Who would win: White Crown Phoenix or the Living Tribunal?
They are comparable but The Phoenix is slightly more powerful. The Phoenix Force is just way too underrated. the Living Tribunal is ranked higher cause he gets more attention by fans, they really don’t know anything about The Phoenix when we will compare them side by side in feats power so on so forth
Phoenix is one of the oldest cosmic entities in existence being around for millennia and it represents life that has not even been born as well it is the representation of the unlimited power of creation and destruction life death it is an immortal indestructible entity and the manifestation of the prime universal force it was brown in the void between states of being it is the guardian of gods’s creation and it is the nexus of all psionic energies of all realities in the omniverse and it is one of the most feared beings in existence as it is the passion of creation and the child and the will of god toaa
Living Tribunal
it is the supreme authority and judge of the marvel multiverse it is responsible for cosmic balance and justice it is the agent of supreme god toaa and all abstract entities like death infinity eternity galactus and even the celestials who can split a single universe into an infinite multiverse by their will shale creation defeat skyfather Odin who was amped by destroyer armor and Odin sword a sword which can rend infinity make the heavens tremble and slice Yggdrasil an infinite fully formed and complex multiverse which exists on infinite planes of reality and spans the endless space and time continuum and make kubik a being with near limitless power who can destroy the fabric of all existence infinite dimensions and adjacent universe look Like a stupid kid and yet all these beings including abstracts are nothing compared to tribunal they have to obey him
Feats powers statements
The Phoenix Force is life and death creation and destruction itself, without it there would be no planets, no starts, no Eternity not even the gods would exist without the Phoenix Force she has the fires of creation
Let’s see if tribunal has any feats close to this in fact he has
His judgement goes way past eternity
As I said in the starting eternity and all abstracts are nothing to Living Tribunal
Eternity literally fears to lie or disobey him
There have been two occasions where Phoenix force absolutely overwhelmed impressed and harmed fucking pre retcon beyonder
Living tribunal judged pre retcon beyonder and let him remain omnipotent in his beyonder verse but limited his power to the marvel multiverse absurd right😱😱 this dude literally took someone’s omnipotence gave him limited power.
But also on the other hand when cyclops got power of Phoenix no green dark white was able to match god emperor doom who has the power of all beyonders
Phoenix Force exists beyond time and space literally beyond realities and creation
The Phoenix exists beyond infinite realities beyond all immortal Planes of existence and realities
The Living Tribunal exists beyond space time and realities as well
The Phoenix Force is alpha and the omega beginning and the end of creation
Without Phoenix Force there is no life in cosmos or creation everything lives that is touched by a part of it
warps reality and saved the entire omniverse from destruction by healing and containing m’kraan crystal which can destroy the nexus of the multiverse and destroy every single plane of reality across the entire creation if it released its full energy and she was in a massively weakened state
The crystal is the nexus of all realities matter and anti matter in creation
The crystal is way too big to be truly defined
If it explodes it will doom the omniverse
When adman warlock was causing chaos everywhere Lt restored the order
He can end any chaos back to order
Phoenix force has matched Wanda’s chaos magic which reconstructed the infinite multiverse destroyed every plane of reality across entire creation and there are infinite planes of reality and that magic literally threatened the entire creation existence (omniverse) now I couldn’t copy the scan from Reddit so I will tell you the comic name avengers vs x-men# 12
she has literally stopped and saved the infinite multiverse from collapsing and destroying when it was compressed into an infinite singularity and it was only a fraction of Phoenix power
The Tribunal decides the fate of the universe and all abstracts and others have to accept it
Dark Phoenix is omniversal threat
Dark Phoenix is endless and boundless
Tribunal is Said to be omnipotent
The Shikari gods summoned the Phoenix Force to burn the universe into Ash and the recreate a new universe. It also states that the cosmos itself is burning when the Phoenix Force enters it. Every soul melts etc.
Mephisto is scared of tribunal who is marvels satan
The energies of the Phoenix Force transform Galan into Galactus, literally making him the night omnipotent Multiversal being he is
The Tribunal can grant godhood like what he did to silver surfer
Galactus's power “Power Cosmic" comes from the Astral Plane, and the Phoenix Force is the nexus of all psionic energies. Galactus is literally tapping into the forces.. as r Eternity etc in order to exist
He seals Korvac to his reality, and this is the same Korvac that was about to conquer the Infinite multiverse
When Jean touched the Phoenix Force and become WPOTC all the fundamental forces of the universe were frightened of her, including Thanos with the IG
Easily depowered infinity stones
He reversed the gauntlets effect and brought all abstract entities (eternity death infinity and so on) with a mere snap of his fingers
He makes the gems work at his will
When Feron became host of the Phoenix Force and used its powers to project an ancient tower across the omniverse, creating a copy of the tower on every alternate Earth in existence. On Earth-616, the tower was Excalibur's Lighthouse headquarters. These towers formed a permanent alignment and the energy matrix. This is a Omniversal feat.
He holds the brothers yin and yang in his hand. he was the one that created the vastly powerful nigh omnipotent primordial beings who’s energies spawned the entire dc and marvel universes he legit created the brothers for legit experiment
The Phoenix Force does not have unlimited power source, it is the power source, the Phoenix is the source of all creation, rebirth, destruction, mutation, evolution etc. It can do virtually anything..It is the nexus of all psionic energies in all of realities. Which would also mean those with psionic powers tap to the Phoenix Force, and since its creation itself, I would say pretty much all power comes from the Force
Living tribunal cast Judgement upon his 3 faces, what I mean by this is, all 3 faces must agree before delivering the verdict. Vengeance, Necessity, and Equity.
The Phoenix Force can virtually do anything
His ruling and judgement can affect everything in creation
The Living Tribunal was deciding to replace marvel 616 with the ultimate universe
Create an orphan universe in the palm of her hand with a thought and then telekinetically materialize the main Marvel universe (Reality 616) within the palm of her hand atom by atom:
The Living Tribunal can alter time and travel to any moment of creation
As white Phoenix jean grey transcends the white hot room
The WHR is where every being go after the universe, even Eternity and Death itself will be absorbed back into it.. here is Jean stated that the alien race she decimated will be absorbed into the WHR
WHR is beyond entire time and space
Tribunal judges all realities I mean literally all and there are infinite planes of reality and all those resolved are bound to the judgement and have to follow it
They are comparable by judging everything why let’s examine further
here watchers who are all seeing and have lived from the beginning of time itself so they definitely know what they are talking about says that Phoenix is 2nd to toaa
While here The Living Tribunal absorbed protege in his body entirely
This dude is so powerful he claimed to be the new toaa
The Phoenix force has literally amazed pre retcon beyonder (mind you) with her power not only that she absolutely overwhelmed him he was screaming cause the power of Phoenix was way too much for him to bear
While here
Living tribunal judged pre retcon beyonder and let him keep his omnipotence in his realm but limited his power in the marvel multiverse
So these things make them comparable but wait hold on there are still some major factors here you see
All the fundamental force of the multiverse (including Oblivion, Living Tribunal, Death, Eternity) kneeling in font of Stranger when he sought to use the power of the Phoenix Force to recreate all that is and make himself all powerful
Not only that The Phoenix Force when creation is born and when it will cease to exist, it would judge MultiEternity, Living Tribunal etc cause even they would be subject to these two judgement. Same goes for Oblivion, he would be banished outside of all things.
so I believe that Phoenix force is more powerful than living tribunal by a very small margin
but anyways that’s it for my answer thanks for reading what are ur thoughts
