Hey! :D i was wondering why you thought tos spirk was awful? like i can totally see why you dislike/ are just not into aos spirk (i'm more for aos mckirk but only if we don't go by only how the movie characterizes the characters lol) but I was just curious why you feel tos spirk is awful as well (really just curious) Hope you have a great day!
I actually have no problem with TOS!Spirk and even ship it a little bit. It’s not like, OMG OTP type ship for me, but I do think their relationship in TOS was fantastically well developed and thoroughly enjoyed their dynamic
It’s AOS!Sprik that I find gross, annoying, and boring as hell. Like I don’t really ship anything in AOS except my crackship that is Chulu. I like McKirk (though they side line McCoy a fuckton in favor of Spirk even tho McCoy is Spock’s friend too in TOS but w/e!) a bit and I don’t mind Spuhura though the movies in general treat the female characters fucking awful (I’m still bitter they hijacked Uhura’s moment in Into Darkness because GUNS SHOT OUTS are more important than watching her work her amazing linguistic skills also she didn’t get a “moment” like the others did in ST).
I think what annoys me is that Spirk as far as the AOS movies go is just so thoroughly underdeveloped and not at all interesting to me but the movies keep shoving it at us without any sort of subtly whatsoever. It’s also a relationship that’s super stereotypically masculine coded like omg the amount of AGGRESSIVE MASCULINITY that exists in the new Star Trek movies is APPALLING. I could damn near choke on it.
Like Kirk in TOS wasn’t the perfect character, and he had hooked up with a number of women, but he wasn’t outwardly disrespectful towards them. AOS!Kirk is a frat boy. Like that’s it. There’s no other layers to him that a frat space cowboy he’s the most basic of all male power fantasies and it ruins his character for me. Because the movies aren’t focused on things like exploration, philosophy, or politics, but rather explosions, big battles, and half naked women, Kirk as the leading character reflects that shift in attitude.
He’s got no thought for consequences, he’s openly reckless at the cost of other people, he’s belligerent, rude, sexist, faces no consequences for his own choices or reckless behavior, and the narrative repeatedly awards him for it. It’s so damn frustrating but I LOATHE AOS!Kirk I really do. He’s boring, he’s dull, he’s an awful person. And b/c JJ Abrams and co are so afraid of genuine human emotion all the movies emotional scenes must be followed by some battle of some kind.
Like to incite an emotional response from Spock the narrative 1. HAD to kill his mother, and 2. make him literally RAGE MONSTER all over Kirk because breaking down a crying wouldn’t have worked because ew that’s like girly emotion
Same with their big hand glass scene in Into Darkness which was a total undeserved rip off the same scene in WoK. They didn’t deserve that fucking scene and I’ll hold to that forever. I still have troubling seeing why these two men like each other that’s not connected to ~destiny~ and obligation. They don’t TALK to each other, unless they’re bickering and no I don’t find unbalanced aggressive bickering between characters cute I just don’t. It doesn’t make them “omg ~married” when old married couples bicker it’s because they’ve been through shit together, they have had years together, it’s laced with affection because of their shared experiences. You can’t say the same for pairings like AOS!Spirk
So I didn’t get why Spock was just SO SAD his friend Kirk was dying because they barely had any scenes in between talking with whitewashed Cucumber Khan that held any sort of emotional weight at all. Also his ~single manly tear~ was following by one of the most ridiculous MAN SCREAMS ever where he ran down Khan to beat his ass because, once again, if it’s too emotional than it’s not manly enough so we must follow all emotion with MANLY AGGRESSION
I forgot a ship I actually do ship in AOS other than Chulu and if this gets me hate lol fuck it but TOS!Spock/AOS!Kirk because they’re scenes together were the only ones that weren’t followed by in your face AXE levels of dudebro aggression. Like Nimoy was brilliant in bringing light back to the AOS franchise and providing some much needed softness to the series. So yeah I liked his dynamic with AOS!Kirk waaaaaaaaaaay more than with AOS!Spock because AOS!Spock doesn’t even seem to like Kirk let along have much interest in him as a person. They don’t help each other grow or develop in any interesting ways. They’re thrown together because JJ Abrams and co wanted fan nostalgia that’s it
This isn’t even covering the amount of gross snaps the AOS!Spirk fans does on the regular like side lining Uhura hardcore and hating on her and Carol like the movies do that enough get out of here with that jesus
So to sum up, TOS!Spirk is cool I can chill with that ship, but AOS!Spirk is awful I hate it 0/10 would not recommend










