#ninjago speculation

[grilledcheese-savage]

I will genuinely be a little peeved if they don’t even have a little conversation around rogue getting his memories back. I mean really, why would he willingly get his memories back without further development? Because while yeah, rogue stated Nya makes him want to be a better person, that doesn’t necessarily mean that will be easy for him.

Like, it’s easy to be a bystander or do evil, it’s hard to make the right choice. We have been shown many times in this show for that to be the case. I don’t want him to just get his memories back and it fixes everything and there’s no fallout in any way. Because that makes no sense right? Why have all this build up for the writers to make an easy way out. It doesn’t even fit the message of the show. I trust them too much 😂.

Why would a character fighting for his autonomy so hard, still denying his past by the end of the season, choose to give that up so easily? HE WOULD NOT. He would fear losing himself as he knows it. Or maybe he’d do it because he doesn’t know himself, and wants to find out? That would take a lot of character development for me to easily believe that. And I know this is a kids show, but with Cole’s whole ghost arc, I believe they could handle just a little bit more development before ruining my favorite Jay arc so far. 😭🙏

I could see them maybe betraying him and forcing him to get his memories back. Or having an episode where they argue back and forth about it, until he convinces himself to do it. That seems ninjago-ish. But even then idk. It’s sad either way. Maybe he’d want his memories back to make himself “good again” fixing his shatterspin? That’s also really sad when you think about it for more than two seconds. He’s changing himself for someone he only met a couple weeks ago at most. Literally a couple days ago he was suggesting they “take out” dozens of people he literally worked with. Dude’s evil. A lil bit.

I need to know how they will do this. I saw the trailer. I’m concerned.

[psychologicalwarclaire]

Lord Ras comes for Jay and the tiger man and his creepy wolf cult clearly have issues, but Jay joins him anyway.

Why?

Maybe it's the feeling of being part of a group again. Maybe it's the yearning for adventure that thrums through his bones stronger than the lightning. Maybe he's seen the scars that trace his body and sees these warriors who sought him out specifically and thinks he's put two and two together. Maybe it's the bickering of the man of smoke and childish sorceress that feels like an aching echo of... something.

Maybe it's the feeling of a blue suit on his skin, coordinated with the suits around him.

Maybe the thrill of doing something that's not paperwork begins to fill that hole inside of him. Maybe he's too good with the weapon in his hands to ignore the way he's an effective killer fighter.

So maybe Jay stays with these twisted people, this violent cult, the dark group, because somewhere deep inside, villains are familiar. A dark, warped reflection of familiar, but familiar nevertheless.

Maybe he stays because he'd rather feel like he was doing some wrong than doing nothing at all.

[kalkiesoo]

jay freely tells nya that he loves her, but what if, in this season, to save jay (bring his memories back or smthn) we get nya freely telling jay that she loves him,,,

[berryblu-soda]

Ik this is like, waaaaaay out there even as speculation but

Assuming this is the "finale" of the main plotline that's been present throughout everything but the series isn't ending, I'm kind of thinking that they might switch perspectives to newer characters, which could be either a really great move, or what will ultimately doom the show.

Bc lets face it, to get into ninjago now and know exactly what's going on, you have to get through a heck ton of seasons and a special or two, and soon it'll be too much of a deterrent for younger fans to get into it and the viewership might go down.

So what do you do? Play a somewhat risky move and introduce new main characters, let the older ones retire a tad (not get rid of them) and start up new plotlines, they could reuse a lot of the same formula from the first seasons and have the characters slowly get to know each other and uncover the world's secrets (bc this thing has a heck ton of lore), go into their own adventures, etc...

Imagine a group of new and inexperienced ninja who grew up seeing the og ninja in action, I think it'd be really cool :D

(Also would love to see the new elemental master of wind or a young serpentine thrown in there, I think that'd be pretty cool hehe ^^)

[ninjago-happens-here]

Crystalized mmmm

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[rosiehunterwolf]

So I have a question.

We know from season 9 and season 11, that true elemental power is never lost from the user, since we see Lloyd and Kai regain their abilities (I can't explain the Time Twins, tbh. Probably just a issue with lore)

But does this mean that Lloyd could potentially become the Golden Ninja again without having to take the other four's abilities?

I've been discussing this with my sisters, but we can't come to a consensus on this.

Interesting question. Here’s my thought process:

Golden power is a little different than the others. Lloyd got it through defeating the Overlord, who is basically darkness personified, in kind of a “true potential” style way.

During the fight, several comparisons were made between the golden power and light “where there’s light there’s darkness” “not if my light shines bright enough” etc, so Lloyd’s power can seem kind of like the power of light (yes yes I know there’s already an elemental master of light but there’s also an elemental master of shadow, let’s just say Lloyd and the Overlord have alternate versions of those powers just insanely more powerful.)

So Lloyd’s powers were unlocked through his “true potential” but it’s more than that. All the ninja gained a power through their true potential (other than being able to use their elemental powers without the weapons) but that quickly faded after the potential was over. Lloyd’s stayed until it was forcibly removed, then given away, so his is obviously different in that aspect too. I think he got it specifically by fighting the Overlord. If he had fought another villain that wasn’t the embodiment of darkness, I don’t think he would have gotten the powers.

Now I’d also like to point out something about Garmadon in the Oni trilogy. He gained his powers by fighting Lloyd, and his powers definitely seemed to have some connection to darkness as well, even if different from the Overlord’s. This seems to imply that Lloyd still has connection to light- whether that means there’s still a spark of the golden power somewhere inside of him, I don’t know. But if Garmadon could get his powers back by defeating Lloyd, wouldn’t it make sense that the reverse is true, also?

Now, to be clear I’m not saying that I think Lloyd could get his golden power back by fighting Garmadon. Garmadon isnt “pure darkness” like the Overlord was, especially towards the end of season 10 when he started turning from an evil character to more of a neutral one. But I definitely think that Garmadon is like a less powerful version of the Overlord right now, and that Lloyd could get his powers back in some capacity by defeating him- which is why he was able to get his powers back and drain Garmadon’s in season 9.

So, what does this mean for the golden power? Could Lloyd potentially get it back? I think, under the right circumstances, he could. If he fought the Overlord again, or another creature of darkness, I would say that it certainly wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility.

So, could he regain the golden power? I think so. Will he regain the golden power? Almost certainly not.

Nor do I want him to. Golden power was removed for a reason, it was insanely powerful and made Lloyd way too OP. The show would’ve been boring had he kept it, and Lloyd probably would’ve continue to have even more of a focus than he does right now, taking time and energy away from other characters. Taking it away was the right choice, and to give it back would be counterproductive. If it ever does come back, I can guarantee it will be temporary, but honestly, if that happened, I would assume they would’ve done it in season 10 because of the whole legacy thing. They didn’t, though, so I can hardly see it happening now. But, it opens up some interesting ideas for fan speculation, fanfiction, and AUs.

Thanks for the ask! This was interesting to think about.