Paul and Dan on The Book of Joy (by the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and Douglas Abrams)
We talk about standing (not sitting) in the messy world, worrying about how messy the world is, problems that are big and far away, giving of yourself, companionable faith, Paul's suspicions about the story Abrams tells, teaching versus demonstrating, and what if suffering ennobles?
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