#pitt twt

[mermaidrobby]

father daughter of the ED

[kcrlfs]

a long rant about the culture on the pitt twitter, the early season 2 discourse, and the state of the pitt fandom in general.

it genuinely saddens me that a show like the pitt, one that's so needed right now in a country that's currently quite literally systematically reversing course on every progressive reform that's been made for decades and decades, is being torn to shreds regularly on social media by people who ignore all of the things it's doing right. it's never woke enough, it never addresses everything perfectly, no one can sit down and watch more than one episode before jumping online to complain about all the ways they feel like the show has already fucked up, or complain about the ways they're so sure it will fuck up in the weeks to come.

part of the reason why twitter has become so unbearable to me lately is because there are a few accounts on there that absolutely hate this show. they hate it, they think everyone involved in making it is evil, they take every possible opportunity to speak critically about it, they only amplify negative press, and for some reason they continue watching the show.

whether that's to feel morally superior to the people that enjoy it, to hate "ethically" by having full knowledge of what's happening, or (most likely) because consuming it weekly it gives them additional fuel for their complaints, they keep watching. they insist they want nothing to do with this show and it's constantly disappointing them, but they remain some of the loudest people in the entire fandom.

i have no issue with media i enjoy being criticized, and i don't feel guilty for enjoying the work of quote-unquote problematic artists. the issue for me is when it crosses into the realm of what feels like a hate campaign. some of the accusations i've seen leveled at noah wyle, at john wells, at the writers of this show in general are deeply, incredibly over-the-top.

using tracy ifeachor's departure from the show (something we know absolutely nothing about the circumstances of) to accuse the people making the show of being racist and anti-black; alleging that this show was made so that the people at the top could continue years of abuse of their power (something that quite literally no one has claimed); claiming a behind-the-scenes conspiracy to use women of color in order to get people interested in the show and then systematically write them off...

i'm barely even scratching the surface.

to get into the amount of absolutely baseless and insane claims that have circulated would take weeks, and i've genuinely given up hope of ever being able to dismantle all of them. i saw a tweet yesterday that called noah wyle "the most racist man alive." i've seen quote-unquote "fans" of this show writing practical dissertations that read like they hope the women of color on this set are being mistreated so they have additional evidence for their twitter threads. i've seen people saying they "can't wait for the documentary about all of this to come out", and i read that and think... all of what?

the way the pitt was cast means so much amazing, young, diverse undiscovered talent got to be put in the spotlight (people who don't work in the industry may not realize, but it is unbelievably rare for a show to invest so much faith and time and material in new talent). the writer's room includes several women of color whose skill allow the show to feel like it's actually representative of the demographics of the people that make up the healthcare industry. the pitt was the first production to finalize a union contract with their production assistants, a historically underpaid and overworked on-set position. because of the show's format, it employs the same background actors across the entire season, giving background talent months of consistent paid work. so many people involved in the production have raved about the set feeling non-hierarchical, feeling like being part of a theatre troupe, feeling like a place where they're supported both personally and in the work.

and outside of any of that, there's the work of the show itself. i don't believe any art should be above critique even (and especially) if it's portraying current events and systemic issues, but the pitt has made a measurable impact outside of its viewership. healthcare workers say this show has made it easier for their families to understand the work that they do and the way that it stays with them. people have attested that it's opened up conversations for them about things like end-of-life planning and organ donation (a study by USC found individuals were 27% more likely to seek out information about becoming an organ donor after watching this show, and that the impact was particularly great among black audiences, who are historically overrepresented on transplant lists and underrepresented in terms of donors). noah wyle and his mother joined nurses to speak to congress this summer about mental health support for healthcare workers. some of the protocols that were portrayed during the mass-casualty event in season 1 are now being implemented in actual hospital emergency rooms.

at its heart, this is a show about imperfect people doing their best, made by imperfect people doing their best. i desperately, desperately wish for all of us to recognize that none of us are perfect either. none of us are without bias, none of us are free of mistakes, none of us have always acted in ways we're proud of. i see that reflected in the doctors and nurses and patients on this show, and i wish i could see it reflected more often in this fandom as well.

i've been dogpiled plenty on twitter in the past few months for expressing the above, and i'm not naive enough to think that that's not going to happen here as well. i've been called every name in the book, insulted in turns of phrase i've quite literally never heard before in my life, and sent actual death threats. i'm sure the people that have been harassing me relentlessly for months will have an absolute field day with this post as well, but i am at my core a lawyer's daughter who was raised to argue at the dinner table and i don't want to let the the loudest, meanest people control the experience of being a fan of this show.

i think the pitt is important. i think it's important for television and it's important for hollywood and it has the potential to be important for the country, and i would like to see it continue to succeed, and hopefully find an audience that's less obsessed with turning the entire fandom into a war zone & more open to understanding.

[fatherfigure-femme]

trying to exist as a lesbian on the pitt twitter is fucking INSANE. male obsessed losers will get furious at lesbians for simply not caring about men or ships involving men. they have a terrible habit of blaming the lesbian community as a whole for all of their woes and misfortunes and it is incredibly insulting.

and when we try to defend ourselves we are instantly labeled as “mean” and told that WE are actually the male obsessed ones. as fucking if. there’s nothing wrong with liking male characters but you shouldn’t be so insecure in it that literal LESBIANS not caring or even hating them matters to you. peak loser behavior.

[lillynally]

random thoughts on the Pitt fandom

I really think the fandom has become a battlefield. There are factions, alliances about certain topics. In general it’s becoming a blurred space in which opinions and criticism are considered hate and you have to defend your favorite with all you have. I know part of it is in the DNA of fandoms but I’d like you to see how toxic this is.

Hateful comments have been out there since the dawn of time and still they’re weaponized to play victims, until you’re the ones making certain statements. I’m seeing it a lot concerning everything around Supriya Ganesh and her character, as well as Trinity Santos (a little less about Isa, but I’m not sure if it’s just my feed). The takes about the characters transcend fandom discourse and become cruel attacks. Im also seeing a lot of hateful comments towards Noah Wyle that go beyond rightful concerns regarding the show and some of his publicly stated opinions.

It’s really bizarre to me, thinking many of the people that engage in this particular fandom are adults with a fully developed frontal lobe, and yet here we are.

are you sure fandom space is the right place in which you can vomit hate at every given occasion?

also, I want to point out another thing. While certain comments about Supriya’s “exit” from the show were completely out of line (I do not condone death threats), the surge of disappointment and yes, also fury at certain declarations was not uncalled for. And yet, Mohan and Mohabbot fans (of which, like every other fandom, only a small part is composed of people who writes violent threats) are constantly treated like they’re everything that’s wrong with the fandom.

May I remind you that, for the most part, the concerns regard matters of representation of PoC, which is something you’re treating as controversial and unrequited. Might it be because you’re safe and sound with your characters and you don’t care about the rest? Yes. And you’re entitled to because you’re investing in a character that’s very unlikely to be written off. Lucky you. that doesn’t mean you stand on a higher moral ground to judge other fans, or feel entitled to bully your way into pushing other stans away.

Show-wise, I think fandom mentality developed into this all consuming task. You comment and you create art or read fanfics and you look for news and spoilers and the main disservice the show does to this is that out of the moment the show airs there’s very little to discuss about. And we take on cornplating every single sentence that comes out of someone’s phone.

more to that, the type of show doesn’t really allow to develop certain type of romantic relationship which are the core of fandom dramas and so, fanfiction and shows melt together to the point you don’t know what actually aired on screen or its just how the fanedit was cut.

the point is, under the disguise of not needing canon permission to stan or to pair or to create, the show come with this alternate reality that sometimes is accepted as canon more than what the show actually portrays it. And that, to me, is the problem. Cause you certainly don’t need permission to ship two character who barely interacted (Shenvadi? Emma/Park?) or two characters that canonically are not going to engage into a romantic dynamic (would be very surprised to see Hucklerobby happening in screen). And no, you don’t need canon to ship it, but you need to understand the boundary of that thing most likely never happening in screen.

sometimes it’s easier, sometimes it takes on a huge part of the fandom and it’s something that is accepted by popular demand.

either way, it doesn’t give you the entitlement to hate. k bye

[merpinglilac]

pitt twt is hell on earth. I feel much safer here

[champagneforklaroline]

It’s actually wild to me that certain sectors of PittTwt have the unmitigated gall to say things like this about Shawn Hatosy… I’ve been seeing it for two weeks now with all his recent appearances. Say you think he looks best thicker or whatever, but don’t be going around comparing him being leaner now to eating disorder concerns.

Okay, rant over!

[mermaidrobby]

well

[mermaidrobby]

trinity posts to be messy btw