#proto-world

[rowansinjune]

Anyone know of any attempted reconstructions of the Proto-World language? I want some inspiration for a project I'm working and want to look at some wacky linguistic theories (phonology specifically, stranger the better)

[lingthusiasm]

Lingthusiasm Episode 45: Tracing languages back before recorded history

Language is much older than writing. But audio and visual cues from sounds and signs don’t leave physical traces the way writing does. So when linguists want to figure out how people talked before history started being recorded, we need to engage in some careful detective work, by comparing two or more similar, known languages to (potentially!) reconstruct a hypothetical common ancestor.  

In this episode, your hosts Lauren Gawne and Gretchen McCulloch get enthusiastic about these prehistoric languages that historical linguists have reconstructed, known as proto-languages. We dive into some of our favourite proto-languages (Proto-Indo-European, Proto-Algonquian, Proto-Pama-Nyungan, and Proto-Bantu), look at their characteristic grammatical signatures, and explain what we can and can’t know about the people who spoke them based on their vocabularies. 

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Proto-Indo-European homeland and surviving vocab

Proto-Indo-European lexicon

Proto-Algonquian

Algonquian Linguistic Atlas

Pama-Nyungan languages

Pama-Nyungan database

Australian Aboriginal languages

Proto-Bantu

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[adventurewithben]

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[ieatpaintchips-blog-blog]

As a side-note to my earlier post, the proto-world list is actually more interesting than Zompist would have you believe. If you only look at the starred (reconstructed) words, you'll see a very interesting sequence of:

*[m]-[l]-[velar/uvular]

The issue with this is that the vowels are entirely random. And that the Proto-languages all existed at varyingly estimated timeframes. Even if they all existed at the same time, how could they be so closely related? They're incredibly far physical distances apart. There would be no close contact between them, meaning that language drift would happen fairly quickly. Especially since these were illiterate cultures with no pressure on language preservation. You would have to assume that language actually came into existence as the parent (maybe, maybe grand-parent) of these languages. The oldest date given is possibly 7000BC, but the development of language proper is probably somewhere near 70,000 to 50,000 years old. The times done seem to add up.

Just like glottochronology. Ugh.