#pro shipping stuff

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Proshippers make it their whole personality that they're proshipper

Meh, I prefer that than to lose my absolute shit everytime someone post a ship I don't like. I mean, can you imagine anything more sad and exhausting? Pro shippers like that are usually young people or new who are enthusiastic about being part of the "community". They will calm down eventually but even if they don't, again, still better hobby than shriek about "child coded adult characters" or whatever fucking nonsense online brats are shrieking now.

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I don’t have the enough elocuency or words good for this, but I feel like the more canon queer shows come out the less people are going to appreciate just simply imagining queer ships. “Why do you want to ship THOSE characters when you could be shipping THIS, that is canon and therefore better!” Like, dudes, just in general, fuck canon. Even when the canon is queer and glorious and epic and actually perfect. Fuck canon. It doesn’t make it better than your fic about Person Who Appeared For Five Second falling in love with Minor Side Character, it doesn’t have more of a right to exist. There was literally never anything wrong about creating absolute fucking bullshit out of thin air and it won’t ever be, even if good queer stories actually became the norm (and we aren’t even CLOSE to that, but still!). Who cares if that story was never a romance? Who cares what the original authors thought or wanted to make? That has nothing to do with what you want to create and imagine or what other people create and imagine. Take inspiration out of mistakes on the editing, create a whole saga out of a meme, make that poetry fic inspired by the mop used to clean the blood off the deck.  It was shameful from the mainstream media industries to shut down and ignore queer stories for so long, but it was never shameful from anyone to finding solace on fanfiction communities and it should never be shameful to actually have some fucking imagination. 

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Why it’s always the people who are “neutral” on the whole discourse the ones who go out of their way to downplay and excuse horrid shit? Like, you will have an enlightened centrist being “omg, why do you all care, you are all 30 losing your shit over a 13 sending you death threats” like… I don’t know what childhood on the internet was like for all of you, but mine somehow didn’t included making death threats into such a normal thing you can just ignore like it never happened. For whatever ignorant bullshit I said when I was 14, I never once thought sending a death threat to anyone was a appropiate response to anything. The actual fuck is wrong with all of you to think that minors reacting this way is just “kids being kids” and not a sign of something seriously fucked up going on. Like holy shit, first of all: you think us old weirdos are the only ones getting that shit? Try you be a fucking 13 year old on the internet innocently sharing fanart of that ship you like, not even making it yourself, and having a bunch of people, many times older than you, coming to tell you to kill youself before you abuse someone, fuck your family, become a predator, or constantly seeing posts after posts of people claiming that is exactly the future that awaits you for daring to like that ship. You think that shit is harmless? You think that minors seeing that aren’t affected? You think that even the minors who do that shit to others are free from recieving the exact same treatment the second they step out of line? Fucking no, they are not, and with that kind of mentality you are all the ones helping out with a environment where that kind of behaviour is not only normalized but preferable to liking the wrong cartoon character. You are not fucking neutral on anything. You are not a wiser than everyone else observer from the mountain who is coming down to speak the truth. You obviously chose a side already and that is the side who will continue to do that shit, and more, without any repercusion or consequences. You are just as much of a fool who cares way too much about this like the rest of us.

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New problematic dynamic unlocked:

Serial killer mind controlling cult leader x Young naive follower willing to kill too.

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One of the things I hate the most after the “anti effect” is that any social justice point they want to bring out is very quickly weaponised, trivialized and turn into complete mud without any meaning.  We can never actually talk about unfortunate implications, about different ways to portrait a same issue, about the nuance between something coming from one context or from another, because we are all too busy accusing each other of being whatever, reassuring that you aren’t, having to explain why that doesn’t make sense until nobody knows which was the problem on the first place. Like, media criticism is good. I love to read and hear people talk about the different interpretations they have about the same piece of media. I love to learn about how different narratives can affect different groups of people. All of that is great! Even if they contradict each other, because subjectivity is a wonderful thing. But it’s so annoying see any of those points, that may even be good and important to listen to, be completely buried under petty ship wars and people who want to feel the “wokest” just so they don’t feel bad when they harass someone.

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Fiction is a good place for escapism. But it’s also a good place to learn. It’s always been both, and it always will be both.

I read this phrase on a article and it had plenty of thing I disagreed on, but that one on particular got me on the mood so you are all suffering my rambling now. You shouldn’t be learning from fanfiction. Yes, fiction can teach us a lot of things. Yes, fiction can affect how he view the world, other people and maybe even ourselves, and yes, fiction can be a learning experience, but this is the thing: it shouldn’t be the only one. And if it is, then that is a bad thing because we are not teachers, we are not your conselor, we are not experts on mental health, we didn’t not set up for educating anyone on anything. The article argues that every adult has a responsability towards younger people and, to a point, I agree. But that responsability doesn’t translate into contextualizing everything I do into a framing where I am constantly “mmm, does the young people who I am not targeting this to, but will probably read it anyway, because that is what teens do, will get out of this with a idea of how healthy relationships look like? Does my little fanfic that is probably not going to get more than three reviews and 50 hits is likely to make the worst a better or worst place?” because that is not escapism for me. That sound like work. And if that is my work now, I want a raise because this work sucks with people constantly assuming if I don’t treat it that way then it has no value, then it shouldn’t exist, that I am personally falling at some kind of duty when I am not doing that, that is my fault when bad things happens. But that has value to me. I wanted to do it so I did it. I planned, I write it, I edited it, I shared it. I loved that idea hard enough so throw it out there so maybe someone else can yell same hat at me because they also loved it. It’s important to me to share it so I get validation for it, exactly the same as anyone who ever publish anything on the internet. I am sorry if that happened to be some kind of teaching moment for you. I am sorry nobody before or after told you how full of bullshit my fanfic is. I am sorry that nobody sat down with you and told you this just a story some weirdo wrote on the internet, one from which you shouldn’t take moral lesson of because that weirdo wasn’t thinking about you, about anyone like you, so he didn’t prepared anything worthy for your education on what was right and what is wrong. I am sorry that nobody was there for you to teach you we are all full of shit, to give you sources on how nothing we write about works, about how this, if it was reality, it would be a horrible one. I am sorry we were all you got. But I am not sorry for putting out there and publishing it. I am not sorry for the people who I met because I did that. I am not sorry because I can talk to those people more freely that I would ever do if I thought you were around, because, believe it or not, I do not want you to be hurt. I just want to escape into my bullshit, because I have no other place to go do it, becuase I need it for my own sanity, and I want to invite you into not looking it if it causes you distress, not looking on this side in general if you are searching into someone to teach you about relationships, love and how the world works. But if you must look, becuase you have no other place to look to, then I am sorry, but that is not my responsability anymore.

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The kind of post saying “how can someone that hates and is vioent towards a character can pretend to be about safety” on the anti-anti side leave me with a weird taste on my mouth. I get the argument and I get the point, but sometimes it feels like people are weirdly overprotective of characters only in one aspect but then completely indifferent on another. You can’t say that antis are irrational because they won’t allow anyone to ship X and Y, that they are unfair for judging your personhood around your ships, to then turn around and do exactly the same when they treat characters a certain way. If we can say “you can ship this characteer with whoever you want, they are not real anyway so nobody is getting hurt”, then someone might as well want to kill, torture, kick the shit out of that same character and that should be fine. The people saying “but this character is a teenager/but they are this/but they are that!”, as if those were real people who deserve understanding and compassion, are not really helping to the cause if we are meant to accept that fiction is not the same as reality and characters should not be treated as if they were real people. If we have the right to love some characters, then people are allowed to hate them too. From a fan point of view, I get it’s not nice read about how people wish harm on your favorite character and you feel almost personally attacked because maybe you see a lot of yourself on that characters, or maybe you know someone like that character that you care about, or that character brings you comfort, or that character has played a major role on your life. Whatever this character means to you, if you are willing to argument that all ships are valid, then you have to accept all feelings regarding that character are valid too. I won’t even enter into “uh, but hate is unhealthy and is a waste of time to dedicate yourself to hate something when you could do it to something you love” because that is not the point here. At the end of the day, people are allowed to feel stuff and if one of those feelings is hatred, then let them have it.  As long they keep that hatred towards the characters, those on the fictional realm, aka not the real one, and leave real people alone, then it should be fine. Do the same thing we always recommend and block people. That is a lot better than use their exact same argument back at them, validating them and acting as if they have a real point. Which they don’t because nothing of this is real.

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Fiction-chan is walking down the street when suddenly, a gunshot was heard because someone killed another someone on the street next to them. A person comes rushing, not to the scene, but where Fiction-chan is and points at them, yelling: “YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. YOU SHOULD HAVE COME WITH SOME MORE WARNING, OR BETTER YET, NOT EXIST. BECAUSE OF YOU THAT MAN THOUGHT KILLING SOMEONE WAS OKAY. YOUR EXISTENCE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.” Everyone is staring at this person and some police comes in to tell them please, move, we are trying to reach the scene of a crime. The person looks at them with a gleeful smile. “OH, YES, YOU ARE HERE. THERE IT IS, THAT IS THE RESPONSIBLE. ARREST THEM IMMEDIATELY!” Still pointing at Fiction-chan. The police ignore them, at except one, while the rest are trying to enter the house where more gunshut are heard. The police is trying to tell this person they really need to go now, but the person is insisting they need to arrest Fiction-chan for their crimes and screams about Jaws killing sharks while being taken away for trying to assault Fiction-chan.