘Kakeru’. idk!)

THE HOW

(Somewhat NSFW) 

Kid came about because Shigaraki and Spinner had sex. A lot of sex. To be more specific…

Spinner, blessed with quirk/heteromorph biology that I completely made up, has a cloaca that houses both hemipenes and—unknown to him—organs that can produce eggs and carry/lay them. He was born AMAB, raised as a man in a rural area that did not care to know anything about heteromorph medicine, identifies as a man, and so did not ever know getting pregnant was possible for him. 

Shigaraki fucked his slit/cloaca without a condom, and that's how Zuna came into being. Total surprise, no chance to get an abortion because no one knew anything until one day Spinner got severe abdominal pain and popped out an egg.

I summarized this very nonchalantly but it was terrifying for Spinner.

In the Masanori timeline, Shigaraki was away for the AFO surgery and Spinner dealt with this with the League and a few selected MLA/PLF members. In the Zuna timeline, Shigaraki postponed the surgery to spend time with his new boyfriend Spinner, and so was there for Spinner; and so—

THE POSTPARTUM 

The MLA heteromorph doctors saw to Spinner. The egg was put into incubation. 

Mr. Compress said, Well, Shigaraki, you'll have to take responsibility, as the father. …The other father, in this case.

And Shigaraki said, Yeah. 

I even sketched out a comic for this. Here’s the first three panels:

Never polished up the rest, but my draft went like this:

Spinner: An egg... a kid, of all things… What am I going to do?

Shigaraki, watching the incubator: …We. It’s my kid too. 

Spinner, clutching at his head even harder: ...Shigaraki. I'm sorr—

Shigaraki: Stop. I already said I'll take responsibility. 

Spinner, finally lifting his head a bit, glancing over at Shigaraki: …

Spinner, sighing, dropping his arms, looking up at the incubator: …I hate this. I don't want this. 

Spinner, shoulders hunching tighter, staring hollowly at the egg: I don't know anything about kids. I never wanted one, in case they ever turned out looking like…

Shigaraki, turning to look at Spinner, waiting for him to continue: ...

Spinner: I don't know how to be a dad, or parent, or whatever. I don't know anything at all. 

Spinner: ...…But... 

Spinner, hands shaking slightly: I don't want them to ever grow up feeling like a hollow shell.

Shigaraki, watching Spinner for a few more moments, before looking back at the egg; and then, voice low and soft: We'll make sure of that. 

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No idea how this magical AU timeline works. When does the AFO surgery happen? Does it happen? When do the PLF launch their attack? How does the plot move forward??? I don't know! 

I think Hawks gets killed though, after being discovered as a spy. Twice lives, Heroes raid is postponed, and eventually, the egg hatches. 

THE KID

Toga: He’s cute! 

Twice: Yeah! Surprising since he came from you two! 

Spinner: Doesn't really look like either of us. 

Shigaraki: …He's got my family's black hair.

Zuna is a noisy child, crying at every little thing. But he seems to like being held by Shigaraki more - quiets down when he’s bundled up in Shigaraki’s arms. 

All the kid does is sleep, cries, eats, shits. Babies are boring yet a handful. ReDestro provides nannies, but Spinner and Shigaraki end up sticking with the kid most of the time.

They considered giving the kid away. ReDestro offers to anonymously find a very good home - one completely unassociated with the MLA or Villains, overseas even, so he can grow up completely normal, never knowing anything. A clean and permanent severance. Logically, it was clearly the right thing to do, and yet… That felt like abandonment, and it faded as a choice. 

If they were still homeless, still aimless, keeping the kid would be a terrible choice. But now they have money, they have an army. They've got space and resources and options and support. Funny how that can change everything.

Post Deika, Shigaraki feels free, clear-headed, ready to take on the world. I think he would take the ‘having a kid’ thing better than expected; at least feels like he has a handle on it, able to take it step by step. There are of course darker emotions that swirl up inside of him, but he always makes the decision to destroy them before they surface. That does manifest in being rather aloof and detached towards the kid; and sure, like in canon he might still have his own crying kid repressed inside of him; but also like in canon, his care and protectiveness of the League overwhelms that - and so it would be the same for Zuna. Still… 

Thinking of Zuna as his son - feels wrong. Shigaraki doesn't care for having a son, wanting a son. (He doesn't think much of fathers, either - people caught up in a delusion of being a Father, deciding everything based on what they think is best for everyone, feeling entitled to the family’s hearts and lives, justifying that it's all done out of some selfless shared dream)

“His kid.” Somewhat better, but still strange. Shouldn't have a kid. “The kid” - how he’s been thinking of Zuna so far. “A kid he recklessly made” - much more truthful. Feels more fitting. But unfair to the kid.

—“Spinner's kid.” Suddenly that framing makes Shigaraki feel more protective. Spinner’s kid. Their kid.

“Our kid” - Born into this rotten world. Born to two villains, two messed up criminals who want to destroy everything. Ready to fight to destroy. 

(To become free. To be able to live as they see fit.)

Shigaraki thinks, brat’s gonna need all the protection he can get.

(A hero of his own.)

I think Shigaraki knows he's likely not going to be a good parent, but he’s determined not to be a shitty one. He refuses. 

As for Spinner, he’s def doing worse than Shigaraki. 😢 He’s terrified, he’s in a mess he can't fix, he thinks he’s ruined Shigaraki’s life, he knows he’s ruined the kid’s life. He promised himself he wouldn't have kids, he swore long ago that he wasn't going to bring someone into this shit world. But he did so anyway…

He has a kid. He has a child. He has a son…

He can't do this. There’s no way things will go well for a kid with him as a father. A kid with him and Shigaraki Tomura as parents—

Shigaraki’s kid. Shigaraki’s son. 

Spinner thinks, if I can think of you like that... 

He's probably still gonna mess Shigaraki’s kid up somehow, but he won't, he refuses, he’ll protect Zuna with everything he's got.

Spinner and Shigaraki should probably sit down together and talk about this lmao 

(If the ‘thinking of the kid as the other’s kid’ seems a bit iffy, it is! But they'll start to think of Zuna as his own person soon enough, and want to care for him on that basis.) 

THE SPINARAKI

Spinner and Shigaraki do eventually sit down together and talk about everything. Have to, at some point, especially given the PLF’s plans; and just from having people in their lives now that have strong connections to them, and therefore to Zuna as well. Contingency plans, guardians in the event of death, who to hand off the kid to for the afternoon, who to force to change diapers. 

I think Zuna would put a strain on their relationship at first - mostly Spinner thinking he should leave Shigaraki alone, he's caused enough trouble. Meanwhile Shigaraki wonders if he can use the kid as an excuse to skip meetings and most other human interactions to spend more time alone with Spinner. But like I said - they will end up having an honest talk and navigate to the next step, whatever that is. 

Also both learned a big lesson about safe sex. 

AS PARENTS

I've played around with this concept a few times before - In Eri, Awry, where the League takes in Eri; and in this draft of another Spinaraki kid (Aoi) they adopt years post-war (AU where the ending doesn't suck). Haven't actually written/shown it. 😋 

I think Shigaraki would be pretty permissive in a way that makes other people raise eyebrows, but a lot of it is that he would know and trust his kid a great deal, he encourages them to be independent and learn from their mistakes, and he's got no interest in dictating their life, because after all it's their life. Certainly there’ll be the choices he wouldn't have made himself, and there will be dumb fiascos that his kid should've known better than to make or get involved in; but the parent he is is not have them fly his path/the path he thinks they should take, but to teach the kid how to fly the way they want, how to fall right, and how to get back up. And he’ll always be there at rock bottom - and every other step - to help them if/when they need it. 

From my notes about Aoi:

Being an innately perceptive kid, he was on his best behavior for Spinner and Shigaraki, at least until Shigaraki pulled him aside and told him he's free to be a brat.

Aoi, a kid with a 'villainous' quirk and some mischievous tendencies, gets in trouble, gets put into community service, which is a framing device for the ways Hero Society has changed for the better in how they respond the crimes and treat at-risk individuals, and at the end of it he is inspired to apply to UA to become a Hero/Special Responder himself

Aoi: I’m applying to UA. Shigaraki, Spinner: …Is this your version of teenage rebellion? Aoi: Kinda, yeah, I guess. But I really do want to go. I wanna be a Hero. Shigaraki, Spinner: Of course you do. But fine. Do whatever you want.

Which is to say, yeah. Shigaraki has no expectations that Zuna would be his successor. If Zuna wants to be - huh, but okay. If not - great, yeah. (If this ever comes up in the PLF, Shigaraki would be looking at ReDestro from the corner of his vision and saying, no, none of that legacy shit. 🥲)

As for training… Yes, has to happen, because kid needs to learn how to protect himself, needs to learn how to handle and control his quirk. No need for Zuna to become Strongest if he doesn't want to be, though; but if Zuna wants to fight or ambush him or even just play pranks, Shigaraki would indulge him (but Shigaraki won't hold back in his defense or offense).

Re: War meetings… would begin with Shigaraki handing the (toddler) kid his phone to play with; then end up playing the phone game with his kid when the meeting drags on too long. Really, the true harsh training Shigaraki (and Spinner) instills in Zuna is how to be a gamer.

They would not be above this:

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As a parent, Spinner would worry a lot more. I don't think he would be strict, exactly, but he would be a bit judgy and fussy; ultimately, though, like Shigaraki, he does think one should make their own path in life, whatever it may be. For his kid, after he develops the fierce love for them that he would have, he badly wants for them to be safe, to have everything be right; but when confronted with the strength of their conviction or will (because after all they have Spinner and Shigaraki as parents), whether he approves or not, he will help them however he can and let them go. Just make sure they come back. 

All that said. Shigaraki and Spinner would toe the line of being slightly neglectful. If the kid wants to only eat cup ramen, fine, just make sure to add some veggies to it. Junk food? Don't be dumb about it and eat too much and end up throwing up. R-rated scary movie at age 12? Don't say we didn't warn you. I can see, like, sometimes Spinner and Shigaraki might be gone for a whole day or two or three because crime, trusting the kid to handle things at home; and more than a few times, they've just given the kid money to go to the arcade/mall/whatever so they can have alone time.

They're def not the most open and affectionate of people, nor the best at knowing when to apply the brakes, whether it's for themselves or for the kid. Ideally, the kid is more sensible than the both of them, cuz someone has to be - which is, of course, not the kid's job. If not (more sensible)—well, at least the three of them are in it together.

THE AUs

All the stuff I wrote above is from the magical timeline in which I guess the destruction of Japan is delayed a year or two so Zuna can be not a tiny baby when all the fighting starts. Easier to wage a war if the kid has been weaned from the bottle? idk anything about child rearing 👍🏼. 

Unsure what things would look like if the PLF succeeds, though! Things in general + how Zuna’s upbringing would look like in such a world. 

In the timeline where the Villains are defeated - but they live - I want the world to look like @stillness-in-green’s New Ouman fanfics. The world truly changed for the better, where most of the Villains survived (and escaped custody), eking out a new existence in the shades. Here Spinner and Shigaraki (and the League/PLF) would steal Zuna/Masanori back, and though their resources have drastically been reduced, it'll be fine. They're healing; they’ve got each other; the tomorrows will keep coming and this time the light is not so glaring and the shadows not so dark. 

(Unlike Aoi, though, I think… Zuna/Masanori would still not want to be a Hero/Special Responder. Would be more of a creative type.) 

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Thanks for the ask!!!!!!!!!!! Really, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have this Jin + Tenko AU in which Jin (16 years old!) encounters Tenko during The Walk and takes him in.

Here is the original concept and fic of Jin seeing an injured little boy and reaching out.

Here is the draft mini continuation of that.

Here is the duo a few years later, turning to villainy, as described in a police interview from the POV of the Rooftop Trio.

And here is a 'new' dumb comic sketch of Jin and Tenko another year or two later, encountering Mr. Compress. Jin and Compress (JinPress!!!) start dating, but... Well, families are tough to deal with.

Sako on his weekly call with the Sako-Harima fam (a bunch of them) about his new bf...and bf's kid:

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More Masanori.

Got curious about ashes in Japan, and did some research.

For fun, I imagine like, Masanori, with Deku's help, somehow ends up with Spinner's ashes, finally claimed from the Tartarus 2.0 ossuary, probably due to some whim (coming from Deku) near Obon or at the end of the year.

Unfortunately, there's nothing Masanori can do with the ashes: there's no family grave plot Masanori can put them in; kid's got no money to buy one; Iguchi family disowned Spinner, hence them never coming to claim his remains; even if he knows where it is, All Might is kinda uncomfortable giving out the location of the Shimura gravesite to put Spinner in there (and besides, it's really more Nana's husband's family - Kotarou's family isn't buried there, and definitely not Shigaraki); and Masanori himself feels it's kinda weird to keep the ashes with him in his dorm room - and feels sad to let Spinner spend the afterlife in a small one-room space after nearly a lifetime of doing just that.

But that gives Deku the idea to spread the ashes over Mt. Fuji, where he killed and scattered Shigaraki died. But it turns out Mt. Fuji is government or private property, and they would need permission to scatter the ashes. They're unlikely to get a yes, but it also risks exposing Masanori's identity.

(The two of them still end up visiting the site where Deku and Shigaraki's final battle took place. Very awkward as Deku tries to explain to Masanori what truly happened while an memorial/informational sign nearby celebrates the site as the end of the war and the death of Shigaraki/AFO, complete with photos.)

In the end, they end up returning Spinner's ashes back to the Tartarus 2.0 ossuary because there's no place outside to bury him - at least at the moment; maybe once Masanori grows up, he can do something about it.

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But this misadventure is often how any attempts at 'bonding' between Deku and Masanori ends up. Great material for black comedy. 👌🏼 Does always bring them a tiny bit closer to a mutual understanding tho?

If an inmate dies in prison, families and relatives get notified to retrieve the body. If the family refuses to claim the body, the detention center gives the cremation (the main type of funeral in Japan). Then the ashes and urn is housed in a cemetery or ossuary managed by the Ministry of Justice. [x] [x] [x] [x]

After a cremation, ashes are often entombed/buried in a family grave. It is technically legal in Japan to scatter ashes, but where to do so on land depends local laws on permission from the property owner. Apparently most of Mt. Fuji is owned by shrines/national parks/government, and scatterings are denied, so usually the ashes are scattered at sea in view of Mt. Fuji. [x] [x] [x] [x]

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Decorating Christmas cookies.