#non-shippers

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No no—I think I’ve created something truly profound here and the answer is 42. 

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You know, I am stunned at the lack of logic and critical thinking in this fandom. It’s like those with extreme opinions have such strong confirmation bias that they can’t get out of their own way. When I read some of these posts on lots of different blogs, I am struck at the logical questions that are never truly answered- well except by ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies and extensive conspiracy theories.

1. Wouldn’t a TV show that’s not on a well-known and popular streaming service love the PR they’d get if their costars were actually in love and in a real life relationship? What value does the production company gain by keeping them hidden for almost 10 years? I can’t logically see that it would bring more profits. So we’re supposed to love a loyal, brave, committed, and family-oriented Jamie, but we need a single, sexy Sam to sell the show?? Cognitive dissonance anyone?

2. Now that it’s well established that Sam and Caitriona essentially ARE Outlander and are EPs, wouldn’t they have the power to say no more if this “ narrative” was true? If they quit, there’s no OL. Couldn’t they refuse to film anything else if they aren’t allowed to tell the truth (if it’s hidden)? It’s interesting that Ron and Terri are married, Maril and Matt have twins together, but S and C were forbidden to be together? I would think that could be a legitimate lawsuit. Didn’t they renegotiate new contracts since the first season?

3. Do people actually believe that Sam and Caitriona are good people, philanthropic people, hard working entrepreneurial people, wonderful human beings but at the same time think that either of them would actually lie about their own children? With Sam’s childhood, people honestly think he would deny his kids AND be away from them for months? That they both would lie and deceive us about her father’s funeral?

4. So it’s been 10 years and NOT ONE person associated with either of them has publicly and clearly stated, with no doubts or other possible connotations, that they are really together? No costars? No personal friends? No teacher of their kids? No hospital personnel where the kids were born? No extras on OL? No crew members- even those that have been gone long enough that any NDA they signed about the production would have expired? No hotel staff where they may have traveled with their kids? No former “fake gfs” who might be pissed? No friends of “ fake gfs” that want to defend their friend and set the record straight? Not one person who has been associated with OL who might just think this is harmful to children? No photos of them with kids in public- clear photos, not reflections or someone in the background that we cannot clearly identify? Not videos where we cannot tell who is actually there? Wouldn’t someone somewhere have gotten a photo of them together as a family? In ten years? Have you P, seen evidence that I haven’t? I have seen nothing but reflections, blurry images, unidentifiable people in the background. Am I missing something?

5. About their chemistry- they aren’t the only actors I have ever seen that have great chemistry but no real romantic relationship. There are lots of them. It’s like people don’t know what actors actually do. So much of chemistry in acting between actors is about trust and respect for the work. Even some of the best chemistry has been between actors who didn’t really like each other in real life, but were able to use their chemistry and their talent to create characters we believed loved each other.

6. Lastly, I can’t wrap my brain around liking and respecting these two actors for their work and for their real lives, while claiming every day they are lying to me.

People see what they want to see or what they need to see to support their position.

Occam’s Razor tells me that the simplest explanation is often the best one.

Hopefully when OL finally ends, these two will get some peace.

Now, watch the “but what about ______? “start.

Bless you Anon for summarizing everything I and countless other SANE fans have been saying in the Outlander fandom for the last 9 years. The thing is...some Extreme Shippers continue to ship for a few reasons. I put them in these categories:

1. OG shippers who have invested SO many YEARS in their SamCait fantasy ship. They want to "save face." It's embarrassing to acknowledge that you were fed and believed a LIE for so long. Their egos can't handle it, so they'd rather double down, and find a way to pretzel their brains around things that are obvious facts to the rest of us. They don't want to feel like they "lost." So, they just keep on denying the TRUTH and the mountains of evidence showing that Sam and Cait are not a couple in real life. The alternative is too painful to them. It's been too much time, too much energy, too much of themselves invested in the ship, and they are missing something in their real lives. The ship fills that void.

2. New fans to Outlander who have recently discovered it. They've gone down the rabbit hole of shipper Tumblr, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter X accounts and they haven't climbed their way out yet to blogs like mine, and other Non-Shippers.

3. The Fake Shippers who pretend to be shippers to MAKE MONEY off those still clinging on to the life boats. There are still bloggers and shipper groups who know they have a captive audience in shippers holding out hope that some of what the original shipper leaders sold them might actually be true. These fake shippers manipulate gifs, pictures, videos, SHOW shippers what they WANT to see. They keep them hanging on with podcasts, magazine, subscriptions. They sell them trips to Scotland, conventions t-shirts, mugs, daily "proof" that Sam and Cait secretly live together with their 5 bairns. And because con artists are experts at conning people, they make everything believable...and some poor souls buy what they're selling. Literally BUY 💵 what they're selling. Sadly, this fandom is filled with a lot of retired women with disposable income, who are lonely or disillusioned with their own lives. And they are easy pickings for the money hungry fake shippers.

So, in summary, the reason there are still some SamCait Shippers is a combination of fake shippers SELLING them the fantasy AND women needing to STILL hold onto the fantasy. With a few actually mentally unwell women thrown in here and there, who have diagnosable mental health issues.

It's actually quite sad. If only they had gotten off the ship with the rest of us years ago, they could have been enjoying celebrating REAL love. Instead, they're on a constantly rocky ship that causes them disappointment more often than not. Here, on terra firma, no one needs Dramamine. It's lovely. Because it's REAL. 💞

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Thoughts for the day... 🤔💭

I find it really strange that some people still believe that the Outlander fandom is purely made up of people who either believe Sam and Cait are a couple or don’t.

Although I am strongly of the former opinion myself, I know that there are umpteen shades of shipping in this fandom.

Some people, like me, are fictional shippers. Jamie and Claire are my OTP forevzzz! ☺️❤️

Others ship other fictional couples in the Outlander universe, Bree and Roger, Fergus and Marsali etc.

Some people have a wishful ship of real people, most often Sam and Cait because they are truly beautiful friends and their bants is hilarious! but this might equally apply to Sophie and Rick or Cesar and Lauren etc.

I just want to make it 100% clear that I do not have a problem with any of these beliefs. If you want to fan over your ship on here, go for it!

Where I draw the line is when bloggers break the forth wall, harass actors online, tag them in disresptful comments, call them liars, bully and ridicule their SO’s for no other reason than that their very existence is in complete contradiction to the ship.

If you belong to that last group then my blog really isn’t for you. To me, that is just the epitome of being a spoilt brat, chucking your toys out the pram because you didn’t get your way. Don’t be an asshole. There is really no need. You can still wishfully ship, write your fanfic and squee with like-minded bloggers about your OTP without trying to make real people feel bad. They don’t owe you anything. Da be a dick.

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Looking for my casual shippers/non-shippers out in this big wide internet.

Anyone else: not ship characters but likes cute stuff with ships (me) or: ships characters sometimes, but doesn't mind other ships most of the time or: don't ship characters at all.

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How non-shipper view me when I introduce my gay ships

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Let's Be Outlander Fans First

Ever since the short AmazonUK Q&A with Sam and Cait this afternoon I have had a bitter taste in my mouth. Not about Jess’ ask being answered first or even it being the Question that Tumblr put in the tweet that Sam reblogged. It’s not because the SamCait shippers took these things as a victory or that they have been (or so I hear) squealing and celebrating like it’s 1999 that their Queen Supreme Tinhat-Shipper was somehow recognized.

This rock in my gut is because I LET the shippers ruin today for me as a fan.

This is about me wanting to take back my ability to not be worried or give a single bit of a damn about what shippers are saying or doing or lying about or anything else while I could be just enjoying MY OUTLANDER FANDOM.

With Season 2 fast approaching I want to confront these issues with myself now instead of letting the enjoyment of the show I have waited almost a year to return be tainted in any way whatsoever by these fandom parasites we NST challenge and deal with every single day.

This is not only a personal problem but also a group problem I think most of us active NST bloggers share. And I don’t know about all of you, but I want to find a solution now and try to figure out a way we can set aside worrying about the S-Shipper’s and all their drama enough so we can ACTUALLY be fangirls ourselves first and foremost.

We have a month of awesome press and new S2 details and Outlander events and promos and THEN we have the show. I do not want to watch 2.01 (or any episode) and cringe when I see a scene between Jamie and Claire Fraser - who are my favorite fictional couple of all time - because I’m thinking about how the Tinhat-Shippers will make fanart of and spin the scene to meet their agenda.

No.

I WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.

And today was a wake up call for me. Today I was excited for the Q&A. I planned my lunch break around it and I couldn’t wait. But all morning we NST had been talking about it. Worried about what kind of drama would unfold during or because of it. (And we weren’t wrong) Then it finally started and BAM! First question was one of Jess’ many she submitted (no, I’m not guessing. I told you all I went and looked at her blog last night, she wrote she had submitted more than a few and encouraged other shippers to do the same). And what do I do? I stopped enjoying the Q & A and wondering WTF was up with Sam’s hair and made a post about it. Then I go back and, no lie, I am in dread after every question that the next one chosen will be from another shipper. I was cringing and just waiting the whole time while reading these answers and wondering how the shippers would or could possibly spin them. Then I got a few anons and well, you all know how it played out.

But see, even before the Q&A started, I was thinking about the shippers. And throughout the Q&A slowly this fight, this constant battle we are in with them was sucking every bit of enjoyment due to Sam & Cait and Outlander out of it.

Look, this WHAT WE DO is important. It is important to me personally and I believe it is important to the fandom. Even if we don’t always see it or feel that way I truly believe that. But sometimes I just wish we had an off switch. A time where we say “CODE OUTLANDER” and just refuse to let ourselves think it be affected by or talk about the joy sucking S-Shippers. A time out.

Because when we see this mission we fight so hard for overtakes us, what good does it do if we can’t ENJOY the things we are trying to preserve and protect? We don’t do what we do for glory or recognition, and Lord knows standing up against the odds and numbers we do is largely thankless, but we are doing it because WE ARE FANS. And if we don’t let ourselves actually BE those fans sometimes because we are so distracted by this tumor on the fandom that is the S-Shipper’s and all of their lies and bad behaviors, then what have we really been fighting for in the first place?

I’m sure this is babbly (as usual) and I’m know I maybe haven’t been able to say this in a way that truly makes my meaning come across, but I had to post this and get it out there so we can discuss it and try to work on it as a group. Because I think this is something that even if we all aren’t conscious of yet, when S2 starts and we see this eating away more and more until we find almost no enjoyment in the fandom at all because of all of the bullshit… Well, I won’t let that happen. Not on my watch. So I want to talk about this now. About us TAKING BACK OUR FANDOM FOR US.

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Omg I totally agree!!! I feel like Eren and Armin are more like family, it feels kind of uncomfortable to me to put them in a romantic relationship! I'm so glad someone shares this opinion!!! ♡♡

We’re a rarity in this world my friend, we’re the endangered species of “non-shippers” Our people were never a many few, most see us as heretics in the world of anime. But thou shall not fear my friend! We few protect each other! We will not be swayed by the masses! Our opinion is just as valid as their own!

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